Job risks?

LikeAnOcean

Say you have a safe job that you don't like.


Say you have a job opportunity, making about 12% more than you are now, but requires you to be part time for 6 months until you get the position.


Do you risk it?

mookeywrench

Is it in writing that you'll get the position in 6 mos.?

81

nope

LikeAnOcean

mookeywrench wrote:

Is it in writing that you'll get the position in 6 mos.?

Not sure yet. A buddy has a full time position and is trying to sell me on it. I have to talk to him more about it.

81

you do graphic design?

LikeAnOcean

81 wrote:

you do graphic design?

That was my major. I did a side job, but that's it. I worked in retail computer support for 3 years after college and have worked as a "Product implementation Specialist' for the past 3 years. Basically I work for a company that personalizes products. We set up the files, test knew products and equipment. I also repair equipment, on call 24/7 this time of year through xmas.

mookeywrench

Gob wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

Is it in writing that you'll get the position in 6 mos.?

Not sure yet. A buddy has a full time position and is trying to sell me on it. I have to talk to him more about it.

well assuming it is for certain 6 months. and money is the only factor.

at 6 mos half time you'll be making (1.12/2) = 56% of what you were making at your old job for six months. Then you get the full time gig at 112% this averages out to 84% of what you were making.

Year 2 you get 112% which average, out for both years to be 98% of what you were making.

So the beginning of year three at your new job is when you'll start seeing that 12 percent more in your paycheck. Is that worth it?

At my place we get 5-10 percent annual merit increases of our base salary. Assuming a 7% increase with your old job for two years means you would be making 14.4% more if you stayed with your old job for those two years.

LikeAnOcean

mookeywrench wrote:

Gob wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

Is it in writing that you'll get the position in 6 mos.?

Not sure yet. A buddy has a full time position and is trying to sell me on it. I have to talk to him more about it.

well assuming it is for certain 6 months. and money is the only factor.

at 6 mos half time you'll be making (1.12/2) = 56% of what you were making at your old job for six months. Then you get the full time gig at 112% this averages out to 84% of what you were making.

Year 2 you get 112% which average, out for both years to be 98% of what you were making.

So the beginning of year three at your new job is when you'll start seeing that 12 percent more in your paycheck. Is that worth it?

At my place we get 5-10 percent annual merit increases of our base salary. Assuming a 7% increase with your old job for two years means you would be making 14.4% more if you stayed with your old job for those two years.

if the hours are as garunteed, I'll make the money back that I lost in 6 months in only 4 months.

mookeywrench

how do you figure that?

LikeAnOcean

mookeywrench wrote:

how do you figure that?

Well, I'll get 25 to 30 hours a week.


actually, the number I figure is how much I'll lose in savings, not including how much I'd save financially in this period. :?

mookeywrench

Gob wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

how do you figure that?

Well, I'll get 25 to 30 hours a week.


actually, the number I figure is how much I'll lose in savings, not including how much I'd save financially in this period. :?

you live on your own? mortgage or rent?

LikeAnOcean

mookeywrench wrote:

Gob wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

how do you figure that?

Well, I'll get 25 to 30 hours a week.


actually, the number I figure is how much I'll lose in savings, not including how much I'd save financially in this period. :?

you live on your own? mortgage or rent?

Yes.. rent.

mookeywrench

Sounds to me like it's a go if the majority of these things are garaunteed. You don't have a wife/kids/house tying you down. You can afford the risk if the job is geared towards your long-term goals.

Keep in mind, if you're a "grass is always greener" type personallity, you'll be finding yourself in the same position in 3 years.

Jamminonthe1

If they are not guaranteed to hire you full-time after six months and in this economy/job market... that's a big risk.

81

mookeywrench wrote:

At my place we get 5-10 percent annual merit increases of our base salary.

:shock:


our base cola over the last 5 years or so has been

4
3
0
2.7
2.5

if memory serves

merits have ranged from like 5% to 15-20% depending on the person and the year

81

one of my old coworkers used to say, you don't leave a job for a new job unless the pay is 20% more

obviously, depending on position and where you are in your career, that rule may not be so ridged...

L20

I can't embed the image I use in my signature (I think you can view it?) but if you're asking on the PJ forum you must know that this is a valid response.
Leap.
It's not a bad way to live.

Best of luck to you and hope you get a happy result whatever you decide!

LikeAnOcean

My biggest problem with my current job is this time of the year they want me 24/7 for tech support. I can't do it anymore. I live 40 minutes away from work. I'm not going all the way home only to turn around and come back. I'm not going to wake up in the middle of the night anymore to go in. I get 40k a year. Thats's not that much. If they are that dependent on me then they can pay me like a doctor to be on call 24/7.

I don't know if any job can fire you for not answering your phone because you are sleeping, but my phone is going off from the time I leave work until the time I come in next. I have no problem working extra hours by staying late, even though I am salary, but I can't make make multiple trips at that distance and be available at 11pm, 5am and 2 o'clock in the afternoon on any given day.


Basically I'm done giving a crap unless I am working my regular hours on the job. It was never told to me I had to be available these hours, but it's become kind of expected out of me over the years. There was a time I lived 5 minutes away from work, and while still a hastle, I was willing to help at just about any hour.


They had plenty of opportunities to train a back-up for me, but that never happened. I'm not a robot.


The other job opportunity wouldn't be for another month anyways. I think at this point it will be a back-up if everything goes to hell in the coming weeks because I'm done stressing about my current job.

decides2dream

81 wrote:

one of my old coworkers used to say, you don't leave a job for a new job unless the pay is 20% more

obviously, depending on position and where you are in your career, that rule may not be so ridged...

you talking jobs, or condoms?
hahaha.
rigid rules.
:P


as someone who has fallen victim to this absolute shit economy and still at it, i would not walk away from a solid job without pause. if you are absolutely guaranteed a fullt-ime position within 6 months, in writing, and feel like this new company is solid, a real step forward ... then sure, go for it. otherwise, i'd hang tight.

81

If you are that valuable and working that much extra, talk to your supervisor about your concerns.

Companies will toss coin to keep quality employee's.

Drowned Out

81 wrote:

If you are that valuable and working that much extra, talk to your supervisor about your concerns.

Companies will toss coin to keep quality employee's.

:thumbup:
Sometimes even the not so quality ones!
Handled right, resigning can be a good career move.

d2d - ribbed....ribbed condoms. :P ridged condoms sound...painful.