GOP Presidential Candidates Lambaste Obama On Israel

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited December 2011 in A Moving Train
john bolton as secretary of state??? :lol::lol::lol: oh newt, you know not what you are doing....

what is this, bizzarro world??

it is so easy to run for president. just bash the incumbant every chance you get...

these comments from these guys made me laugh...

then it made me sad that these few are the best the republicans have to offer...

Republican Jewish Coalition Forum: GOP Presidential Candidates Lambaste Obama On Israel


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 34451.html

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential hopefuls took turns lambasting President Barack Obama's policy toward Israel on Wednesday, accusing him of being timid in the face of Iran's attempt to build nuclear weapons and allowing a dangerous distance to develop between the U.S. and its long-time ally in the Middle East.

"This president, for every thug and hooligan, for every radical Islamist, he has had nothing but appeasement," said former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania in one of harshest criticisms on a day filled with them.

In speeches that resembled political auditions before Jewish activists and donors, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Rep. Michele Bachmann promised to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and Texas Gov. Rick Perry pledged he would increase military aid to Israel.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a co-front-runner in the polls with Gingrich, said that the president, by his actions, has "emboldened Palestinian hard-liners who now are poised to form a unity government with terrorist Hamas and feel they can bypass Israel at the bargaining table."

Recent controversial remarks about anti-Semitism by Howard Gutman, the U.S., ambassador to Belgium, also figured in the assault on the administration by Republicans seeking the right to oppose Obama in next year's elections.

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who was Obama's first envoy to China, suggested the remarks had been cleared in advance by the State Department or perhaps even the White House.

All of the Republicans stressed that Iran must never be permitted to gain a nuclear weapon, raising the possibility of a pre-emptive military strike to prevent it. Israel regards the prospect of a nuclear Iran as a threat to its own existence.

Any criticism of Obama drew applause from the audience, and the White House and its allies were quick to counter the allegations.

"Because they know they can't attract Jewish voters with their domestic policy, Republicans turn to Israel and attempt to make the Jewish state a partisan issue," said Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Florida Democrat who is chair of the Democratic National Committee.

She said Obama has demonstrated unwavering support for Israel, and during his presidency, U.S. military assistance has reached unprecedented levels.

Mindful of the political stakes, the White House has arranged briefings and a Hanukkah party at the White House for Jewish leaders on Thursday. Obama is expected to speak next week to a conference of the Union for Reform Judaism.

The maneuvering nearly a full year in advance of the presidential election reflects not only the importance of Jewish voters in the political base of any Democratic president, but also the traditionally outsized importance of their financial contributions for any White House hopeful of either major political party.

Jews accounted for a mere 2 percent of the electorate in 2008, and Election Day polling showed Obama drew the support of 78 percent of them. More recently polling by the Gallup organization has placed his approval among Jews at 51 percent.

Given those polling statistics, the eventual Republican presidential contender is highly unlikely to capture a majority of the Jewish vote in 2012. The party's often unspoken, more modest goal is to hold down the level of the president's support in hopes of swinging the outcome in one or more states likely to be most competitive.

Against that backdrop, there was little political percentage in holding back, and the Republicans who took a turn on Wednesday's stage didn't.

Huntsman, Obama's first envoy to China, suggested that Ambassador Gutman's comments about anti-Semitism reflected "ambiguity that the administration has toward Israel."

"I say these aren't speeches that are cooked up at local level within the embassy. They go high up within the State Department, probably within the National Security Council," he said.

In reply to a question, he said he was less concerned about demanding the ambassador's resignation, as other GOP hopefuls have done, than in finding out who had vetted the remarks.

In a speech earlier this month, Gutman identified two types of anti-Semitism, a traditional kind that he said must be combatted, and a newer strain in Europe that results from "tension, hatred and sometimes even violence between some members of Muslim communities or Arab immigrant groups and Jews ... largely born of and reflecting the tension between Israel, the Palestinian territories and neighboring Arab states in the Middle East over the continuing Israeli-Palestinian problem.

"It, too, is a serious problem. It, too, must be discussed and solutions explored," he added.

Gingrich, who has risen dramatically in public opinion polls in recent weeks, drew repeated applause when he said he would move the embassy, make Bush administration diplomat John Bolton his secretary of state and ridiculed Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and the entire State Department.

"The fact that ... Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton would talk about discrimination against women in Israel and then meets with the Saudis, ..." he said, his voice trailing off as laughter erupted in the hall.

Women have far fewer rights than men under Saudi law.

