i'm talking about welfare. you assume that people on welfare have not paid anything ever when i know that this is not true. yes i would have a problem with taking a drug test and i don't even use.
also what type of drugs are they testing for? our prescription pills tested?
Your last questions are the crux of the issue. That would need to be clearly defined. I do not have the specific answer for you, but obviously you would need to consider the fact that folks do take Rx. So, right there the test will not be perfect.
When you get a job, your employer can force you to take a drug test. Are you against that, also? Or, would you simply not take the job on principle?
And if you would and take the test, why is welfare any different?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
i'm talking about welfare. you assume that people on welfare have not paid anything ever when i know that this is not true. yes i would have a problem with taking a drug test and i don't even use.
also what type of drugs are they testing for? our prescription pills tested?
Your last questions are the crux of the issue. That would need to be clearly defined. I do not have the specific answer for you, but obviously you would need to consider the fact that folks do take Rx. So, right there the test will not be perfect.
When you get a job, your employer can force you to take a drug test. Are you against that, also? Or, would you simply not take the job on principle?
And if you would and take the test, why is welfare any different?
actually i have turned down a job because they requested to make me take a drug test. I deal with alot of people with substance use issues in my job and most of them use due to major issues that they are trying to avoid.
secondly, i know that it is easy to say "hey if your on drugs then you don't deserve assistance" but what about children of people on welfare, should they be punished for the issues with they parents?
i'm talking about welfare. you assume that people on welfare have not paid anything ever when i know that this is not true. yes i would have a problem with taking a drug test and i don't even use.
also what type of drugs are they testing for? our prescription pills tested?
And if you would and take the test, why is welfare any different?
It's different because one is the government and the other is a private entity.
i'm talking about welfare. you assume that people on welfare have not paid anything ever when i know that this is not true. yes i would have a problem with taking a drug test and i don't even use.
also what type of drugs are they testing for? our prescription pills tested?
And if you would and take the test, why is welfare any different?
It's different because one is the government and the other is a private entity.
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Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
actually i have turned down a job because they requested to make me take a drug test. I deal with alot of people with substance use issues in my job and most of them use due to major issues that they are trying to avoid.
secondly, i know that it is easy to say "hey if your on drugs then you don't deserve assistance" but what about children of people on welfare, should they be punished for the issues with they parents?
Well, I give you credit then. You are a rare breed.
Yes, we would have to consider the children in these situations. But, are you now saying the children of welfare drug abusers are better off with their parents taking care of them? Not saying that can't be done, but that seems like a bad combination until the parent(s) can straighten themselves out.
And I don't get the substance abuse to get over major issues. If you are talking about folks hooked on drugs due to debilitating pain (current or prior), I hear you. And, there's no reason you could not tailor the program to that. But, if you are talking about folks using drugs because they don't like the life they have, well I have very little sympathy. And, in that case, tough love is probably the only thing that will get through.
It's not that I don't have any sympathy for addiction. It's a scary thing that some folks can't control without help. But, that's the point - let's help them get that help. Why can't this be viewed as a positive? I am not saying kill them. I am not saying throw them out. But, perhaps this can lead to intervention. They are already relying on the gov't, so in a lot of ways, all you are doing is spending the money more wisely with the hope that you save long term (And by save I mean both a life and money).
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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Your last questions are the crux of the issue. That would need to be clearly defined. I do not have the specific answer for you, but obviously you would need to consider the fact that folks do take Rx. So, right there the test will not be perfect.
When you get a job, your employer can force you to take a drug test. Are you against that, also? Or, would you simply not take the job on principle?
And if you would and take the test, why is welfare any different?
actually i have turned down a job because they requested to make me take a drug test. I deal with alot of people with substance use issues in my job and most of them use due to major issues that they are trying to avoid.
secondly, i know that it is easy to say "hey if your on drugs then you don't deserve assistance" but what about children of people on welfare, should they be punished for the issues with they parents?
It's different because one is the government and the other is a private entity.
:?
Well, I give you credit then. You are a rare breed.
Yes, we would have to consider the children in these situations. But, are you now saying the children of welfare drug abusers are better off with their parents taking care of them? Not saying that can't be done, but that seems like a bad combination until the parent(s) can straighten themselves out.
And I don't get the substance abuse to get over major issues. If you are talking about folks hooked on drugs due to debilitating pain (current or prior), I hear you. And, there's no reason you could not tailor the program to that. But, if you are talking about folks using drugs because they don't like the life they have, well I have very little sympathy. And, in that case, tough love is probably the only thing that will get through.
It's not that I don't have any sympathy for addiction. It's a scary thing that some folks can't control without help. But, that's the point - let's help them get that help. Why can't this be viewed as a positive? I am not saying kill them. I am not saying throw them out. But, perhaps this can lead to intervention. They are already relying on the gov't, so in a lot of ways, all you are doing is spending the money more wisely with the hope that you save long term (And by save I mean both a life and money).