JFK Set Up Like A Duck, Bush A Filthy Fuck. Makes Me Sick

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited October 2013 in A Moving Train
Was looking at my youtube channel and it had a video on JFK recommended to me, Newly Discovered Footage of JFK's Final Moments which I clicked on just to see what was up.

I'll be honest, I actually dismissed this as of no consequence, and of value only to Kennedy and Jackie O nuts. But then I started rewinding and paying close attention to what it was actually showing. The comments sealed the deal.

Watch this video.
Then go watch the actual Zapruder footage (with sprockets).

First verify to yourself that the "newly discovered footage" is in fact from the same day -- Jackie is in the same pink dress and hat, check. Texas Govenor, John Connelly, and his wife Nellie are in the front seat, check. Okay? This IS assassination day.

But notice something else?
Seconds 14-17
FIVE ... count them ... FIVE police motorcycles are in FRONT of the presidential limo.
Second 16
we see TWO police motorcycles on the left (screen right) side of the vehicle, and what looks like...
yup ...
Second 25
... there it is ... TWO MORE police motorcycles DIRECTLY to the right side of the vehicle.
You can see they are roughly aligned to the back right quarter panel of the vehicle.

AND?
AND?
AND?

Second 20-22
A SECRET SERVICE AGENT ON THE REAR AGENT-HANDLE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL LIMO.

Now go back and look at the zapruder film.
All five motorcycles that were in front have just vanished in thin air.
There are still 2 on either side of the vehicle
(one on the vehicle's right side is barely visible at the outside of the frame, lower left corner of screen)
but all four of these pull back almost immediately around the hairpin turn by the school book depository,
the two on the left side of the vehicle you see between seconds 2 and 5 go from the back door of the vehicle to the back door of the vehicle BEHIND the president ...

AND.
AND...
AND?

The Secret Service agent who not too long ago was on the rear agent handle of the presidential limo?
GONE. just GONE.
At second 14-15 you see one finally (after how many shots?) run and jump from the trailing SS car and land on the trunk of Kennedy's limo to be assisted by Jackie (who is often claimed to be reaching for bits of skull, but who in reality is trying to help the SS agent in to the vehicle).

Hmm.
:(

Here is video of Secret Service allegedly being called off from the vehicle ... in which you can actually see there were MULTIPLE agents walking BESIDE the car. One of them is so miffed he throws his hands in the air repeatedly, allegedly in protest.

Watch this film (watch the whole damn series, it is PHENOMENAL) ...
Evidence of Revision, Part One - AT THE ELEVEN MINUTE MARK

You think the media is controlled NOW? Watch this shit at minute 11 -- starting in earnest at minute 12 and 4 seconds ... "A PAUSE..." titled under screen. This is a JFK press conference that is getting ready to start, the day of the assassination. WHY IS THE NEWS ANCHOR CLEARLY READING FROM A SCRIPT regarding the Assassination Attempt on McKinnely? WHY? -- PLANTING THE SEED IN THE PUBLIC MIND. :(

Now.
You need to know (and i'm sure on this board i will have little problem with this "theory") that the entire Bush family is fucked-in-the-face. Bush Sr. has been allegedly involved in the JFK assassination by MULTIPLE persons at this point, and for good reason.

Want the deets?
JFK II - The Bush Connection
is pretty compelling ... but his new movie, which is sort of a remix\rehash with more info (some of which just came out recently) is even better ... Dark Legacy.

Want to read some FUCKED UP SHIT in book form?
Check out Russ Baker's still relatively new book, Family of Secrets which makes a VERY PRESSING CASE for Bush's DIRECT involvement. Did you know Bush was IN DALLAS the night before? Did you know he called the FBI AFTER the assassination to rat out a fellow RNC volunteer as a possible suspect? Why? Plausible deniability.

WHAT THE FUCK MOMENT BELOW
NOW WATCH THIS:
BUSH SMILES AS HE SAYS "A DELUDED GUNMAN" ... SHIT EATING GRIN ... "ASSASSINATED PRESIDENT KENNEDY"
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[edit: VIDEO REPLACED 7/29/12 ORIGINAL VIDEO ACCOUNT WAS **DELETED** HMMMM]

God that got my blood hot.

RIP LHO
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  • I took some time to read Family of Secrets a year or two ago and just wanted to chime in with saying it is a really good read.
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    I had seen that footage before, but never really paid much attention to those points. That is nuts.
  • I took some time to read Family of Secrets a year or two ago and just wanted to chime in with saying it is a really good read.

    a REALLY good read.

    The points concerning Bush's whereabouts the day before, his flight plan (the inferences regarding the information in Barbara's book on this subject), and the confirmation of his speech at an oil dinner on the 21st

    along with the information on George de Mohrenschildt -- particularly his letter to Bush seeking help -- and his death ...

    ... alone make the book WELL worth the price of admission.

    That's not even getting in to all the information on the Bay of Pigs era CIA shennanigans, De Mohrenschildt's involvement there within, and lots of particulars that make it clear to anyone with half a brain that Bush was involved with ALL of it, going WAY back.
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Interesting Mr Drifting, I'm going to look at this in more detail tnight for sure.
  • Idris wrote:
    Interesting Mr Drifting, I'm going to look at this in more detail tnight for sure.
    i am too. thanks for sharing drifting.
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  • glad to see peeps keepin' their minds open these days.

    Good on ya!

