The final 12 hours of Chinese Women on Death Row

Byrnzie

http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2011/11/p ... death-row/

Photo's: The final 12 hours of Chinese women on death row


Edit: Things like this make my blood boil. Apologies for my original comments, which were a tad on the inflammatory side. I think this is an important issue, and I hope to see an end to the death penalty in America during my lifetime.

As for China, I hold out less hope. But never say never!

catefrances

to take a human life when it is avoidable,(and aside from self defense it always is) to me is the most heinous act.

MayDay Malone

Byrnzie wrote:

http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2011/11/photos-the-final-12-hours-of-chinese-women-on-death-row/

Photo's: The final 12 hours of Chinese women on death row



I repeat again, anyone who supports state sanctioned murder is human scum. If you support the clinical snuffing out of a persons life in the name of a warped and hypocritical notion of justice, then you are part of the cause of everything that is wrong with the human race.

Still not clear on this...

So if I support the death Penalty, I am "human scum, and everything wrong with the world"....

Hmmm... How do I foster reasonable debate here?

Do I say, "No- you are."
Do I say, "I know you are, but what am I?"

Just doesn't seem that you are interested in debating this topic- only insulting at every opportunity, anyone who has a different viewpoint...

BinFrog

Unfortunately it is impossible to have the death penalty in place without injustice. As we have it set up, it is possible to kill someone who was incorrectly convicted of a crime.

With DNA evidence and/or multiple eye witness accounts, I have no problem with the death penalty for extreme cases like serial killers and child killers. I'm not a "ra ra go get em" justice cowboy by any stretch of the imagination. I just don't see the need for these complete wastes of space to use up any more resources on this planet. They did not respect life and thus I do not believe they deserve life. Why should our tax dollars, and food, and time be spent on them? Even a life of hard labor and solitary confinement is not enough. 3 square meals a day, tv interviews, a bed to sleep on....why exactly?

Kill Ted Bundy? Absolutely.

But unfortunately it is impossible to have the death penantly in place and have it be 100% flawless. I wrote a paper on this exact issue in my criminal justice class in college. I am for the idea of the death penalty in extreme cases, but I am against how it is used today.

BinauralJam

24 in one day? for drug dealing? They must believe in a afterlife, so calm.

he still stands

What are you talking about, Byrnzie???

THEY GOT MCDONALDS AND PAINTED TOE NAILS!!! THAT PLACE IS LIKE A SPA!!!

brianlux

Very sad. The death penalty for dealing drugs? Disgusting.

JonnyPistachio

brianlux wrote:

Very sad. The death penalty for dealing drugs? Disgusting.

It is sickening that such a barbaric act is in place for something like this. :(

Byrnzie

MayDay Malone wrote:

Still not clear on this...

So if I support the death Penalty, I am "human scum, and everything wrong with the world"....

Hmmm... How do I foster reasonable debate here?

Do I say, "No- you are."
Do I say, "I know you are, but what am I?"

Just doesn't seem that you are interested in debating this topic- only insulting at every opportunity, anyone who has a different viewpoint...

You feel insulted?



Oh well.

Smellyman

that is sick.

I just watched a youtube video of beagles getting rescued from a research lab and I thought how sick a person must be to do that to another living being.


I guess since we have no problem killing women for drug related crimes, carelessly go to war, blow up buildings and planes etc.....I really shouldn't be surprised anymore.


but what do I know, I guess I am just a liberal pussy.

even flow - question mark

Byrnzie wrote:

http://www.ministryoftofu.com/2011/11/photos-the-final-12-hours-of-chinese-women-on-death-row/

Photo's: The final 12 hours of Chinese women on death row



I repeat again, anyone who supports state sanctioned murder is human scum. If you support the clinical snuffing out of a persons life in the name of a warped and hypocritical notion of justice, then you are part of the cause of everything that is wrong with the human race.

SINCE YOU'RE PAINTING WITH A BROAD BRUSH!

I'd rather be scum then be somebody like you who'd watch their spouse/child or anybody they loved get raped/killed/tortured, get a good look at the perps face and then go visit them in prison with flowers because you think it was just a mistake.

he still stands

even flow - question mark wrote:

SINCE YOU'RE PAINTING WITH A BROAD BRUSH!

