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Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu

Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
edited December 2011 in Other Music
what a piece of utter trash.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    That's an insult to trash
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    mookeywrench wrote:
    That's an insult to trash

    :lol:
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  • joewalshdcjoewalshdc Posts: 948
    its offensive to the ears in every sense....
  • veddertownveddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
    I'm reluctant to listen to this as Lou Reed is one of my favourite artists and Metallica despite having some decent songs just aren't. It would be like an aural equivalent of watching Marilyn Monroe getting pumped by Herman Munster I'd guess? :?
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    The little I've made it through.....I think musically it has some cool stuff, or at least different from your standard Metallica stuff, but Reed's voice and delivery just clashes with the music.
  • Mamasan23Mamasan23 Posts: 16,388
    mookeywrench wrote:
    That's an insult to trash
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,034
    I thought it would be like Load, everybody hated it and I loved it, this time I agree with every insult people can throw at Lulu, I've never listened to something so horrific, is like having your most treasured childhood memory being raped by a unicorn wearing a bear rug with platform shoes after a night of speed and LSD singing the national anthem in esperanto.
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  • caifan82caifan82 Mexico City Posts: 321
    Awful, just awful... and a double cd album of almost 90 minutes??! When I heard it, I thought I had been listening for hours and hours, but only 45 minutes had passed.
    When I heard people and reviewers saying it is one of the worst albums ever, I really thought they were exaggerating. But, after listening to the whole thing for the first and last time, I have to somewhat agree: it REALLY is up there with the worst albums ever made (by “credible” and talented artists of course).
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  • Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    Listened to half of it and had to stop, for my own sanity. its sad, because Metallica are still a fantastic live act. Shame they keep insisting on inflicting absolute shite on their fans ever since 1991 (with the exception of Death Magnetic)
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  • titchinellotitchinello Posts: 3,139
    I've downloaded it, but not listened to it yet apart from a little snippet, don't know if james actually sings...
    but the way i look at it is that its a lou reed album, with metallica as his backing band.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    i tried to listen to the voice 3 or 4 times. i did not get any easier with subsequent listens...
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I think I would have preferred Bobcat Goldthwait (police academy years) over Lou Reed.

    Or Shatner. (hey, that's not a bad idea ... :think: :thumbup: )
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    titchinello wrote:
    but the way i look at it is that its a lou reed album, with metallica as his backing band.

    Except there's no collaboration going on, and Lou sounds so confused and lost as to what he should be doing to the point that he just shouts spoken words on top of the music track and hopes for the best.
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  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
    I thought St. Anger was bad, but this is embarrassing. It sounds like they just took two separate unfinished recordings that they didn't know what to do with, slapped them together and said "DONE!". Who the hell came up with the titles? "Iced Honey"? "Little Dog"? "Junior Dad"?...awful.
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    When I heard about this I was excited. I don't know a lot of Lou Reed stuff, but I've always liked Metallica (more early stuff, but I enjoyed Death Magnetic). I thought it would be a cool album to pop on my ipod and come up on shuffle every once in awhile.

    Then I heard a snippet of "The View", I think it's called. Watching "The View" is less painful than listening to this. I didn't get through the whole song. Some might say I'm not giving it a chance, but based on what I'm reading I'm not missing anything. As I scrolled down this thread, I was expecting one person to say they liked it. No matter how awful something is, on this board there is always someone who says it is awesome. This really must be God-awful!

    Is it really all spoken word? No singing?
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  • Mamasan23Mamasan23 Posts: 16,388
    rrivers wrote:
    When I heard about this I was excited. I don't know a lot of Lou Reed stuff, but I've always liked Metallica (more early stuff, but I enjoyed Death Magnetic). I thought it would be a cool album to pop on my ipod and come up on shuffle every once in awhile.

    Then I heard a snippet of "The View", I think it's called. Watching "The View" is less painful than listening to this. I didn't get through the whole song. Some might say I'm not giving it a chance, but based on what I'm reading I'm not missing anything. As I scrolled down this thread, I was expecting one person to say they liked it. No matter how awful something is, on this board there is always someone who says it is awesome. This really must be God-awful!

    Is it really all spoken word? No singing?

    My hubby is one of the few people in the world that actually really likes St. Anger...he loves pretty much anything Metallica does...but even he can't listen to this crap. I don't think any words in the English language are strong enough to spew my hatred of this record!
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,080
    Love Metallica, but i have no desire to hear any of this. From what people are saying it's crap and luckily haven't even hears the single.
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    As a huge Metallica fan I want to thank everyone who posted in this thread for saving me $12 on this album. With the reviews I have read, I will save my ears the trauma of listening to this. Thanks.
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  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    Just terrible.
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  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    I really like Metallica, but based on the reviews this has been getting, I'm scared to subject my ears to it. Curiosity will probably win in the end though.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    Metallica is a really bizaare band to me. they seem to have two diametrically opposed things and factions going on. on the one hand they are a legendary band, whose first 4 albums are modern day classics. Then on the flip side you have everything theyve put out since then, including the black album all the way to Death Magnetic. You have the polished sound of the black album and everything since then that caused their metal purist fans to throw a fit, and you have a series of albums that have been met with less than enthusiastic responses, you have the gaffe of the century with Lars Ulrich coming in on the side of the record industry and trashing his own fans-something that i think has done immeasurable damage to them critically and fan wise, then the epic near unravveling of the band captured on Some Kind of Monster, the disaster that was St Anger, loudness wars, and now this album Lulu which has been universally trashed and been called the worst album of all time by more than a few critics.

