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LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
edited December 2011 in All Encompassing Trip
Brandon Marshall or Brandon Lloyd or Julio Jones? for either 1 of 2 spots (1 is flex)

And for that flex... the second of those 2 WR's or Chris Johnson?

Ugh... all good plays. Sometimes makes the decision much harder.
-Chris
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  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    At the moment i have Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Lloyd as my 2 WR, with Marshall and Jones on the bench, and CJ is in my flex....

    I have Cedric Benson on the bench playing the Steelers, so i ruled him out.
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    2011 St. Louis (EV)
    2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
    2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    sit lloyd and CJ...i hate sitting the rb but until CJ does something 2 weeks in a row you must sit your number 1 pick..
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  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    jones is getting much love due to roddy white getting all the CB attention. he is a must start every game
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  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    i am starting mccoy and greene at rb beanie at flex and roddy white and jordy nelson at wr


    i got victor cruz and brandon lloyd sitting. also donald brown and Ogbanya as starters who are sitting

    i like cruz over nelson except its a 4 oclock game and unsure if nicks will play...
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  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    sit lloyd and CJ...i hate sitting the rb but until CJ does something 2 weeks in a row you must sit your number 1 pick..

    So you're saying play Marshall and Jones? Hmmmm

    Marshall did have a huge game for me last week when i opted to put him in.
    -Chris
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    2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
    2011 St. Louis (EV)
    2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
    2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    i am starting mccoy and greene at rb beanie at flex and roddy white and jordy nelson at wr


    i got victor cruz and brandon lloyd sitting. also donald brown and Ogbanya as starters who are sitting

    i like cruz over nelson except its a 4 oclock game and unsure if nicks will play...


    I like this, and i believe Cruz is 100% hit or miss. I picked him up after his 2 monster games and he did nothing in 2 weeks that i started him. Eli still has Manningham to throw to right? And he's hitting his TE too.
    -Chris
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    1998 Brisbane 2
    2003 Brisbane 1
    2006 LA 1 & 2
    2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
    2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
    2011 St. Louis (EV)
    2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
    2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    cruz has been a good bye week pickup for me and mannignham has been injured a bit as well but he is very hit or miss.

    on your hand you have a "problem" of having too many good wr's. wr's can have 30 point games and 3 point games depending on many variables. playing the odds i'd say play jones and marshall for sure. either way its not a terrible move so long as CJ rides the pine.


    oh and desean is sitting if that affects any other teams you got...wow
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  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    Antonio Brown or Santonio Holmes?

    Eli or Cam Newton?
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    marshall for sure. i believe grossman will add more points to the skins game with a bigger arm, so the dolphins will have to throw more and mop up points still count in fantasy...
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  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    Antonio Brown or Santonio Holmes?

    Eli or Cam Newton?


    only sit newton for AAron rodgers. i would start brown over holmes, even though holmes has more talent - brown has a better qb and that is more important 95% of the time
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  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    Antonio Brown or Santonio Holmes?

    Eli or Cam Newton?


    only sit newton for AAron rodgers. i would start brown over holmes, even though holmes has more talent - brown has a better qb and that is more important 95% of the time

    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.
  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    Antonio Brown or Santonio Holmes?

    Eli or Cam Newton?


    only sit newton for AAron rodgers. i would start brown over holmes, even though holmes has more talent - brown has a better qb and that is more important 95% of the time

    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.

    I would keep Cam, and build around him. While AP is solid, he's also a feature back, and recent history shows that feature backs just don't have a long time at the top these days. He has to be coming to an end of his dominance, and his production i'm sure will begin to drop off as early as maybe next season. Build around Cam, he's young, big, strong and can throw the shit out of the ball.
    -Chris
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    I'm on Facebook - facebook.com/christopher.leesye1

    1998 Brisbane 2
    2003 Brisbane 1
    2006 LA 1 & 2
    2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
    2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
    2011 St. Louis (EV)
    2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
    2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
  • LeatherMosquitoManLeatherMosquitoMan Posts: 4,034
    Also, you have the Jets playing the Pats, who are allowing all kinds of points lately, and Brown is playing Cincy, who are very solid this year.

