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lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
edited November 2011 in A Moving Train
BP gets OK to dump mercury into Lake Michigan

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industrie ... cury_N.htm
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,431
    edited November 2011
    Urgh! This really is disgusting. Bad news for one of our wonder great lakes.
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  • iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    Those jerks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFSM_lkk22Q
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    They make the best fuel.
    I refill my car with their Ultimate fuel which is 98 octane and cleans/protects your engine.
    Also great power and mileage. 8-)
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,431
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    They make the best fuel.
    I refill my car with their Ultimate fuel which is 98 octane and cleans/protects your engine.
    Also great power and mileage. 8-)
    As good as burning my credit card for fuel in a Thrasher?
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux wrote:
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    They make the best fuel.
    I refill my car with their Ultimate fuel which is 98 octane and cleans/protects your engine.
    Also great power and mileage. 8-)
    As good as burning my credit card for fuel in a Thrasher?

    No idea.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • stardust1976stardust1976 Posts: 1,301
    Thoughts_Arrive wrote:
    They make the best fuel.
    I refill my car with their Ultimate fuel which is 98 octane and cleans/protects your engine.
    Also great power and mileage. 8-)


    BP suck. Making good fuel does not give them a free pass to wreck the environment. Our home is worth more than any car.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    this is obama for you.....you would think he would have learned when bp dumped hundreds of tons of oil out into the gulf and he was about to be impeached for doing nothing....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,245
    I'm amazed that state reg would trump a federal reg. I guess because theres still time before its fully enforced?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    just another example of why the occupy movement should be supported ..
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,245
    polaris_x wrote:
    just another example of why the occupy movement should be supported ..
    Whats your take on a State allowing this.
    Seeing how its a shared body of water, its in your guys interest too.
    I also wonder what the reaction is to this from the other states that border lake mich.

    I just know that when its airborne theres a complete freak out about it , but in a body of water the damage is supposed to be negligible?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Whats your take on a State allowing this.
    Seeing how its a shared body of water, its in your guys interest too.
    I also wonder what the reaction is to this from the other states that border lake mich.

    I just know that when its airborne theres a complete freak out about it , but in a body of water the damage is supposed to be negligible?

    my take is that this is consistent with a corporatized form of gov't ... where the interests of the corporations supersede those of the people ...

    the reaction will be a cursory objection that will result in court filings that make a bunch of laywers rich while ultimately nothing gets done ...

    we've been shitting in our water bodies everywhere ... it's part of the overall problem ... people wonder why cancer rates and pretty much all illnesses are up ... well ... like most environmental issues - it may not be directly related to this but its part of it ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Whats your take on a State allowing this.
    Seeing how its a shared body of water, its in your guys interest too.
    I also wonder what the reaction is to this from the other states that border lake mich.

    I just know that when its airborne theres a complete freak out about it , but in a body of water the damage is supposed to be negligible?

    my take is that this is consistent with a corporatized form of gov't ... where the interests of the corporations supersede those of the people ...

    the reaction will be a cursory objection that will result in court filings that make a bunch of laywers rich while ultimately nothing gets done ...

    we've been shitting in our water bodies everywhere ... it's part of the overall problem ... people wonder why cancer rates and pretty much all illnesses are up ... well ... like most environmental issues - it may not be directly related to this but its part of it ...

    what I want to know is what is the solution?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    what I want to know is what is the solution?

    one word: REVOLUTION

    although the movement is disjointed and unorganized and there are many factions at play ... the premise of it is what is critical ...

    the game is rigged and we the people are getting screwed ...
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    Its bad whatever year it is but this article is from 2007.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Doesn't matter to me what year it is...it's bad that it is being done...and is still happening.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,193
    The recommendation is that you should only eat one fish per month out of the Great Lakes because of the mercury. I one up it and make it zero per month.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Agree...I don't eat fish out of the great lakes...
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Go Beavers wrote:
    The recommendation is that you should only eat one fish per month out of the Great Lakes because of the mercury. I one up it and make it zero per month.

    fuck ... is that true!?? ... i like my lake huron whitefish and ontario rainbow trout ... :(
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Go Beavers wrote:
    The recommendation is that you should only eat one fish per month out of the Great Lakes because of the mercury. I one up it and make it zero per month.
    As someone who fishes the great lakes, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE! Especially during salmon runs, where it is most imperative that you stay home. Tell all your neighbors and friends!