    I know it sounds wild & whacky,
    but TRUST me,
    the more you look in to it,
    the more disturbingly plausible GWHB's involvement becomes.
    In fact, at a certain point, it almost becomes hard to believe he WASN'T involved.

    One more for the fire,
    there is this memo, written by Hoover, titled, "Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, November 22, 1963"
    Hoover - Bush Memo

    While the memo title is "sort of" misleading, given that the actual topic of the letter more concerns the sentiments of both Pro and Anti Castro groups in the "Miami area" regarding JFKs death, than anything directly assassination related, the real bomb shell is the bottom portion, "THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FORGOING WAS ORALLY FURNISHED BY ***MR GEORGE BUSH OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY***".

    Bush VEHEMENTLY denies any involvement with the CIA prior to his "random" appointment by Ford as the DIRECTOR of the CIA in 1976 (???weird, right???) ... but this memo would seem to contradict this in the most serious manner.

    At the time that this memo became public, I believe Bush was president, and the official response from his staff was that this "must have been ANOTHER George Bush".

    Hmm.

    See the film DARK LEGACY for more on this memo, and possible implications thereof.

    Fishy fishy shit.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • glad to see peeps keepin' their minds open these days.

    Good on ya!

    I know it sounds wild & whacky,
    but TRUST me,
    the more you look in to it,
    the more disturbingly plausible GWHB's involvement becomes.
    In fact, at a certain point, it almost becomes hard to believe he WASN'T involved.

    One more for the fire,
    there is this memo, written by Hoover, titled, "Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, November 22, 1963"
    Hoover - Bush Memo

    While the memo title is "sort of" misleading, given that the actual topic of the letter more concerns the sentiments of both Pro and Anti Castro groups in the "Miami area" regarding JFKs death, than anything directly assassination related, the real bomb shell is the bottom portion, "THE SUBSTANCE OF THE FORGOING WAS ORALLY FURNISHED BY ***MR GEORGE BUSH OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY***".

    Bush VEHEMENTLY denies any involvement with the CIA prior to his "random" appointment by Ford as the DIRECTOR of the CIA in 1976 (???weird, right???) ... but this memo would seem to contradict this in the most serious manner.

    At the time that this memo became public, I believe Bush was president, and the official response from his staff was that this "must have been ANOTHER George Bush".

    Hmm.

    See the film DARK LEGACY for more on this memo, and possible implications thereof.

    Fishy fishy shit.

    If I remember correctly, Family of Secrets, goes into the other "George Bush" a bit and it turns out that there really was another George Bush, but that he was more of a temp./janitorial role and would not be in a position to speak on topics such as what you just posted. His existence being a convenient use for muddling up what really transpired. Do you remember this?
  • If I remember correctly, Family of Secrets, goes into the other "George Bush" a bit and it turns out that there really was another George Bush, but that he was more of a temp./janitorial role and would not be in a position to speak on topics such as what you just posted. His existence being a convenient use for muddling up what really transpired. Do you remember this?

    Yes. Absolutely.
    Of COURSE there was another George Bush.
    Shit, they probably hired the guy specifically for that reason - deniability.
    He was a "low level analyst", by all accounts. A veritable paper monkey.
    AND HERE IS THE KICKER ... ***THAT*** GEORGE "WILLIAM" BUSH ...
    SWORE IN A SIGNED AFFIDAVIT THAT IT WAS NOT HIM THE MEMO REFERRED TO:
    I have carefully reviewed the FBI memorandum to the Director, Bureau of Intelligence and Research, Department of State dated November 29, 1963 which mentions a Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency. ... I do not recognize the contents of the memorandum as information furnished to me orally or otherwise during the time I was at the CIA. In fact, during my time at the CIA, I did not receive any oral communications from any government agency of any nature whatsoever. I did not receive any information relating to the Kennedy assassination during my time at the CIA from the FBI. Based on the above, it is my conclusion that I am not the Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency referred to in the memorandum.

    You might find interest in this entire wikipedia page on Zapata Oil:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapata_Corporation
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Shit, they probably hired the guy specifically for that reason - deniability.

    WOW.
    I never caught this part before:
    "worked [...] at the CIA in Virginia from September 1963 to February 1964, with a low rank of GS-5.

    Wait wait wait.
    So the guy was hired, THE MONTH KENNEDY WAS SHOT,
    and was on staff for a whopping ... err ... math math math math ... uh ... FIVE months?
    Geez.
    Yeah, no. HE wasn't hired for his name.
    Pffft.
    :roll: :roll: :roll:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • c'mon everybody knows JFK colluded with the mafia to plan his own assassination. JFK told Sam Giancana that the hit was actually on Gov. Connelly, who allegedly planned to secede from the union. In reality, JFK was being tormented by the ghost of Marilyn Monroe, which told him the only way for them to be together was for him to die. But since suicide is a sin, JFK had to make it appear as though he would be an innocent victim. In reality, Marilyn herself committed suicide and the only way for her to escape Hell was to claim another soul for Satan.




    :twisted:



    http://www.amazon.com/Alternate-Kennedy ... 253&sr=8-1
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  • arthurdent wrote:
    c'mon everybody knows JFK colluded with the mafia to plan his own assassination. JFK told Sam Giancana that the hit was actually on Gov. Connelly, who allegedly planned to secede from the union. In reality, JFK was being tormented by the ghost of Marilyn Monroe, which told him the only way for them to be together was for him to die. But since suicide is a sin, JFK had to make it appear as though he would be an innocent victim. In reality, Marilyn herself committed suicide and the only way for her to escape Hell was to claim another soul for Satan.




