Advice.....How would you have reacted?

SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
edited October 2011 in All Encompassing Trip
Long story short my mother was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer on 9/9---not what you want to hear. Professionally I am an 8th grade English teacher who is tenured and heavily involved in the district. On 10/4 my mother had the 'Whipple Procedure'. It is the second most difficult and dangerous surgery behind an organ transplant. I missed four days of work (not consecutively) to be with my family and move my mother in to a rehab facility to make sure she was comfortable.

Last week I was called in to my boss' office and a human resources lady was there. Keep in mind my sick days allow me to use them for family situations. They questioned me about my days off and said there seemed to be a 'pattern of absenteeism'. When did four days become a pattern? I also have a board member's kid in my class which is the entire origin of this story to begin with. The people questioning me know about my mother's illness. I was so hurt and disgusted by this treatment, especially in a business where our product is people. I am a right winger but happy to have a union in my corner right now. It was borderline offensive at best. How would you have reacted? Am I making a bigger deal out of this that it is?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,943
    certainly offensive. If it continues , then its a "pattern of harrassment" on their part. Shameful that HR wasnt more sympathetic.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    It's completely offensive. I would have had a hard time suppressing my anger at whomever called you.


    And then I would want to talk to that person's boss etc. to clear up how ridiculous and insulting they were being.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    First off...hope your mother has speedy recovery and is doing well...no your not over reacting, they should be sympathetic and compassionate like any human should be...I to work for a school board as support staff...they may be in the people business but thy are from any good at it...imo. good luck.
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  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    they also know this all very sudden and happening fast.....she was a healthy 56 year old which makes the diagnosis even harder to swalow...im pissed
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    Wilds wrote:
    It's completely offensive. I would have had a hard time suppressing my anger at whomever called you.


    And then I would want to talk to that person's boss etc. to clear up how ridiculous and insulting they were being.


    i was so shellshocked that i couldn't even be mad at the time...i had to schedule a follow up meeting so i could vent.....should i let the superintendent know.
  • eddieceddiec Posts: 3,859
    Sawyer wrote:


    i was so shellshocked that i couldn't even be mad at the time...i had to schedule a follow up meeting so i could vent.....should i let the superintendent know.

    Did they change their stance when you explained the situation?
  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    eddiec wrote:
    Sawyer wrote:


    i was so shellshocked that i couldn't even be mad at the time...i had to schedule a follow up meeting so i could vent.....should i let the superintendent know.

    Did they change their stance when you explained the situation?


    my boss felt very badly about it....but it should not have happened in the first place
  • First, best wishes to your mother for a speedy recovery and I hope she's comfortable and you're able to spend time with her. I'd be pissed as well as I had a similar situation when my father was ill. I wanted to stay with him 3 days a week for 3 weeks so I could be at his home to change out his IV drip of antibiotics. I submitted a FMLA request and my employer made me use vacation days for two of the three days I wasn't in the office. I worked from home 1 day a week anyway but I offered and did work from my dad's house the other two anyway. In hindsight, I should not have done any work as I was using vacation days. The whole experience left a bitter taste in my mouth and I have a lesser opinion of my employer as a result.

    My only advice would be to put your mother and family first as you don't get that time back and be sure to document in some way how you were treated in case you need additional time off going forward and they treat you the same. Also, speak with your mother's doctors about FMLA and how your assistance or presence can be beneficial to her health condition and recovery. Speak with your union on this as well and get the necessary paper work filled out and on file. It'll save your job in the event you need to be out of the classroom to be with your mother. Remember, you won't get the time you could have spent with your mother back. The classroom will always be there.

    I know its not easy so hang in there and I hope everything turns out well for you.

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  • ShimmyMommyShimmyMommy Posts: 7,505
    I am sorry to hear about your mom. I hope that everything is okay, and she recovers quickly.

    That problem with work sounds so frustrating. I hope they are much more supportive for the next time.

    Lots of love, light and hugs to your mom and you.
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  • vduboisevduboise Posts: 1,937
    I hope your mom gets better soon- and as others pointed out, spend the time you need to make sure your family is well and gets the care that she needs.

    How long have you worked for the school? Have you ever taken unexplained absences before?

    In this case, I don't think you have over reacted. I too would have been upset and angry at your boss and the pr person for calling you in. It was not like your boss didn't know your mom was ill- so it wasn't a surprise. It would have been better if just your boss called you in to talk about your situation and see if there was something more that they could do for you or if you needed more time off- then they could work with you, and cover your shift in the event you needed to leave. That would have been a better response from them.

    My only advice would be, when you go for your follow-up, try not to show your anger too much, they may use that against you- . Have documentation ready about your moms illness and even a note from the dr. It depends on how hard they come back at you with the follow- up. It wouldn't hurt to ask some advice from your union- that's what you are paying them for- so use it.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,242
    Fuck that sucks i hope your mom gets better soon and 2nd def talk to your union rep and let him at least put it in the records about this bullshit treatment of you and def let your boss know how you truly feel ...Really the best to your mom ...
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    I am so sorry to hear of your mom's diagnosis. I would have had a hard time containing my anger. I'm not sure I would have. Family is priority. I hate when employers don't realize that, but it seem like many don't. Hang in there. Hope your mom is ok.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,408
    Sawyer wrote:
    they also know this all very sudden and happening fast.....she was a healthy 56 year old which makes the diagnosis even harder to swalow...im pissed

    Just start gathering all the documentation you have so that if it comes up again, you are prepared with your evidence.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Sawyer wrote:
    Wilds wrote:
    It's completely offensive. I would have had a hard time suppressing my anger at whomever called you.


