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Can we be honest about the song Fatal?

Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
edited November 2011 in The Porch
This may be the best "left off" song ever!

Beautifully, creepy, awkwardly filled with truth....

Not sure my interpretations are correct but the song makes me think that EV is singing about God/the lack there of a God.

Like as in... The "answers are fatal" meaning that the only way to "know if God exists" is to be dead.

Lost Dogs is loaded with these Hope diamond songs.

We may all be lucky that instead of forcing 2-3 more songs onto every album they did do a super album.

MHO
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,258
    The answer's in play-doh.
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    ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.
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    Tboz51Tboz51 Posts: 2,808
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    Thank you... Gonna search on YouTurd for it now.
    "Honesty will always be construed as negative to a dumbass"
    :-)
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    its a cracker!
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    JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,217
    Tboz51 wrote:
    This may be the best "left off" song ever!

    Fatal & Sad are two incredible songs. I was first amazed that they left these off any record -- but then I later appreciated the gem that was left for us to dig up elsewhere (until lost dogs of course) :)
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    Grandmas JamGrandmas Jam Posts: 1,860
    I agree, great song. Maybe not the best though. thats a tough call. Lost Dogs has so many spectacular songs
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    left the porchleft the porch Posts: 504
    LOVE THIS SONG! I still can't believe it was left off Binaural. Supposedly it was the producer's (Tchad Blake)favorite song from the whole bunch. I also remember hearing Stone wrote most of the lyrics as well as the music. And that the original lyrics were "The answer's in Plato," referring to the philosopher. Ed suggested "The answer's are Fatal."

    Got to see it live in Buffalo 2010; that was a BIG check off the list! :D

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    KingJeremyTheWicked82KingJeremyTheWicked82 Posts: 725
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    Superb version!
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    klusterfukklusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    one of my favorites
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    samjamsamjam New York Posts: 9,283
    Breathtaking song. Seriously gorgeous and haunting! And it needs to be played more live :D
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    southernmanfansouthernmanfan Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 1,016
    Brilliant song and I feel the same about Sad and Down and a host of others off Lost Dogs ;)
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    ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,599
    Tboz51 wrote:
    This may be the best "left off" song ever!

    Beautifully, creepy, awkwardly filled with truth....

    Not sure my interpretations are correct but the song makes me think that EV is singing about God/the lack there of a God.

    Like as in... The "answers are fatal" meaning that the only way to "know if God exists" is to be dead.

    Lost Dogs is loaded with these Hope diamond songs.

    We may all be lucky that instead of forcing 2-3 more songs onto every album they did do a super album.

    MHO

    love the song. it's about Columbine. right?
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    LoujoeLoujoe Posts: 7,871
    excuse me in advance for any stupidity: all i know is that i know nothing at all

    the allogory of the cave: Plato
    some dudes were locked in a cave from the start of their lives staring at the shadows on the cave walls

    this was there reality

    one person unlocked themselves and saw outside of the cave, not the shadows, the real reality, pure life as we all desire to live

    this person came back to the cave to tell all the others what he or she found

    the cave dwellers thought this person was crazy and cast them out

    generally speaking: we are the dwellers living the 9 to 5 nonsense, bills etc

    PJ provides us with a glimpse of the pure life we desire: according to Stone"the answers in PLATO"; EV thinks FATAL
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    iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    They seriously need to release a Lost Dogs 2. There are just too many great songs on Lost Dogs.
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    sk8drchiksk8drchik Posts: 213
    LOVE this song! This is my husband's favorite and he says the same thing.....they need to play it live more!!!
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    ItIsAllAboutPJItIsAllAboutPJ S.B., CA Posts: 829
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    I can never listen to this once, I always press re-play. It's so haunting, thought provoking and beautiful!
    I just love it. :)
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    LamentLament Posts: 294
    iamica wrote:
    They seriously need to release a Lost Dogs 2. There are just too many great songs on Lost Dogs.