    :twisted:



    http://www.amazon.com/Alternate-Kennedy ... 253&sr=8-1

    lol.
    On another note...
    I hate Bill O'Reilly (i mean, who doesn't?) ... he is a class A piece of shit,
    but he USED to do some solid reporting:
    O'Reilly on JFK, Maurice Bishop\David Atlee Phillips, Antonio Veciana, and De Mohrenschildt's relationship with Oswald

    Good stuff.
    REALLY good stuff, actually.
    I LOVE how Veciana is like FUCK YOU, I'M DONE TALKING. I DON'T WANT TO GET SHOT IN THE FACE, AGAIN.
    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • lol.
    On another note...
    I hate Bill O'Reilly (i mean, who doesn't?) ... he is a class A piece of shit,
    but he USED to do some solid reporting:

    was that pre- or post loofah? Was he still working for Inside Edition? Yeah, that's really credible reporting.

    Did you see where his new Lincoln book has been banned from Fords Theatre for being completely full of shit?
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  • bumped at Brianlux's request.
    :D (non-gun thread. lol. well, SORT of)
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  • Will check out the book recommended.

    This incident is, without question, a crime of the highest order.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    edited January 2013
    Will check out the book recommended.

    This incident is, without question, a crime of the highest order.

    Book is worth its weight in gold and makes Bush Sr. out to be one of the biggest lying sacks of shit in modern history. Make no mistake about it, he WAS in Dallas the day Kennedy was murdered. The book has proof positive he was there the day and well in to the night before on "business". He just "claims" he left that night. And then called day of the assassination "from home" (BUT SAYS HE IS ***ON HIS WAY TO DALLAS THAT DAY***) to report one of his Republican Party worker chums as a suspect himself. Can you say PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY?
    Bush Calls FBI To Report Assassination Suspect
    [BTW, the guy he reports as a possible assassination suspect in '63 ends up WORKING FOR HIM ON A CAMPAIGN IN THE 80's ... hmmmm]
    Post edited by DriftingByTheStorm on
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  • bump to remember to check this stuff out
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  • Alex Jones is the perennial king of internet conspiracy mongering. He has views on innumerable events. Even those he knows little about. The Kennedy assassination is but one subject he knows little about. For instance, Jones has endorsed the very suspicious Barr McClellan and his book of "faction" Blood, Money and Power. He has also chosen to endorse a video on the Kennedy case. This is called JFK 2: The Bush Connection. The original – which can still be found online – is a low-budget, poorly produced production by a self-proclaimed 30, 40 or 50 year researcher named John Hankey. Hankey has cobbled together footage from Oliver Stone's film JFK, the series The Men Who Killed Kennedy, the PBS program Nova, and other productions. The latest version – Dark Legacy – is more slickly done and has some newer information in it. But since the original has been around much longer and is available online, I will concentrate my critique on that.

    Hankey has rehashed his product a number of times. JFK 2 seems to have been re-edited at least 3, and possibly as many as 4 times. This is the version I have utilized in my review.

    http://www.ctka.net/2010/hanky.html

    As Seamus Coogan noted in his deconstruction of John Hankey's deleterious and delirious quasi-documentary JFK 2, Hankey has since gotten some advice and pro bono work from Hollywood. This resulted in a more professional version of the film. The title of the redo is Dark Legacy.

    This time around, at least the presentation is smoother and slicker. Some of the music has been improved. There are more modern graphics and effects, like fades and dissolves. The overall effect is to make the film easier on the eyes. And a little easier on the ear. (At times, Hankey still puts in his old acoustical folk song.)

    And someone prevailed upon Hankey to remove three of the worst howlers in the film. First, the immortally camp scenario of George Bush going into J. Edgar Hoover's office with two Cuban thugs and threatening him with a flechette gun is gone. Second, the phony dialogue put in the mouth of Bill Colby about knowing George Bush and Howard Hunt were involved in the assassination in Dallas is also gone. Another egregious error about Kennedy letting the Russians search for Cuban training camps in the USA after the Missile Crisis is removed.

    Hankey has also added a new opening that focuses on the attributes of Kennedy's presidency. He notes here the Steel Crisis, his civil rights program, his disarmament pledge, among others.

    But, still, even after the technical improvements and the surgery on some of the worst segments of the first version(s), it's surprising how many errors were left intact. In other words, after all those years it was out, Seamus Coogan was the only person who took the time and effort to go after the film with a fine toothcomb. Which, of course, speaks well for CTKA, and poorly for the rest of the research community. Are we the only people doing fact checking? It appears that way. Which, of course, doesn't say much for the so-called JFK research community.

    http://www.ctka.net/2010/hanky_update.html

    Do you guys all sit around with your little tin foil hats when you watch this crap :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,052
    bumped at Brianlux's request.
    :D (non-gun thread. lol. well, SORT of)

    :D :thumbup:

    Actually, Drifting, this is mind boggling stuff and well worth checking out!
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    edited January 2013
    Alex Jones is the perennial king of internet conspiracy mongering. [... blah blah blah ...]

    Do you guys all sit around with your little tin foil hats when you watch this crap :lol:

    Why don't you watch this 9minute video instead?
    Russ Baker Speaking on Bush's FBI Memo, etc
    Post edited by DriftingByTheStorm on
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  • i don't know if anyone here knows who Bertrand Russell is, but he certainly isn't someone you would call a 'crackpot' or a 'conspiracy theorist'. But, here you have it. This is just meant to show that if someone of the highly regarded philosophic stature of Bertrand Russell can question the official story, then why can't we?

