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More Maddening than flippers - Flipping record store owners!

MagnitudeMagnitude Posts: 392
edited December 2011 in The Porch
Ok,

Magnitude normally likes to keep it light and loves to promote partying but there are somethings that can't go unnoticed. We all know flippers kinda suck and make getting our hands on PJ vinyl a bit more difficult but my frustration is against record store owners who go on eBay, deprive their customers of buying a record all so that they can sell it for an inflated price.

In my opinion these record store owners are worse than flippers. I feel like any record store caught doing this should not be sent Pearl Jam vinyl or any limited vinyl (RSD, anyone?) because all they do is take it from their stockroom to the post office right after they have sold it on eBay. Mind you, record stores that sell on eBay usually sell at a price less than what the flippers are charging but they still usually price point around a 100% markup.

My rant is directed at a select few and is not indicative of all record shops. This rant has been inspired by Pearl Jam Twenty vinyls not being available at a record store after noticing that said record store sold 10 of them on Ebay just yesterday.

and as always POP POP!

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  • pearltenjampearltenjam Posts: 7
    Annie's Boobs!!!
  • StevieG73StevieG73 Dublin, Ireland and New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 454
    My guess is that until you pay that record store's rent, payroll, utilities, etc....they really don't care if you get a PJ20 vinyl or not. Once they pay for their stock, it's up to them to do whatever they have to in order to keep their doors open.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    whatever...many are struggling to stay in business...don't buy if you don't like the prices...
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  • bonebone Posts: 499
    Though I understand your frustration, I don't really get worked up over it.

    I love the experience of going to a store and browsing for a album to take home. These stores are having a hard time making ends meet in the current state of the industry so resorting to these activities makes it more feasible for them to stay open for us who love to browse.

    Hate the system that has created the demand rather than those trying to make ends meet by taking advantage of it.
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  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,915
    support your record store and they may be less inclined to sell on ebay. I doubt if most want to go that route, but when a lot of them struggle to pay the bills, you really can't blame them.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,692
    F Me In The Brain usually refrains from referring to himself in this manner but, Oh, what the hell!

    F Me In The Brain thinks that Poor Record Store Owner needs to do whatever Poor Record Store Owner can do to keep Poor Record Store in business so that F Me In The Brain might continue to shop there.

    :D
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  • elvistheking44elvistheking44 Posts: 4,501
    SO.....

    Flipping at a Record Store = OK
    Flipping on Ebay = Bad
    Flipping on LD Forum= Kinda Bad

    Got it.
  • MagnitudeMagnitude Posts: 392
    edited December 2011
    iOnlyownMymind wrote:
    support your record store and they may be less inclined to sell on ebay.

    The thing is I am TRYING to support them. It is frustrating to try and buy from a store that states they are sold out but clearly sold 10 copies yesterday on Ebay. While their plan to flip these records may help cover bills and other expenses it certainly doesn't earn them any customers to their store or any loyalty to their establishment.

    I know the issue is not black/white but businesses who value their customers will retain their customers better than business who don't. I don't feel like a valued customer when I'm basically told "I'd sell you this record but since you are only looking to pay retail and not double the price I'll choose the guy on Ebay."

    I'm also well versed in the argument of "If you don't like the prices don't buy or go elsewhere" however, this is not what my OP was trying to state. It was simply pointing out that record stores themselves are engaging in some of the same practices that make owning and operating a successful record store so difficult in this day and age.

    POP POP!
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,431
    They're shooting themselves in the foot, imo. Especially with that RSD stuff. The whole thing was created to make people get off their duffs and out to the record store. If they're gonna do RSD and the hard to find standard issue stuff that way, why shouldn't I just stay at home and buy off the internet.

    I've heard some record stores have had their RSD privileges stripped b/c of "flipping".
  • jshinjshin Posts: 1,759
    A record shop in my area got caught selling Record Store Day stuff on ebay this past RSD, they were banned from selling RSD exclusives and taken off the list of participating shops.
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  • LostTurntableLostTurntable Posts: 195
    Once again showing that PJ and 10C's super-ultra-limited edition policy does nothing but screw over fans.
  • NoCode416NoCode416 Posts: 417
    ofthegirl99 wrote:
    SO.....

    Flipping at a Record Store = OK
    Flipping on Ebay = Bad
    Flipping on LD Forum= Kinda Bad

    Got it.

    :thumbup:
  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    so, those guys who flipped ten copies on the bay got them from somewhere else but here, since the 10C pre order was limited edition item, only 1 per member.... and they learnt or guessed that this was a limited edition item, so they took advantage of it... we can objet the ethics of how they run their business, but they are businessmen, that's what they do for a living... and of course that kind of ethics will make them lose customers, but I can't be mad at them, it's their business, they can run it whichever way they want... I remember someone saying "... a fan can go to a different store for a better deal on a CD..."
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  • Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    F Me In The Brain wrote:
    F Me In The Brain usually refrains from referring to himself in this manner but, Oh, what the hell!

    F Me In The Brain thinks that Poor Record Store Owner needs to do whatever Poor Record Store Owner can do to keep Poor Record Store in business so that F Me In The Brain might continue to shop there.

    :D
    Thank you for posting this... People are so effected sometimes by their own voices.
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  • stickman81stickman81 Posts: 437
    boobies... :shock:
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,415
    Magnitude wrote:
    Ok,

    Magnitude normally likes to keep it light and loves to promote partying but there are somethings that can't go unnoticed. We all know flippers kinda suck and make getting our hands on PJ vinyl a bit more difficult but my frustration is against record store owners who go on eBay, deprive their customers of buying a record all so that they can sell it for an inflated price.

    In my opinion these record store owners are worse than flippers. I feel like any record store caught doing this should not be sent Pearl Jam vinyl or any limited vinyl (RSD, anyone?) because all they do is take it from their stockroom to the post office right after they have sold it on eBay. Mind you, record stores that sell on eBay usually sell at a price less than what the flippers are charging but they still usually price point around a 100% markup.

    My rant is directed at a select few and is not indicative of all record shops. This rant has been inspired by Pearl Jam Twenty vinyls not being available at a record store after noticing that said record store sold 10 of them on Ebay just yesterday.

    and as always POP POP!

    PS: Community is on tonight at 8, nbc - you should watch it! Its the funniest show on TV that you are probably not watching!

    I learned not to trust the store in Rochester (where I used to live) after I ordered Into the Wild from them. They ordered it for me, it came in, (one of the employees called me) and then when I arrived to pick it up, it had "mysteriously" disappeared.

    Apparently, the guy that ordered it for me found out from someone else that they could sell it for lots of money so they sold the copy I had ordered to someone else. :?

    I was more than a bit surprised that they could be so disreputable! In the time it took me to drive over there, they made it disappear. :twisted:
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