    Going by that, you would start Holmes, but like jethro said, Brown has a better QB... tough decision
    -Chris
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    1998 Brisbane 2
    2003 Brisbane 1
    2006 LA 1 & 2
    2008 LA 2, San Diego 1 (EV)
    2009 LA 1, 2, 3 & 4, San Diego
    2011 St. Louis (EV)
    2012 Tulsa 1 & 2 (EV)
    2013 Chicago, Dallas & OKC
  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:
    Also, you have the Jets playing the Pats, who are allowing all kinds of points lately, and Brown is playing Cincy, who are very solid this year.

    Going by that, you would start Holmes, but like jethro said, Brown has a better QB... tough decision

    I am leaning towards Holmes because of the bad pass defense that he is facing and because it sounds like high winds may impact the passing in the Steelers game.
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    Antonio Brown or Santonio Holmes?

    Eli or Cam Newton?


    only sit newton for AAron rodgers. i would start brown over holmes, even though holmes has more talent - brown has a better qb and that is more important 95% of the time

    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.

    it depends on if you feel like the payout to win this year trumps next years payout. for this year to win i would absolutly pick up AP for Cam having eli as a backup. there is many qbs you can hit or miss with, but very few AP's. if there is no prize for this year or you're too far away to make a legitimate run at the prize than hang on to cam and spend the money in the RB core high next year and pick up AP.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...
  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:


    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.

    I would keep Cam, and build around him. While AP is solid, he's also a feature back, and recent history shows that feature backs just don't have a long time at the top these days. He has to be coming to an end of his dominance, and his production i'm sure will begin to drop off as early as maybe next season. Build around Cam, he's young, big, strong and can throw the shit out of the ball.[/quote][/quote]

    I am in a "bet the farm to win now" or "keep a base for the future" situation. If I trade for AP, I would lose Cam for next year but would have a strong team - Eli, AP, Ray Rice, MJD, Welker, Boldin and Holmes. I would have a good shot to win it all this year but my team would be starting from scratch in 2012.
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...
    maclin and jones are must starts, and if you have desean bench him he is out, even a waiver wire pick will be better...but lloyd is better than all (more than likely at least) waiver additions..
    8/29/00*5/2/03*7/2/03*7/3/03*7/11/03*9/28/04*5/24/06*6/28/08*5/15/10*5/17/10* 10/16/13*10/25/13* 4/28/16*4/28/16*8/5/16*8/7/16 EV 6/15/11 Brad 10/27/02
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...
    maclin and jones are must starts, and if you have desean bench him he is out, even a waiver wire pick will be better...but lloyd is better than all (more than likely at least) waiver additions..

    actually i did end up benching lloyd ... forgot i had jordy nelson ... really, it's just about him not getting into the endzone ...
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:


    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.

    I would keep Cam, and build around him. While AP is solid, he's also a feature back, and recent history shows that feature backs just don't have a long time at the top these days. He has to be coming to an end of his dominance, and his production i'm sure will begin to drop off as early as maybe next season. Build around Cam, he's young, big, strong and can throw the shit out of the ball.
    [/quote]

    I am in a "bet the farm to win now" or "keep a base for the future" situation. If I trade for AP, I would lose Cam for next year but would have a strong team - Eli, AP, Ray Rice, MJD, Welker, Boldin and Holmes. I would have a good shot to win it all this year but my team would be starting from scratch in 2012.[/quote]


    I would win now if you can. injuries and such can and will kill a next year, and you cant base a QB's performance of this year towards next year see also vick freeman and eli.

    Ap has at least 2 or 3 more years left of being a number 3 or better overall pick. if you think you can win now then win now. you can pick up a decent QB on the cheap next year same way you got Cam this year.
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  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...
    maclin and jones are must starts, and if you have desean bench him he is out, even a waiver wire pick will be better...but lloyd is better than all (more than likely at least) waiver additions..