    16 Questions on the Assassination
    By Bertrand Russell
    The Minority of One, 6 September 1964, pp. 6-8.

    The official version of the assassination of President Kennedy has been so riddled with contradictions that it is been abandoned and rewritten no less than three times. Blatant fabrications have received very widespread coverage by the mass media, but denials of these same lies have gone unpublished. Photographs, evidence and affidavits have been doctored out of recognition. Some of the most important aspects of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald have been completely blacked out. Meanwhile, the F.B.I., the police and the Secret Service have tried to silence key witnesses or instruct them what evidence to give. Others involved have disappeared or died in extraordinary circumstances.
    It is facts such as these that demand attention, and which the Warren Commission should have regarded as vital. Although I am writing before the publication of the Warren Commission’s report, leaks to the press have made much of its contents predictable. Because of the high office of its members and the fact of its establishment by President Johnson, the Commission has been widely regarded as a body of holy men appointed to pronounce the truth. An impartial examination of the composition and conduct of the Commission suggests quite otherwise.
    The Warren Commission has been utterly unrepresentative of the American people. It consisted of two Democrats, Senator Russell of Georgia and Congressman Boggs of Louisiana, both of whose racist views have brought shame on the United States; two Republicans, Senator Cooper of Kentucky and Congressman Gerald R. Ford of Michigan, the latter of whom is a leader of his local Goldwater movement and an associate of the F.B.I.; Allen Dulles, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Mr. McCloy, who has been referred to as the spokesman for the business community. Leadership of the filibuster in the Senate against the Civil Rights Bill prevented Senator Russell from attending hearings during the period. The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, Earl Warren, who rightly commands respect, was finally persuaded, much against his will, to preside over the Commission, and it was his involvement above all else that helped lend the Commission an aura of legality and authority. Yet many of its members were also members of those very groups which have done so much to distort and suppress the facts about the assassination. Because of their connection with the Government, not one member would have been permitted under U.S. law to serve on a jury had Oswald faced trial. It is small wonder that the Chief Justice himself remarked that the release of some of the Commission’s information “might not be in your lifetime” Here, then, is my first question: Why were all the members of the Warren Commission closely connected with the U.S. Government?
    If the composition of the Commission was suspect, its conduct confirmed one’s worst fears. No counsel was permitted to act for Oswald, so that cross-examination was barred. Later, under pressure, the Commission appointed the President of the American Bar Association, Walter Craig, one of the supporters of the Goldwater movement in Arizona, to represent Oswald. To my knowledge, he did not attend hearings, but satisfied himself with representation by observers.
    In the name of national security, the Commission’s hearings were held in secret, thereby continuing the policy which has marked the entire course of the case. This prompts my second question: If, as we are told, Oswald was the lone assassin, where is the issue of national security? Indeed, precisely the same question must be put here as was posed in France during the Dreyfus case: If the Government is so certain of its case, why has it conducted all its inquiries in the strictest secrecy?