    And then I would want to talk to that person's boss etc. to clear up how ridiculous and insulting they were being.


    i was so shellshocked that i couldn't even be mad at the time...i had to schedule a follow up meeting so i could vent.....should i let the superintendent know.

    Absolutely.


    And as Justam said. Document it all. This should not be a negative mark on you, and currently people have made it that way. You need to clear it up completely I would say.
  • iamicaiamica Posts: 2,628
    That's ridiculous of them. You had every right to be angry. I hope all goes well with your mom.
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  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I hope your mom gets 100% better.

    I wonder if there's more going on (like someone on the board/administration doesn't like you for whatever reason?) They could be using this as a way to attempt to get things on your record that can later be used against you. I agree with the person who said you should try to get it cleared up - I would have been extremely upset too.

    While it certainly can't compare, I just lost a beloved cat to diabetes after nursing him for a week of illness. I tried to lighten my work schedule this week, and professors of classes I'm auditing were completely understanding. Work is important, but your loved ones are everything. You can't get the time back with those you love. Again please don't think I'm trying to compare the severity of the situation, but everyone needs time off, and your job has that in your contract. Don't let them get away with trying to get a black mark on your record.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,966
    Sorry about your mom and I hope any treatments work well for her.

    I would add to the advice to contact your union rep. When talking with school staff, I'd recommend being nothing but respectful and centered, because anything else will probably be noted as not being emotionally healthy enough to be in the classroom.
  • FifthelementFifthelement Posts: 6,958
    My thoughts and best wishes go out to your mom and your family. I hope she has a speedy and full recovery.

    As to your original question, I have to ask, prior to this meeting with the HR person that you were called in to was your employer aware of the full situation regarding your mother's health? Four days off isn't a pattern per se, however, four days off within two months of starting a new school year could be cause for concern on your employers behalf. Of course, I don't know the full story of who knew what and when, but I can see it from their side as well if they were unaware of the whole situation. Now, if your boss was aware of your situation prior to your follow-up meeting, then they did a piss poor job of following things up with you and you have every right to be outraged. And I would definitely follow-up with your union rep so that things don't escalate out-of-control further on down the road. Best of luck to you in getting this situation all straightened out. Just my two cents :)
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  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    My thoughts and best wishes go out to your mom and your family. I hope she has a speedy and full recovery.

    As to your original question, I have to ask, prior to this meeting with the HR person that you were called in to was your employer aware of the full situation regarding your mother's health? Four days off isn't a pattern per se, however, four days off within two months of starting a new school year could be cause for concern on your employers behalf. Of course, I don't know the full story of who knew what and when, but I can see it from their side as well if they were unaware of the whole situation. Now, if your boss was aware of your situation prior to your follow-up meeting, then they did a piss poor job of following things up with you and you have every right to be outraged. And I would definitely follow-up with your union rep so that things don't escalate out-of-control further on down the road. Best of luck to you in getting this situation all straightened out. Just my two cents :)


    they knew the whole situation in depth...my boss that is
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    I would probably be offended, but is there a chance it could just be protocol and they're trying to cover their asses to prevent problems, past or future, with other employees under similar circumstances?
  • FifthelementFifthelement Posts: 6,958
    Sawyer wrote:
    My thoughts and best wishes go out to your mom and your family. I hope she has a speedy and full recovery.

    As to your original question, I have to ask, prior to this meeting with the HR person that you were called in to was your employer aware of the full situation regarding your mother's health? Four days off isn't a pattern per se, however, four days off within two months of starting a new school year could be cause for concern on your employers behalf. Of course, I don't know the full story of who knew what and when, but I can see it from their side as well if they were unaware of the whole situation. Now, if your boss was aware of your situation prior to your follow-up meeting, then they did a piss poor job of following things up with you and you have every right to be outraged. And I would definitely follow-up with your union rep so that things don't escalate out-of-control further on down the road. Best of luck to you in getting this situation all straightened out. Just my two cents :)


    they knew the whole situation in depth...my boss that is

    Well in that case . . . they're a bunch of assholes! ;) :x Definitely talk to your union rep. Sounds like they're trying to get issues "on record" so they can possibly justify ending your employment in the future. CYA! ASAP! :o :shock: :mrgreen:
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  • SawyerSawyer Posts: 2,411
    thats what's strange...all of my reviews have been golden and I coach three sports....I dont get it
  • I am so sorry to hear about your mom. My prayers and hugs to you and your family.

    p.s. I would have been hurt, too. What are those people heartless?! They should understand; it's your mother, for goodness' sake.
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  • fucking assholes. assholes I say.

    my bitch of a manager is an old maid. no kids. no family. etc. she has no concept of what it means to have a familial situation arise where you need to leave work on a whim.

    family first. fuck the rest.
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