Romney said that "in his inaugural address to the United Nations, the president chastised Israel but said little about the thousands of Hamas rockets raining into its skies. He's publicly proposed that Israel adopt indefensible borders."

Obama has `insulted its prime minister, Bibi Netanyahu, and he's been timid and weak in the face of the existential threat of a nuclear Iran," added Romney. He repeated a pledge to make his first foreign trip as president to Israel.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Israel is a big boy and can kick Iran's ass all up and down the Arab penisula.
    ...
    Why do we always have to 'Protect' them... don't they have fucking nukes?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Israel is a big boy and can kick Iran's ass all up and down the Arab penisula.
    ...
    Why do we always have to 'Protect' them... don't they have fucking nukes?


    maybe they do... maybe they dont.. its a secret. :shh: ;)
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    funny thing is santorum and bachmann and perry are still hurilng zingers at obama when they have no chance of winning.

    maybe i should run for president. i would love the chance to travel, give speeches, shake hands, kiss babies, and talk a ton of shit about the sitting president about everything he has done. including how he dresses. i would LOVE that!!

    at the risk of piling on obama, i do have to say that i am angry with his policies relating to the israel/palestine conflict...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ...
    at the risk of piling on obama, i do have to say that i am angry with his policies relating to the israel/palestine conflict...


    i dont think youre alone there.

    i wonder what michelle obama thinks of the conflict? she seems like an intelligent woman. he must listen to her and take what she says with some level of gravitas. surely she can make her husband see reason. afterall thats what women do isnt it... quietly steer their men on a path of their choosing whilst allowing the men to think it was their decision? if i were her barack would have to move to camp david if he wanted to not hear my opinion, cause i wouldnt be keeping quiet...not on this issue.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ...
    at the risk of piling on obama, i do have to say that i am angry with his policies relating to the israel/palestine conflict...


    i dont think youre alone there.

    i wonder what michelle obama thinks of the conflict? she seems like an intelligent woman. he must listen to her and take what she says with some level of gravitas. surely she can make her husband see reason. afterall thats what women do isnt it... quietly steer their men on a path of their choosing whilst allowing the men to think it was their decision? if i were her barack would have to move to camp david if he wanted to not hear my opinion, cause i wouldnt be keeping quiet...not on this issue.
    you would think that she would bend his ear. especially on something of this magnitude. it is no secret that obama and many leaders in the would do not care for bibi, but they have to appease him so that he does not go to war in iran. he has a hard on for it, and if we cross him at the un or by siding with the palestinians all hell is going to break loose. i thought obama was the best chance we had to change things on the ground in gaza and in the region, but i was wrong. and based on the current crop of republicans, if any one of them wins, you can guarantee that they will go along with whatever bibi wants.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    you would think that she would bend his ear. especially on something of this magnitude. it is no secret that obama and many leaders in the would do not care for bibi, but they have to appease him so that he does not go to war in iran. he has a hard on for it, and if we cross him at the un or by siding with the palestinians all hell is going to break loose. i thought obama was the best chance we had to change things on the ground in gaza and in the region, but i was wrong. and based on the current crop of republicans, if any one of them wins, you can guarantee that they will go along with whatever bibi wants.


    they should just call his bluff. withdraw aid and redirect it to the betterment of ALL the people of israel/palestine. if he starts rattling his sabre at iran, isolate his country. and have a quiet word in his ear.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    you would think that she would bend his ear. especially on something of this magnitude. it is no secret that obama and many leaders in the would do not care for bibi, but they have to appease him so that he does not go to war in iran. he has a hard on for it, and if we cross him at the un or by siding with the palestinians all hell is going to break loose. i thought obama was the best chance we had to change things on the ground in gaza and in the region, but i was wrong. and based on the current crop of republicans, if any one of them wins, you can guarantee that they will go along with whatever bibi wants.


    they should just call his bluff. withdraw aid and redirect it to the betterment of ALL the people of israel/palestine. if he starts rattling his sabre at iran, isolate his country. and have a quiet word in his ear.
    there are too many powerful elements here that would never allow that to happen unfortunately. the rest of the world has condemned their government, but we sit on our hands, bite our tongues, and do nothing.

    i could not imagine what these clowns in the original article would do in the middle east if elected.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    there are too many powerful elements here that would never allow that to happen unfortunately. the rest of the world has condemned their government, but we sit on our hands, bite our tongues, and do nothing.

    i could not imagine what these clowns in the original article would do in the middle east if elected.