    ************

    At the outset the Commission appointed six panels through which it would conduct its enquiry. They considered: (1) What did Oswald do on November 22, 1963? (2) What was Oswald’s background? (3) What did Oswald do in the U.S. Marine Corps, and in the Soviet Union? (4) How did Ruby kill Oswald? (5) What is Ruby’s background? (6) What efforts were taken to protect the President on November 22? This raises my fourth question: Why did the Warren Commission not establish a panel to deal with the question of who killed President Kennedy?
    All the evidence given to the Commission has been classified “Top Secret,” including even a request that hearings be held in public. Despite this the Commission itself leaked much of the evidence to the press, though only if the evidence tended to prove Oswald the lone assassin. Thus, Chief Justice Warren held a press conference after Oswald’s wife, Marina, had testified. He said, that she believed her husband was the assassin. Before Oswald’s brother Robert testified, he gained the Commission’s agreement not to comment on what he said. After he had testified for two days, the newspapers were full of stories that “a member of the Commission” had told the press that Robert Oswald had just testified that he believed that his brother was an agent of the Soviet Union. Robert Oswald was outraged by this, and he said that he could not remain silent while lies were told about his testimony. He had never said this and he had never believed it. All that he had told the Commission was that he believed his brother was innocent and was in no way involved in the assassination.
    The methods adopted by the Commission have indeed been deplorable, but it is important to challenge the entire role of the Warren Commission. It stated that it would not conduct its own investigation, but rely instead on the existing governmental agencies—the F.B.I., the Secret Service and the Dallas police. Confidence in the Warren Commission thus presupposes confidence in these three institutions. Why have so many liberals abandoned their own responsibility to a Commission whose circumstances they refuse to examine?
    It is known that the strictest and most elaborate security precautions ever taken for a President of the United States were ordered for November 22 in Dallas. The city had a reputation for violence and was the home of some of the most extreme right-wing fanatics in America. Mr. and Mrs. Lyndon Johnson had been assailed there in 1960 when he was a candidate for the Vice-Presidency. Adlai Stevenson had been physically attacked when he spoke in the city only a month before Kennedy’s visit. On the morning of November 22, the Dallas Morning News carried a full-page advertisement associating the President with Communism. The city was covered with posters showing the President’s picture and headed “Wanted for Treason.” The Dallas list of subversives comprised 23 names, of which Oswald’s was the first. All of them were followed that day, except Oswald. Why did the authorities follow many persons as potential assassins and fail to observe Oswald’s entry into the book depository building while allegedly carrying a rifle over three feet long?
    The President’s route for his drive through Dallas was widely known and was printed in the Dallas Morning News on November 22. At the last minute the Secret Service changed a small part of their plans so that the President left Main Street and turned into Houston and Elm Streets. This alteration took the President past the book depository building from which it is alleged that Oswald shot him. How Oswald is supposed to have known of this change has never been explained. Why was the President’s route changed at the last minute to take him past Oswald’s place of work?
    After the assassination and Oswald’s arrest, judgment was pronounced swiftly: Oswald was the assassin, and he had acted alone. No attempt was made to arrest others, no road blocks were set up round the area, and every piece of evidence which tended to incriminate Oswald was announced to the press by the Dallas District Attorney, Mr. Wade. In such a way millions of people were prejudiced against Oswald before there was any opportunity for him to be brought to trial. The first theory announced by the authorities was that the President’s car was in Houston Street, approaching the book depository building, when Oswald opened fire. When available photographs and eyewitnesses had shown this to be quite untrue, the theory was abandoned and a new one formulated which placed the vehicle in its correct position. Meanwhile, however, D.A. Wade had announced that three days after Oswald’s room in Dallas had been searched, a map had been found there on which the book depository building had been circled and dotted lines drawn from the building to a vehicle on Houston Street, showing the alleged bullet trajectory had been planned in advance. After the first theory was proved false, the Associated Press put out the following story on November 27: “Dallas authorities announced today that there never was a map.”
    The second theory correctly placed the President’s car on Elm Street, 50 to 75 yards past the book depository, but had to contend with the difficulty that the President was shot from the front, in the throat. How did Oswald manage to shoot the President in the front from behind? The F.B.I. held a series of background briefing sessions for Life magazine, which in its issue of December 6 explained that the President had turned completely round just at the time he was shot. This too, was soon shown to be entirely false. It was denied by several witnesses and films, and the previous issue of Life itself had shown the President looking forward as he was hit. Theory number two was abandoned.
    In order to retain the basis of all official thinking, that Oswald was the lone assassin, it now became necessary to construct a third theory with the medical evidence altered to fit it. For the first month no Secret Service agent had ever spoken to the three doctors who had tried to save Kennedy’s life in the Parkland Memorial Hospital. Now two agents spent three hours with the doctors and persuaded them that they were all misinformed: the entrance wound in the President’s throat had been an exit wound, and the bullet had not ranged down towards the lungs. Asked by the press how they could have been so mistaken, Dr. McClelland advanced two reasons: they had not seen the autopsy report—and they had not known that Oswald was behind the President! The autopsy report, they had been told by the Secret Service, showed that Kennedy had been shot from behind. The agents, however, had refused to show the report to the doctors, who were entirely dependent on the word of the Secret Service for this suggestion. The doctors made it clear that they were not permitted to discuss the case. The third theory, with the medical evidence rewritten, remains the basis of the case against Oswald at this moment. Why has the medical evidence concerning the President’s death been altered out of recognition?