    Totally agree. Jones is a must start. Maclin will get more looks with Jackson out. Lloyd is likely better than anyone on the wire (unless you are in a really small league)
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    polaris_x wrote:
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...
    maclin and jones are must starts, and if you have desean bench him he is out, even a waiver wire pick will be better...but lloyd is better than all (more than likely at least) waiver additions..

    actually i did end up benching lloyd ... forgot i had jordy nelson ... really, it's just about him not getting into the endzone ...



    good move nelson will get 15 points easy on monday, lloyd will get either 15 or 3 today...
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    good move nelson will get 15 points easy on monday, lloyd will get either 15 or 3 today...

    you guys don't think jones hamstring is gonna be a problem today?
  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    LeatherMosquitoMan wrote:


    Thanks.

    I am afraid that the bubble will burst on Cam and he will start playing like a rookie at some point.

    I am in a keeper-auction league and have Cam at a very low price (I would keep him for 2012). Would you trade Cam for Adrian Peterson to help win this year? I would need to play Eli the rest of the way but AP would be a great addition. AP's salary is high and I would not be able to keep him for 2012.

    I would keep Cam, and build around him. While AP is solid, he's also a feature back, and recent history shows that feature backs just don't have a long time at the top these days. He has to be coming to an end of his dominance, and his production i'm sure will begin to drop off as early as maybe next season. Build around Cam, he's young, big, strong and can throw the shit out of the ball.

    I am in a "bet the farm to win now" or "keep a base for the future" situation. If I trade for AP, I would lose Cam for next year but would have a strong team - Eli, AP, Ray Rice, MJD, Welker, Boldin and Holmes. I would have a good shot to win it all this year but my team would be starting from scratch in 2012.[/quote]


    I would win now if you can. injuries and such can and will kill a next year, and you cant base a QB's performance of this year towards next year see also vick freeman and eli.

    Ap has at least 2 or 3 more years left of being a number 3 or better overall pick. if you think you can win now then win now. you can pick up a decent QB on the cheap next year same way you got Cam this year.[/quote]

    If I win this week, I will probably make the Cam for AP deal to try and win it all this year.

    I may also be able to swap Antonio Brown (also cheap on my roster) for AP.

    The real decision comes when the other guy wants Cam AND Antonio Brown for AP. Then I would really be betting the farm on this year. Not sure if I would make that deal.
  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,328
    polaris_x wrote:
    jethrojam420 wrote:
    good move nelson will get 15 points easy on monday, lloyd will get either 15 or 3 today...

    you guys don't think jones hamstring is gonna be a problem today?

    His hamstring did not seem like a problem last week so unless there has been a setback, he should be fine.
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    could be a problem. can only hope its not. injuries are part of the risk, but so long as roddy white is in, i would play julio jones. his value only goes down if white goes down.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    His hamstring did not seem like a problem last week so unless there has been a setback, he should be fine.

    well ... he didn't practice much is all ...

    thanks jethrojam420!
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    n pick up a decent QB on the cheap next year same way you got Cam this year.[/quote]

    If I win this week, I will probably make the Cam for AP deal to try and win it all this year.

    I may also be able to swap Antonio Brown (also cheap on my roster) for AP.

    The real decision comes when the other guy wants Cam AND Antonio Brown for AP. Then I would really be betting the farm on this year. Not sure if I would make that deal.[/quote]


    do not trade 2 for 1 on any player ever. at this point in the season either go for this year or next, but dont kill yourself just for starters, a good backup is hard to find as well
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  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    polaris_x wrote:
    PJ-Cubs wrote:
    His hamstring did not seem like a problem last week so unless there has been a setback, he should be fine.

    well ... he didn't practice much is all ...

    thanks jethrojam420!


    PRACTICE???!!!???


    never fret practice for a deep threat. practice is neccessary more for a qb rb and linesman...

    jones needs to go straight and hang on to the damn ball if thrown to him ;)
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    polaris_x wrote:
    i want to sit lloyd as he's just not getting into the endzone ... but yahoo says desean jackson may be inactive for todays game so i'm playing him ... along with maclin and julio jones as my wideouts ...


    hahaha ... i knew this would happen ... lloyd gets a td ...
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