    Its amazing to me, you have these two ideas swimming at the same time, existing at the same time.

    I think partially its the epicness and brilliance of their first 4 records that has caused some of this. They created masterpiece after masterpiece,and i think when they changed the sound and started creating records that sounded nothing like Master of Puppets or And Justice, people got disappointed, because what could possibly top One or Sanitarium?
  • pjfan021pjfan021 Posts: 684
    one of the worst albums ever hands down. I'm a huge lou reed fan and dig metallica up to 91 album wise...neither band comes through well on this album..and the fact that they keep stroking each other in interivews like this is the best project ever makes it that much worse; almost like neither group/person wanted to tell the other how bad it came out. pure and utter garbage.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,080
    Well i just heard "Iced Honey" on the local internet radio, y-not radio. Yay wow that was just bad. No harmony, sounded like they sang the song in two different rooms with no prior acknowledgement of getting together.
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  • CarolineSaysCarolineSays Posts: 345
    Looks like Lou has found himself a new bunch of yes men. This is total crap. I doubt if I can even flog this on eBay...

    And this was supposed to be a get well present from my husband. Looks like he wants me back in hospital... 8-):lol:
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    CarolineSays wrote:
    And this was supposed to be a get well present from my husband. Looks like he wants me back in hospital... 8-):lol:

    Ha!
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  • PearlJamaholicPearlJamaholic Posts: 2,018
    not a big fan of metallica but ride the lightning and master of puppets are great.

    Im a huge lou fan. even listened to metal machine music many times and enjoy it when in the mood for that sort of thing. throw in what ever odd thing lou has tried and ive heard most of his discography (at least through the 80s) ive either liked alot of it or it was cool to listen to and worth coming back to once in awhile.

    but this! this is crap. ive never listened to all of st anger, only metallica album i havent heard. so maybe its the missing piece here but to me this is what i have heard of lulu... yes this is the only lou album i have not made it all the way through.

    lulu = the murder mystery (vu) + metal machine music + st anger?

    now the murder mystery is a good song and a fun 9 minutes of experimental rock music. but i cant see st anger being so bad it would take these separate weird but cool lou ideas and make something so awful.
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  • The OracleThe Oracle Posts: 530
    WOW - thanks everyone, and I was considering buying it! I've never heard such a unanimous chorus of disapproval for an album ever.
  • wtf-is-this-worldwtf-is-this-world Posts: 40
    For one thing, the mere idea of LOU REED + METALLICA makes the mind boggle (at least mine). I thought there was still something cool that could come out of it but hell NO. I admit I haven't listened to the whole thing but I know I wouldn't have the patience, I listened to a couple of tracks and it just seemed to drag on forever. I'm a pretty big Metallica fan and I can't help wondering WHY ON EARTH did they go and fetch Lou Reed to do something they would have been better off doing themselves? Both Lou Reed and Metallica are huge artists, widely respected and all, they just don't need each other, they don't need to go and get someone from another artistic planet to show us how they want to erase boundaries between genres. Plus, now I'm praying that there won't be a "Loutallica" joint tour or else Metallica will really shoot themselves in the foot and their (well-deserved) reputation as an ace live act will go down the drain.
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  • Arthur Digby SellersArthur Digby Sellers Posts: 259
    I don't know what you all were expecting. Lou doesn't really sing so of course it's a weird combination. I have never been a fan of Metallica or Lou Reed outside VU, so maybe I didn't really have high expectations. I only downloaded it because of the horrible reviews and morbid curiosity. I was hoping for a laugh and I just listened to the first disc and thought it wasn't that bad at all. I didn't care for Iced Honey, but I thought Cheat On Me was pretty good. To me this record is kind of Sun Ra like and will not be an album you can listen to everyday. It's very experimental and not very catchy, but it's still got cool riffs and Lou Reed poetry so I think some of it works well at times. I guess Metallica fans aren't into avant garde records.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    Arthur Digby Sellers wrote:
    I don't know what you all were expecting. Lou doesn't really sing so of course it's a weird combination. I have never been a fan of Metallica or Lou Reed outside VU, so maybe I didn't really have high expectations. I only downloaded it because of the horrible reviews and morbid curiosity. I was hoping for a laugh and I just listened to the first disc and thought it wasn't that bad at all. I didn't care for Iced Honey, but I thought Cheat On Me was pretty good. To me this record is kind of Sun Ra like and will not be an album you can listen to everyday. It's very experimental and not very catchy, but it's still got cool riffs and Lou Reed poetry so I think some of it works well at times. I guess Metallica fans aren't into avant garde records.

    As a huge fan a Lou Reed and a fairweather fan of Metallica...this album sucks. This album is trying to be avant garde, except it's only out of touch. Lou Reed's "poetry" reads like pulp fiction. It is aimless and at times Lou even sounds lost in what he's wanting to say. It reminds me of someone winging their final speech in a public speaking class.

    The music itself isn't moving any genres forward, it doesn't make you think outside the box, and it's so easy to digest after one listen. I just hear a group of people rushing through an album. You can tell they have an admiration for eachother, but it's to a fault. No one wanted to criticize anyone's role in the process.
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