    ***************

    Although Oswald is alleged to have shot the President from behind, there are many witnesses who are confident that the shots came from the front. Among them are two reporters from the Forth Worth Star Telegram, four from the Dallas Morning News, and two people who were standing in front of the book depository building itself, the director of the book depository and the vice-president of the firm. It appears that only two people immediately entered the building: the director, Mr. Roy S. Truly, and a Dallas police officer, Seymour Weitzman. Both thought that the shots had come from in front of the President’s vehicle. On first running in that direction, Weitzman was informed by “someone” that he thought the shots had come from the building, so he rushed back there. Truly entered with him in order to assist with his knowledge of the building. Mr. Jesse Curry, the Chief of Police in Dallas, has stated that he was immediately convinced that the shots came from the building. If anyone else believes this, he has been reluctant to say so to date. It is also known that the first bulletin to go out on Dallas police radios stated that “the shots came from a triple overpass in front of the presidential automobile.” In addition, there is the consideration that after the first shot the vehicle was brought almost to a halt by the trained Secret Service driver, an unlikely response if the shots had indeed come from behind. Certainly Mr. Roy Kellerman, who was in charge of the Secret Service operation in Dallas that day, and travelled in the presidential car, looked to the front as the shots were fired. The Secret Service has had all the evidence removed from the car, so it is no longer possible to examine it. What is the evidence to substantiate the allegation that the President was shot from behind?
    Photographs taken at the scene of the crime could be most helpful. One young lady standing just to the left of the presidential car as the shots were fired took photographs of the vehicle just before and during the shooting, and was thus able to get into her picture the entire front of the book depository building. Two F.B.I. agents immediately took the film which she took. Why has the F.B.I. refused to publish what could be the most reliable piece of evidence in the whole case?
    In this connection it is noteworthy also that it is impossible to obtain the originals of photographs bearing upon the case. When Time magazine published a photograph of Oswald’s arrest—the only one ever seen—the entire background was blacked out for reasons which have never been explained. It is difficult to recall an occasion for so much falsification of photographs as has happened in the Oswald case.
    The affidavit by Police Office Weitzman, who entered the book depository building, stated that he found the alleged murder rifle on the sixth floor. (It was first announced that the rifle had been found on the fifth floor, but this was soon altered.) It was a German 7.65 mm. Mauser. Late the following day, the F.B.I. issued its first proclamation. Oswald had purchased in March 1963 an Italian 6.5 mm. Mannlicher-Carcano. D.A. Wade immediately altered the nationality and size of the weapon to conform to the F.B.I. statement.
    Several photographs have been published of the alleged murder weapon. On February 21, Life magazine carried on its cover a picture of “Lee Oswald with the weapons he used to kill President Kennedy and Officer Tippitt [sic].” On page 80, Life explained that the photograph was taken during March or April of 1963. According to the F.B.I., Oswald purchased his pistol in September 1963. The New York Times carried a picture of the alleged murder weapon being taken by police into the Dallas police station. The rifle is quite different. Experts have stated that no rifle resembling the one in the Life picture has even been manufactured. The New York Times also carried the same photograph as Life, but left out the telescopic sights. On March 2, Newsweek used the same photograph but painted in an entirely new rifle. Then on April 13 the Latin American edition of Life carried the same picture on its cover as the U.S. edition had on February 21, but in the same issue on page 18 it had the same picture with the rifle altered. How is it that millions of people have been misled by complete forgeries in the press?
    The authorities interrogated Oswald for nearly 48 hours without allowing him to contact a lawyer, despite his repeated requests to do so. The director of the F.B.I. in Dallas was a man with considerable experience. American Civil Liberties Union lawyers were in Dallas requesting to see Oswald and were not allowed to do so. By interrogating Oswald for 48 hours without access to lawyers, the F.B.I. created conditions which made a trial of Oswald more difficult. A confession or evidence obtained from a man held 48 hours in custody is likely to be inadmissible in a U.S. court of law. The F.B.I. director conducted his interrogation in a manner which made the use of material secured in such a fashion worthless to him. This raises the question of whether he expected the trial to take place.
    Another falsehood concerning the shooting was a story circulated by the Associated Press on November 23 from Los Angeles. This reported Oswald’s former superior officer in the Marine Corps as saying that Oswald was a crack shot and a hot-head. The story was published widely. Three hours later AP sent out a correction deleting the entire story from Los Angeles. The officer had checked his records and it had turned out that he was talking about another man. He had never known Oswald. To my knowledge the correction has yet to be published by a single major publication.
    The Dallas police took a paraffin test on Oswald’s face and hands to try to establish that he had fired a weapon on November 22. The Chief of the Dallas Police, Jesse Curry, announced on November 23 that the result of the test “proves Oswald is the assassin.” The Director of the F.B.I. in the Dallas-Fort Worth area in charge of the investigation stated: “I have seen the paraffin test. The paraffin test proves that Oswald had nitrates and gunpowder on his hands and face. It proves he fired a rifle on November 22.” Not only does this unreliable test not prove any such thing, it was later discovered that the test on Oswald’s face was in fact negative, suggesting that it was unlikely he fired a rifle that day. Why was the result of the paraffin test altered before being announced by the authorities?