I'd rather be scum then be somebody like you who'd watch their spouse/child or anybody they loved get raped/killed/tortured, get a good look at the perps face and then go visit them in prison with flowers because you think it was just a mistake.

Byrnzie

even flow - question mark wrote:

SINCE YOU'RE PAINTING WITH A BROAD BRUSH!

I'd rather be scum then be somebody like you who'd watch their spouse/child or anybody they loved get raped/killed/tortured, get a good look at the perps face and then go visit them in prison with flowers because you think it was just a mistake.

Except I wouldn't do any of those things.

What part of a state sponsored murder would you take part in?

pandora

MayDay Malone wrote:

Just doesn't seem that you are interested in debating this topic- only insulting at every opportunity, anyone who has a different viewpoint...

I agree totally...

why all the insults?

If we want a civilized world
act civilized and start by being kind to others and respecting different viewpoints.

This everyone deserves.

Byrnzie

pandora wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Just doesn't seem that you are interested in debating this topic- only insulting at every opportunity, anyone who has a different viewpoint...

I agree totally...

why all the insults?

If we want a civilized world
act civilized and start by being kind to others and respecting different viewpoints.

This everyone deserves.

Except he didn't offer any differing viewpoint. But never mind that. It's always easier to focus on the messenger instead of debating the message.

pandora

Byrnzie wrote:

pandora wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Just doesn't seem that you are interested in debating this topic- only insulting at every opportunity, anyone who has a different viewpoint...

I agree totally...

why all the insults?

If we want a civilized world
act civilized and start by being kind to others and respecting different viewpoints.

This everyone deserves.

Except he didn't offer any differing viewpoint. But never mind that. It's always easier to focus on the messenger instead of debating the message.

you had a great point, great moving article, it would be a great debate

but you insult and make it personal

that is not debate

that insures you have only like minds around you which is also not debate

Smellyman

It is his opinion you are human scum if you support state sponsored murder.

I happen to agree.

Like he said, debate it if you disagree.



If you support state sanctioned murder than you are not a good person.....better?

Byrnzie

pandora wrote:

it would be a great debate

but you insult and make it personal

Who did I insult?

Somebody else on this message board said that gay people made him sick and you went out of your way to defend him and his comments. Why was that?

Byrnzie

MayDay Malone wrote:

Hmmm... How do I foster reasonable debate here?

Maybe you can just accuse me of anti-Semitism and ask me if I'm a holocaust denier again?

Or just say 'Woot!' and post a silly photo?

MayDay Malone

Byrnzie wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Hmmm... How do I foster reasonable debate here?

Maybe you can just accuse me of anti-Semitism and ask me if I'm a holocaust denier again?

Or just say 'Woot!' and post a silly photo?

I did not post that photo, Byrnzie. If you read the threads instead of just targeting me personally at every opportunity, you would have seen that I was quoting what had already been posted.

To prove my point, I have NEVER been able to post a picture on this site BECAUSE I DON"T KNOW HOW.

And to add to what Pandora said, what exactly are we debating here?

It has been suggested that this thread is NOT about the death penalty, but rather to "debate" whether anyone who supports the death penalty is "human scum".


Well, that's just not a debate that I'm intersted in.... good luck, tho.

Byrnzie

MayDay Malone wrote:

I did not post that photo, Byrnzie. If you read the threads instead of just targeting me personally at every opportunity, you would have seen that I was quoting what had already been posted.

To prove my point, I have NEVER been able to post a picture on this site BECAUSE I DON"T KNOW HOW.

And to add to what Pandora said, what exactly are we debating here?

It has been suggested that this thread is NOT about the death penalty, but rather to "debate" whether anyone who supports the death penalty is "human scum".


Well, that's just not a debate that I'm intersted in.... good luck, tho.

I expressed how I feel about the issue with reference to the article I linked.

If someone takes issue with that then they can explain their position, and a debate can begin. Or they can just talk about me instead, as you've chosen to do.