    Out of curiosity, what's the consensus as to what kind of stuff is left in the vault? I would absolutely love a Lost Dogs 2, but I wonder if they have enough material laying around to put one together yet.

    Actually, to be more direct (I'm sure there's enough material around), I wonder if there's enough material that meets the quality level of the original Lost Dogs to warrant a second one. Then again, if even if they do have 3-5 Lost Dogs-level songs from each album still laying around, I wonder if they'd just prefer to release them on forthcoming reissues.

    But yeah, to the original question, what kind of idea do have about what may or may not be in the vault anymore?
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    javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,136
    I thought that "the answer's in Plato".
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    left the porchleft the porch Posts: 504
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Tboz51 wrote:
    This may be the best "left off" song ever!

    Beautifully, creepy, awkwardly filled with truth....

    Not sure my interpretations are correct but the song makes me think that EV is singing about God/the lack there of a God.

    Like as in... The "answers are fatal" meaning that the only way to "know if God exists" is to be dead.

    Lost Dogs is loaded with these Hope diamond songs.

    We may all be lucky that instead of forcing 2-3 more songs onto every album they did do a super album.

    MHO

    love the song. it's about Columbine. right?

    Rival is about Columbine
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,552
    Tboz51 wrote:
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    Thank you... Gonna search on YouTurd for it now.

    If you hate something, don't you do it too.
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    RYEzupSFRYEzupSF Posts: 6,003
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    One of my favorite songs and my favorite versions. And like someone else said, i can never listen to it just once.
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    En La ClandestinidadEn La Clandestinidad Telford, PA by way of Kansas City, MO and Milwaukee, WI, Phoenix, AZ and East Greenbush, NY Posts: 3,625
    Easily one of my top songs they've ever done. The Benaroya version is stunning! (As they all are)
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    staceycurcistaceycurci Posts: 97
    left the porch wrote:
    LOVE THIS SONG! I still can't believe it was left off Binaural. Supposedly it was the producer's (Tchad Blake)favorite song from the whole bunch. I also remember hearing Stone wrote most of the lyrics as well as the music. And that the original lyrics were "The answer's in Plato," referring to the philosopher. Ed suggested "The answer's are Fatal."

    Got to see it live in Buffalo 2010; that was a BIG check off the list! :D

    I wake up and wait up
    Yes I was in buffalo and Ed fucked up the beginning an had to start over :lol:
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    and maybe jsut as good

    otherside

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCDyZxZ3ViA
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    GoodbyeForNowGoodbyeForNow Vancouver Posts: 120
    RYEzupSF wrote:
    Shawshank wrote:
    I can't stop listening to the beneroya version of this. Sooo good.

    One of my favorite songs and my favorite versions. And like someone else said, i can never listen to it just once.

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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 12,064
    I love this song it s beautiful. And as the post above says otherside and hold on prob my favourites full stop
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    imissyoualwaysimissyoualways Posts: 351
    Have always loved fatal. very sad but beautiful song. maybe i've interpreted too literally but i've always thought it is about a women's realization she is stuck in a rut and sees no clear out.. just my point of view. would love to hear others'.. :)
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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,353
    imissyoualways wrote:
    Have always loved fatal. very sad but beautiful song. maybe i've interpreted too literally but i've always thought it is about a women's realization she is stuck in a rut and sees no clear out.. just my point of view. would love to hear others'.. :)


    word, I came to a similar conclusion...to me it always sounded like one end of a relationship losing interest and the remaining end coming to terms with it.


    thanks to who posted that video for otherside...I'd completely forgotten that they'd played that
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    PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,873
    i wake up then bake up!
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    StoveStove Posts: 316
    Seasonally (Yes, I favor some PJ stuff depending on season, time of day & mood) I always think of this song in the fall, because I got Lost Dogs in the fall of 07. I remember the exact moment I first put it on my cd player and how amazed I was. Stone does a similar chord change on "Unhand Me" on Bayleaf, it's a completely different song but he really tapped into something beautiful and mysterious. Would LOVE to hear this live.
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