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,431
    Seems to me I'd once heard that some of the Great Lakes nearly died. It's a shame we're not doing more to clean them up rather than further pollute them. Do we have to wait 'till they burn like the Cuyahoga?
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    The recommendation is that you should only eat one fish per month out of the Great Lakes because of the mercury. I one up it and make it zero per month.

    fuck ... is that true!?? ... i like my lake huron whitefish and ontario rainbow trout ... :(

    I have heard that before, don't know how true it is.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I have heard that before, don't know how true it is.

    damm ... although when i think about it ... i don't eat that much of it ... here's hoping that smoking the fish somehow lowers the mercury content ... :?
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    brianlux wrote:
    Seems to me I'd once heard that some of the Great Lakes nearly died. It's a shame we're not doing more to clean them up rather than further pollute them. Do we have to wait 'till they burn like the Cuyahoga?


    Possibly...the problem is far to many people believe the government have their best interest at heart...I long ago have given up believing the government is looking out for us. As I see it.

    People can change though...I have, I didn't necessarily believe in the cause of climate change was people until I started reading the links that polaris and others posted and also used common sense...7 billion people on the planet with many using resource's recklessly is having an impact...no doubt in my mind.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I have heard that before, don't know how true it is.

    damm ... although when i think about it ... i don't eat that much of it ... here's hoping that smoking the fish somehow lowers the mercury content ... :?

    I don't eat much fish myself...mostly halibut if I do. I beginning to wonder about meat period...however I usually don't eat meat more than once a week.

    I wonder if their is organic fish? people who raise fish in a controlled environment? I don't even know if that is legal in Canada? Might be worth looking into?
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I don't eat much fish myself...mostly halibut if I do. I beginning to wonder about meat period...however I usually don't eat meat more than once a week.

    I wonder if their is organic fish? people who raise fish in a controlled environment? I don't even know if that is legal in Canada? Might be worth looking into?

    yeah ... there are tons of fish farms ... mostly talapia and trout ...

    with fish you have to concern yourself with toxins and sustainability ... strictly on the health bit - i think the general rule is the bigger the fish, the less you can eat of it ... halibut being a huge fish would have a high concentration of mercury ...
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    polaris_x wrote:
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I don't eat much fish myself...mostly halibut if I do. I beginning to wonder about meat period...however I usually don't eat meat more than once a week.

    I wonder if their is organic fish? people who raise fish in a controlled environment? I don't even know if that is legal in Canada? Might be worth looking into?

    yeah ... there are tons of fish farms ... mostly talapia and trout ...

    with fish you have to concern yourself with toxins and sustainability ... strictly on the health bit - i think the general rule is the bigger the fish, the less you can eat of it ... halibut being a huge fish would have a high concentration of mercury ...

    See I didn't know that...fortunately I don't eat a lot of fish.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    See I didn't know that...fortunately I don't eat a lot of fish.

    i eat a lot of fish relative to most people i suppose ... if i had to kill my own food - i'd have no problems eating off the water ... it's hard tho - thankfully, there's an app on my phone that i can use to see which fish i should eat ... haha
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,193
    brianlux wrote:
    Seems to me I'd once heard that some of the Great Lakes nearly died. It's a shame we're not doing more to clean them up rather than further pollute them. Do we have to wait 'till they burn like the Cuyahoga?

    In some ways the lakes are better than they were 40 or 50 years ago. You probably can't light the Cuyahoga on fire these days. My dad has a good story of swimming in Lake Erie in the late 40's and coming up out of the water with a big turd in his hands.

    As far as fish go, it can depend on the lake and what kind of fish it is. PCBs and dioxins are decreasing over time. Here's a link to an article (I guess I'll have to stop eating carp):

    http://greatlakesecho.org/2009/07/17/great-lakes-fish-consumption-advisories-rise-slightly-researchers-question-extent-of-mercury-risk/
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    Go Beavers wrote:
    My dad has a good story of swimming in Lake Erie in the late 40's and coming up out of the water with a big turd in his hands.


    That was probably just a piece of Cleveland.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    My dad has a good story of swimming in Lake Erie in the late 40's and coming up out of the water with a big turd in his hands.


    That was probably just a piece of Cleveland.
    :lol::lol::lol:

    I guess that suits a city whose motto is "Hey, At Least We're Not Detroit!"
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