    actually the australian government supports the israeli government.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    there are too many powerful elements here that would never allow that to happen unfortunately. the rest of the world has condemned their government, but we sit on our hands, bite our tongues, and do nothing.

    i could not imagine what these clowns in the original article would do in the middle east if elected.

    actually the australian government supports the israeli government.
    from what i have read at the UN votes, australia sometimes votes in favor of the palestinians and sometimes it doesn't. it is different every few years. does it depend on who is running the aussie government at that time?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    there are too many powerful elements here that would never allow that to happen unfortunately. the rest of the world has condemned their government, but we sit on our hands, bite our tongues, and do nothing.

    i could not imagine what these clowns in the original article would do in the middle east if elected.

    actually the australian government supports the israeli government.
    from what i have read at the UN votes, australia sometimes votes in favor of the palestinians and sometimes it doesn't. it is different every few years. does it depend on who is running the aussie government at that time?


    no it doesnt make a difference who is running the country. australia re affirms its support of israel regularly.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    at the risk of piling on obama, i do have to say that i am angry with his policies relating to the israel/palestine conflict...
    That's a job for Larry David.

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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    you guys are still talking about candidates?





    the arab spring has turned into a global revolution. wake up. this occupy movement is in its infancy. it is not talking about politicians. we tried that with obama, we realized change don't come from 1...its a wave, as eddie puts it.




    this wave. occupy is going after the fundamentals of capitalism. candidates with their forked tongues....yeah fuck em. they get us nowhere. this is about going after the financial institutions that rule......thru non violent protest, the most powerful force on earth.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I tend to support those that are not into state sponsors of terror...

    Or, those who accept from sponsors of terror.

    That is why I support Israel and the Grand O P
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    I tend to support those that are not into state sponsors of terror...

    Or, those who accept from sponsors of terror.


    That is why I support Israel and the Grand O P



    :lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    I tend to support those that are not into state sponsors of terror...

    Or, those who accept from sponsors of terror.

    That is why I support Israel and the Grand O P
    shocking...

    why?

    your own damn government is a sponsor of terrorism...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    My government is in a transition, back to greatness.

    One more year....
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    My government is in a transition, back to greatness.

    One more year....
    the occupy movement is no joke man.\




    you think elections will save you? obama will probably get reelected anyway. then where will you be?>


    meanwhile the 99% are fighting teh financial institutions that run this planet.....talk about change.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    My government is in a transition, back to greatness.

    One more year....
    you didn't answer the question.

    plus, how can you support israel if you do not support sponsors of terrorism?? :? :? :?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    My government is in a transition, back to greatness.

    One more year....


    youre making me laugh usama. thanx.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Commy wrote:

    you think elections will save you? obama will probably get reelected anyway. then where will you be

    Like most all other job creators, in t-bills, cash and gold until there is a chance to have some certainty in the markets to invest...

    Btw, don't need saving
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:

    you think elections will save you? obama will probably get reelected anyway. then where will you be

    Like most all other job creators, in t-bills, cash and gold until there is a chance to have some certainty in the markets to invest...

    Btw, don't need saving
    washington's currency is backed by violence. gold, which is what ghadaffi wanted and why he was removed, would shift the economic balance of power in the world, were gold to be our currency.


    the dollar rules, only becuase they have tanks and planes to back it. it really is that simple.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Well, you got that last post right
    Sort of...other than the violence part
    Glad you are catching up

    " I will ride the wave where it takes me"
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Well, you got that last post right

    Glad you are catching up

    " I will ride the wave where it takes me"
    don't you think killing someone for a currency is wrong tho? its about power, how can you support murder to line your pockets?
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I dont
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I tend to support those that are not into state sponsors of terror...

    Or, those who accept from sponsors of terror.

    That is why I support Israel and the Grand O P

    The Israeli occupation is an act of terrorism as defined by international law.

    Also, shelling a residential neighbourhood is an act of terrorism, as is carrying out extra-judicial assassinations, shooting unarmed protestors with live rounds, demolishing homes whilst the occupants are still inside, dropping white phosphorous on civilians, using Palestinian civilians - including children - as human shields, dropping bombs on U.N safehouses, schools, and hospitals, shooting at ambulances, targeting medical staff with live rounds, and attacking unarmed Palestinian civilians with baseball bats, bricks, and teargas.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    the terrorists should stop hiding out in schools and hosptials for cover. it gets innocent people hurt and they know it.
  • the terrorists should stop hiding out in schools and hosptials for cover. it gets innocent people hurt and they know it.


    This.
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