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    Oswald, it will be recalled, was originally arrested and charged with the murder of Patrolman Tippitt [sic]. Tippitt was killed at 1:06 p.m. on November 22 by a man who first engaged him in conversation, then caused him to get out of the stationary police car in which he was sitting and shot him with a pistol Miss Helen L. Markham, who states that she is the sole eye-witness to this crime, gave the Dallas police a description of the assailant. After signing her affidavit, she was instructed by the F.B.I., the Secret Service and many police officers that she was not permitted to discuss the case with anyone. The affidavit’s only description of the killer was that he was a “young white man.” Miss Markham later revealed that the killer had run right up to her and past her, brandishing the pistol, and she repeated the description of the murderer which she had given to the police. He was, she said, “short, a little heavy, and had somewhat bushy hair.” (The police description of Oswald was that he was of average height, or a little taller, was slim and had receding fair hair.) Miss Markham’s affidavit is the entire case against Oswald for the murder of Patrolman Tippitt, yet District Attorney Wade asserted: “We have more evidence to prove Oswald killed Tippit than we have to show he killed the President.” The case against Oswald for the murder of Tippitt, he continued, was an absolutely strong case. Why was the only description of Tippitt’s killer deliberately omitted by the police from the affidavit of the sole eye-witness?
    Oswald’s description was broadcast by the Dallas police only 12 minutes after the President was shot. This raises one of the most extraordinary questions ever posed in a murder case: Why was Oswald’s description in connection with the murder of Patrolman Tippitt broadcast over Dallas police radio at 12:43 p.m. on November 22, when Tippitt was not shot until 1:06 p.m.?
    According to Mr. Bob Considine, writing in the New York Journal American, there had been another person who had heard the shots that were fired at Tippitt. Warren Reynolds had heard shooting in the street from a nearby room and had rushed to the window to see the murderer run off. Reynolds himself was later shot through the head by a rifleman. A man was arrested for this crime but produced an alibi. His girl-friend, Betty Mooney McDonald, told the police she had been with him at the time Reynolds was shot, according to Mr. Considine. The Dallas police immediately dropped the charges, even before Reynolds had time to recover consciousness, and attempt to identify his assailant. The man at once disappeared, and two days later the police arrested Betty Mooney McDonald on a minor charge and it was announced that she had hanged herself in the police cell. She had been a striptease artist in Jack Ruby’s nightclub, according to Mr. Considine.
    Another witness to receive extraordinary treatment in the Oswald case was his wife, Marina. She was taken to the jail while her husband was still alive and shown a rifle by Chief of Police Jesse Curry. Asked if it were Oswald’s, she replied that she believed Oswald had a rifle but that it didn’t look like that. She and her mother-in-law were in great danger following the assassination because of the threat of public revenge on them. At this time they were unable to obtain a single police officer to protect them. Immediately after Oswald was killed, however, the Secret service illegally held both women against their will. After three days they were separated and Marina has never again been accessible to the public. Held in custody for nine weeks and questioned almost daily by the F.B.I. and Secret Service, she finally testified to the Warren Commission and, according to Earl Warren, said that she believed her husband was the assassin. The Chief Justice added that the next day they intended to show Mrs. Oswald the murder weapon and the Commission was fairly confident that she would identify it as her husband’s. The following day it was announced that this had indeed happened. Mrs. Oswald, we are informed, is still in the custody of the Secret Service. To isolate a witness for nine weeks and to subject her to repeated questioning by the Secret Service in this manner is reminiscent of police behavior in other countries, where it is called brainwashing. The only witness produced to show that Oswald carried a rifle before the assassination stated that he saw a brown paper parcel about two feet long in the back seat of Oswald’s car. The rifle which the police “produced” was almost 3½ feet long. How was it possible for Earl Warren to forecast that Marina Oswald’s evidence would be exactly the reverse of what she had previously testified?
    After Ruby had killed Oswald, D.A. Wade made a statement about Oswald’s movements following the assassination. He explained that Oswald had taken a bus, but he described the point at which Oswald had entered the vehicle as seven blocks away from the point located by the bus driver in his affidavit. Oswald, Wade continued, then took a taxi driven by a Daryll Click, who had signed an affidavit. An inquiry at the City Transportation Company revealed that no such taxi driver had ever existed in Dallas. Presented with this evidence, Wade altered the driver’s name to William Whaley. The driver’s log book showed that a man answering Oswald’s description had been picked up at 12:30. The President was shot at 12:31. D.A. Wade made no mention of this. Wade has been D.A. in Dallas for 14 years and before that was an F.B.I. agent. How does a District Attorney of Wade’s great experience account for all the extraordinary changes in evidence and testimony which he has announced during the Oswald case?
    These are only a few of the questions raised by the official versions of the assassination and by the way in which the entire case against Oswald has been conducted. Sixteen questions are no substitute for a full examination of all the factors in this case, but I hope that they indicate the importance of such an investigation. I am indebted to Mr. Mark Lane, the New York criminal lawyer who was appointed counsel for Oswald by his mother, for much of the information in this article. Mr. Lane’s enquiries, which are continuing, deserve widespread support. A Citizen’s Committee of Inquiry has been established in New York, at Room 422, 156 Fifth Avenue, New York. N.Y. (telephone YU9-6850) for such a purpose, and comparable committees are being set up in Europe.
    In Britain, I invited people eminent in the intellectual life of the country to join a “Who Killed Kennedy Committee,” which at the moment of writing consists of the following people: Mr. John Arden, playwright; Mrs. Carolyn Wedgwood Benn, from Cincinnati, wife of Anthony Wedgwood Benn, M.P.; Lord Boyd-Orr, former director-general of the U.N. Food and Agricultural Organization and a Nobel Peace Prize winner; Mr. John Calder, publisher; Professor William Empsom, Professor of English Literature at Sheffield University; Mr. Victor Golancz, publisher; Mr. Michael Foot, Member of Parliament; Mr. Kingsley Martin, former editor of the New Statesman; Sir Compton Mackenzie, writer; Mr. J.B. Priestley, playwright and author; Sir Herbert Read, art critic; Mr. Tony Richardson, film director; Dr. Mervyn Stockwood, Bishop of Southwark; Professor Hugh Trevor-Roper, Regius Professor of Modern History at Oxford University; Mr. Kenneth Tynan, Literary Manager of the National Theatre; and myself.
    We view the problem with the utmost seriousness. U.S. Embassies have long ago reported to Washington world-wide disbelief in the official charges against Oswald, but this has scarcely been reflected by the American press. No U.S. television program or mass circulation newspaper has challenged the permanent basis of all the allegations—that Oswald was the assassin, and that he acted alone. It is a task which is left to the American people.
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Also.
    Bush's Shit Eating Grin Video Again ... now listen to the end, where he starts preaching the gospel about Gerald Ford, and how he would never lie, and how great a man he was, and what he says goes ...

    Now, I bring you... The Ford Effect ...

    Kennedy Document Edited By Gerald Ford -- Ford's personal handwritting changes "A bullet had entered his back" to "A bullet had entered the back OF HIS NECK". And he CROSSES OUT "SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE SHOULDER"

    This means NOTHING to someone who has done NO homework on the Kennedy assassination, and particularly Single Video .. err ... "Single Bullet Theory" ... but to someone who HAS ... it MEANS EVERYTHING.

    It is PROOF POSITIVE that Ford is ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN A CONSPIRACY TO COVERUP the true nature of the Kennedy Assassination.

    You see, if the bullet had entered Kennedy's back (and it DID), coming from a 6th story window above ... there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that said bullet could EXIT THROUGH HIS NECK
    neck.jpg

    You see.
    The Warren Commission NEEDED FORD'S ALTERATION TO ACHIEVE THIS:
    JFK_neck_cross-section.jpg
    But that simply didn't occur.

    See?
    NECK??? OR *****SHOULDER***** ???? (see the bullet hole in the BACK? not the neck???)
    Shirt.jpg

    NECK? Or SHOULDER???
    back2.jpg

    Official Autopsy Report. NECK? OR SHOULDER ????
    Face_sheet.jpg

    Ford said:
    "My changes were only an attempt to be more precise."

