Our President..."The English Embassy was crashed in Iran"

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  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    I live in Europe, everybody calls the United States as just 'America'.

    Oh, are you from America?

    Yes

    Which part?

    North America

    huh?

    You know, the United States

    Oh.

    This Obama thing isn't that big of a deal. An error? Yes. A huge political slipup? No.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    What does this mean?



    Should we be scared?


    Are we in danger??
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Gob wrote:
    What does this mean?

    Should we be scared???
    ...
    Just people making a monster out of a mesquito.
    Fear... makes it easier to manipulate people.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    when i first heard about this incident i thought why didnt they trash the american embassy? i know the answer now. :lol:
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    josevolution wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    At least he didn't say he would close the American Embassy in Iran, like Bachmann said.


    Yeah it's only been closed down since 1980 :lol::lol:
    :lol::lol: Gotta travel back in time to open it and close it down today.
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    Cosmo wrote:
    Sooooo...
    Is the criticism based on his use of the word 'English' in reference on the British Embassy? If it is, do people know that English and British are sort of interchangable? You know, sort of like the way 'America' and 'United States' are interchangable.
    And yes... I understand that Britian (a.k.a. The United Kingdom) consists of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland... and England is a seperate country.
    ...
    I would think that people should be more upset at those Iranians that stormed the Embassy.

    The people who would be upset by Obama's reference, and also by your comment are the Welsh, Scottish, and Northern Irish.

    To use your analogy, it would be more akin to the USA being made up of four states, with 'New York' often being used to refer to the whole. The other states would (and do) take perpetual offence.
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  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    I still wouldn't care. Seriously, just let verbal slip ups pass and live your life.
    I wish my life was so simple that I had time to be offended by every little thing out there.
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    maj4e wrote:
    I still wouldn't care. Seriously, just let verbal slip ups pass and live your life.
    I wish my life was so simple that I had time to be offended by every little thing out there.

    It's a common slip up, easily done, commonly done. I'm English, and was simply pointing out the facts - that England is one of four countries that make up the United Kingdom, or Great Britain - and that the other three countries take offense when England is used as the generic term. It has a kind of 'Colonialist' significance to them. It seems a pretty minor gaffe on Obama's part to me - although usamamasan is right - if W Bush had said this, the liberals would have dined out on it I'm sure.
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  • Smellyman
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    tremors wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    I still wouldn't care. Seriously, just let verbal slip ups pass and live your life.
    I wish my life was so simple that I had time to be offended by every little thing out there.

    It's a common slip up, easily done, commonly done. I'm English, and was simply pointing out the facts - that England is one of four countries that make up the United Kingdom, or Great Britain - and that the other three countries take offense when England is used as the generic term. It has a kind of 'Colonialist' significance to them. It seems a pretty minor gaffe on Obama's part to me - although usamamasan is right - if W Bush had said this, the liberals would have dined out on it I'm sure.

    actually Great Britain is only Scotland, Wales and England, but I forgive your slip.......
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    tremors wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    I still wouldn't care. Seriously, just let verbal slip ups pass and live your life.
    I wish my life was so simple that I had time to be offended by every little thing out there.

    It's a common slip up, easily done, commonly done. I'm English, and was simply pointing out the facts - that England is one of four countries that make up the United Kingdom, or Great Britain - and that the other three countries take offense when England is used as the generic term. It has a kind of 'Colonialist' significance to them. It seems a pretty minor gaffe on Obama's part to me - although usamamasan is right - if W Bush had said this, the liberals would have dined out on it I'm sure.

    It wasn't really directed at you my friend. It's all good. :thumbup:
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    tremors wrote:
    usamamasan is right - if W Bush had said this, the liberals would have dined out on it I'm sure.
    ;)
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    There's a big difference between George W Bush and Obama. Obama is articulate and intelligent. George W Bush is an idiot.

    Next.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,894
    Really, all this calls out is how annoying it is to have England, then Great Britain, and then also the UK with all different members.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Really, all this calls out is how annoying it is to have England, then Great Britain, and then also the UK with all different members.

    Great Britain and the U.K don't have different members. They're the same thing.

    The only difference is in regard to the British Isles, which includes the U.K - I.e, England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland - and the Irish Republic.


    Though I agree it's confusing. And many people within the British Isles take offence when someone makes a mistake with these terms as they pretty much all hate the English.
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    All of this may be right but I'm pretty sure if I call a dude from Wales a Brit, he won't be happy.
    Kindof like calling a Ukrainian a Russian (once were both Soviets...)
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    maj4e wrote:
    All of this may be right but I'm pretty sure if I call a dude from Wales a Brit, he won't be happy.
    Kindof like calling a Ukrainian a Russian (once were both Soviets...)

    Except the Welsh are Brits.

    The only people who take offence to being called Brits are the Southern Irish.
  • hostis
    hostis Posts: 441
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Except the Welsh are Brits.

    The only people who take offence to being called Brits are the Southern Irish.

    I disagree here. Welsh people will always consider themselves Welsh, first and foremost and will generally get upset if you call them British in the first instance. same for the Scots and Irish - and recently English people tend to think of themselves in nationalistic terms in the first instance as well...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,894
    Byrnzie wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Really, all this calls out is how annoying it is to have England, then Great Britain, and then also the UK with all different members.

    Great Britain and the U.K don't have different members. They're the same thing.

    The only difference is in regard to the British Isles, which includes the U.K - I.e, England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland - and the Irish Republic.


    Though I agree it's confusing. And many people within the British Isles take offence when someone makes a mistake with these terms as they pretty much all hate the English.

    I thought Northern Ireland was part of the UK but not part of Great Britain? See, it's too confusing. ;)
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