UPDATED!!! Americans favor Tea Party far more than Occupy WS

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  • We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Your Welcome May Day, i hope i can change your mind about somethings.
  • Your Welcome May Day, i hope i can change your mind about somethings.

    Likewise, friend. But I might be too old to learn new tricks. ;)
  • do you know what that pic is??? that is the 84 year old woman who was pepper sprayed at occupy seattle last night. it is nothing to joke about.

    a. what did she do to deserve it?

    b. she should get a job, and quit whining.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.
    i did not sign an informed consent form to be in your "study" and am considering my options.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    do you know what that pic is??? that is the 84 year old woman who was pepper sprayed at occupy seattle last night. it is nothing to joke about.

    a. what did she do to deserve it?

    b. she should get a job, and quit whining.
    she is 84 years old. too old to do most jobs. she loves her country and believe that it can be better. otherwise why would she be out there?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.
    i did not sign an informed consent form to be in your "study" and am considering my options.


    Gimme, you were born to be studied.... science would lose volumes if you withdrew.. :mrgreen:
  • do you know what that pic is??? that is the 84 year old woman who was pepper sprayed at occupy seattle last night. it is nothing to joke about.

    a. what did she do to deserve it?

    b. she should get a job, and quit whining.
    she is 84 years old. too old to do most jobs. she loves her country and believe that it can be better. otherwise why would she be out there?


    Because she has millionaire parents like the others?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Gimme, you were born to be studied.... science would lose volumes if you withdrew.. :mrgreen:
    :roll:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gimme, you were born to be studied.... science would lose volumes if you withdrew.. :mrgreen:
    :roll:

    Its a joke Gimme.... c'mon, man....
  • I proudly say that I have posted in some really "out there" posts on AMT in my time...but this one might be near the top.

    "She should get a job and quit whining"

    Wow
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.

    I don't think yours is a very good study either.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.


    does the study you are doing include deliberately attempting to rile up people on one side of the political spectrum with baiting and inflammatory posts?

    either way, I would suggest using more than observation of a single thread but rather multiple posts on similar threads by the same poster. That would probably give you a better description and would definitely strengthen your argument in my eyes.
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  • _ wrote:
    We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.

    I don't think yours is a very good study either.

    Wait for the results.... wait for it... wait for it....
  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    edited November 2011
    it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...
    Post edited by MayDay Malone on
  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    edited November 2011
    it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...
    Post edited by MayDay Malone on
  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    edited November 2011
    it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...


    No, it helps actually. This isn't a gov't funded study.

    Sorry bout the 3x post- accident.
    Post edited by MayDay Malone on
  • it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...


    Not data. We just copy n paste collections of threads and quotes, share what we've read and found about different topics on different sites, and compare.

    Makes for great debate...
  • mikepegg44 wrote:
    We've been enjoying the responses to this thread, and it is interesting to see the results of this little experiment:

    The thread was posted in response to another just like it, from a poll about a week earlier, when public sentiment favored the OWS movement more than the Tea Party. Since that time, the numbers have flip-flopped, and although the poll still finds that the majority of Americans dislike BOTH groups, "many of you are still shooting the messenger", so to speak.

    Consider this:

    -The poll was conducted by a Democrat organization w/ an accurate record in regards to polling.
    -The numbers are very similar to the previous poll that found Americans favored OWS (and that poll was cheered and accepted, the source never questioned.) See the thread.

    Yet, here in this thread, when the results are not to the liking of the Train People, they immediately start questioning the accuracy of this poll- AND ALL polls in general. We begin to see posts asking if anyone has ever been polled- the chorus of the Train clamoring that polls in general, are ALL inaccurate. Fascinating!

    Add to it, the usual tearing down of the source- which happens quite often here- and is generally good practice-although some sources like NYTimes, HuffPo, DailyKos, and Wikipedia, seem to be wholely unquestioned here. What was suprising here is that this poll was reported by a wide variety of news sources- including Yahoo and others- they didn't conduct the poll- yet the poll is not to be believed b/c the Wash Examiner also reported it. Again- fasinating.



    Finally, the "WE" is a small focus group of politically diverse people, who in the course of a study on Conservatism and Liberalism, have been reading and gleaming what we can about the thought processes of said individuals, from various chat rooms and websites and comment pages. As a PJ fan, I enjoy the Porch a lil more that the Train, but I suggested to the group that the Train be one of the sites that we study, b/c of the, uh, "diversity" of ideas found here. (Plus, its a great excuse to read the other PJ related forums in the meantime.)

    So far, it's been enlightening... Thanks.


    does the study you are doing include deliberately attempting to rile up people on one side of the political spectrum with baiting and inflammatory posts?

    either way, I would suggest using more than observation of a single thread but rather multiple posts on similar threads by the same poster. That would probably give you a better description and would definitely strengthen your argument in my eyes.

    Your eyes are all I care about Mike...

    thanks.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...


    Not data. We just copy n paste collections of threads and quotes, share what we've read and found about different topics on different sites, and compare.

    Makes for great debate...
    i have consulted my attorney.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • it is not a very valid study when one person allegedly collecting data is on here stirring the pot...


    Not data. We just copy n paste collections of threads and quotes, share what we've read and found about different topics on different sites, and compare.

    Makes for great debate...
    i have consulted my attorney.

    seriously?
    you're posting on a public forum.
    are you claiming rights to the information you have posted publicly?
    ???
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    seriously?
    you're posting on a public forum.
    are you claiming rights to the information you have posted publicly?
    ???
    this is like being recorded without consent. i suggest the mods look into what mr malone is doing by deliberately provoking and baiting people and then taking and reporting their responses without people's consent.

    what is the board policy on this???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • :lol:

    Pretty sure Gimme was joking....

    But then again....
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    :lol:

    Pretty sure Gimme was joking....

    But then again....
    i am dead serious.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • It's a public forum. You can't control who reads your posts. Even if he is sharing these posts with other people (which I don't believe he is--in my opinion, it's just another post made to get a reaction from people), there's no legal recourse to be had because you're the one who posted in a public forum. It's no different from standing on a street corner shouting your opinions. You'd have no legal recourse if someone decided to start filming you and showed his friends.

    Now, the posts he's made may or may not violate the board rules. That's up to the mods to determine. I'd suggest you report any posts of his you feel violate the rules of this forum if you want them to look into it.
    seriously?
    you're posting on a public forum.
    are you claiming rights to the information you have posted publicly?
    ???
    this is like being recorded without consent. i suggest the mods look into what mr malone is doing by deliberately provoking and baiting people and then taking and reporting their responses without people's consent.

    what is the board policy on this???
  • this is like being recorded without consent.

    Unless you are in your own home, and baring the use of said recording for monetary gain, you HAVE NO RIGHT to NOT be recorded with out consent.

    In fact, the person recording you HAS THE RIGHT TO RECORD YOU, if you are in a public space.
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    seriously?
    you're posting on a public forum.
    are you claiming rights to the information you have posted publicly?
    ???
    this is like being recorded without consent. i suggest the mods look into what mr malone is doing by deliberately provoking and baiting people and then taking and reporting their responses without people's consent.

    what is the board policy on this???


    this is a public forum ... in some states it is legal to record without consent as long as one party is aware/consents to it.
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  • My thread has been derailed and is off topic.

    I am reporting it.....


    I am dead serious.









    :lol:
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