    MORE PRECISE?

    OR MORE OF A COVER UP?

    And Pappy Bush is singing his praise.
    Yup.

    Jack Ruby's Own Admission - "People In Very High Places" ... and yet we choose our own fairytales instead.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,796
    Thanks for bumping this. I've read a ton of books on the shooting since high school. Looking forward to diving into this.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • jesus.
    just found this.
    I know Russ Baker's book cites this source, and mentions that Bush WAS IN DALLAS THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ASSASSINATION ... but HERE IT IS ... from Kitty Kelly's book, The Family.
    morningnews.jpg
    source page found at.

    And then the next day, almost exactly an hour after JFK's murder,
    i0DZs.jpg

    So he showed up in Dalas THE DAY BEFORE HE WAS SHOT, gave a speech THAT NIGHT, ALLEGEDLY left Dallas the day kennedy was shot, CALLED THE FBI with some bullshit rat out, THEN SAID HE WAS GOING BACK TO DALLAS TO THE SAME HOTEL HE HAD JUST LEFT THE DAY BEFORE ????

    ????
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Some amazing coincidences about the 2 assassinated American presidents Lincoln and Kennedy

    President Abraham Lincoln elected to Congress in 1846
    President J F Kennedy elected to Congress in 1946
    ..............
    President Abraham Lincoln elected President in 1860
    President Kennedy elected President in 1960
    ......................
    The names Lincoln and Kennedy both contain 7 letters
    Both were involved with civil rights
    Both lost wives while living at the White House
    Both were shot on a Friday
    Both were shot in the head
    ......................
    Lincoln’s secretary had the name Kennedy
    Kennedy’s secretary had the name Lincoln
    ...................
    Both were assassinated by southerners
    Both were succeeded by southerners
    .................................
    Both were succeeded by a president named Johnson
    Andrew Johnson was born in 1808
    Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908
    ........................................
    John Wilkes Booth who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839
    Lee Harvey Oswald who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939
    ..........................................
    Both assassins were known by their full 3 names
    Both assassins have names of 15 letters
    ...................................
    Lincoln was shot at the theatre called Ford (Ford Theatre)
    Kennedy was shot in a car called Lincoln made by Ford (Ford Lincoln convertible)
    ....................................
    John Wilkes Booth ran from a theatre and was caught in a warehouse
    Lee Harvey Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theatre
    ...................................
    Both were assassinated before their trials.
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Some amazing coincidences about the 2 assassinated American presidents Lincoln and Kennedy

    President Abraham Lincoln elected to Congress in 1846
    President J F Kennedy elected to Congress in 1946
    ..............
    President Abraham Lincoln elected President in 1860
    President Kennedy elected President in 1960
    ......................
    The names Lincoln and Kennedy both contain 7 letters
    Both were involved with civil rights
    Both lost wives while living at the White House
    Both were shot on a Friday
    Both were shot in the head
    ......................
    Lincoln’s secretary had the name Kennedy
    Kennedy’s secretary had the name Lincoln
    ...................
    Both were assassinated by southerners
    Both were succeeded by southerners
    .................................
    Both were succeeded by a president named Johnson
    Andrew Johnson was born in 1808
    Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908
    ........................................
    John Wilkes Booth who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839
    Lee Harvey Oswald who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939
    ..........................................
    Both assassins were known by their full 3 names
    Both assassins have names of 15 letters
    ...................................
    Lincoln was shot at the theatre called Ford (Ford Theatre)
    Kennedy was shot in a car called Lincoln made by Ford (Ford Lincoln convertible)
    ....................................
    John Wilkes Booth ran from a theatre and was caught in a warehouse
    Lee Harvey Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theatre
    ...................................
    Both were assassinated before their trials.

    Yeah this list is older than the interweb, and not entirely correct. http://www.snopes.com/history/american/lincoln-kennedy.asp You left out the modern add-on...a month before Lincoln was shot he was in Monroe Marilyn, two weeks before JFK was shot he was in Marilyn Monroe.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Some amazing coincidences about the 2 assassinated American presidents Lincoln and Kennedy

    President Abraham Lincoln elected to Congress in 1846
    President J F Kennedy elected to Congress in 1946
    ..............
    President Abraham Lincoln elected President in 1860
    President Kennedy elected President in 1960
    ......................
    The names Lincoln and Kennedy both contain 7 letters
    Both were involved with civil rights
    Both lost wives while living at the White House
    Both were shot on a Friday
    Both were shot in the head
    ......................
    Lincoln’s secretary had the name Kennedy
    Kennedy’s secretary had the name Lincoln
    ...................
    Both were assassinated by southerners
    Both were succeeded by southerners
    .................................
    Both were succeeded by a president named Johnson
    Andrew Johnson was born in 1808
    Lyndon Johnson was born in 1908
    ........................................
    John Wilkes Booth who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839
    Lee Harvey Oswald who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939
    ..........................................
    Both assassins were known by their full 3 names
    Both assassins have names of 15 letters
    ...................................
    Lincoln was shot at the theatre called Ford (Ford Theatre)
    Kennedy was shot in a car called Lincoln made by Ford (Ford Lincoln convertible)
    ....................................
    John Wilkes Booth ran from a theatre and was caught in a warehouse
    Lee Harvey Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theatre
    ...................................
    Both were assassinated before their trials.

    Oh shit, I haven't seen this since I was in high school byrnzie! Forgot all about the similarities. Damn, that shits crazy.
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