48 Animals had to be put down

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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    This is why only professional and licensed organizations should be allowed to keep large, exotic and dangerous animals.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    People who keep exotic wild animals as pets... should be fed to their exotic wild animal pets. I mean, there's a reason why my face will never be ripped off by a pet monkey... because... I WILL NEVER OWN A FUCKIN' PET MONKEY!!!
    God created cats and dogs for a reason... so we don't have to have bears, lions and monkeys as pets.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    sad.

    the guy let them go and killed himself.

    now we have one dead idiot and 48 beautiful, majestic wild animals, 18 of them endangered, all dead...
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  • Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.

    They had a vet there with a tranquilizer gun ...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    this happened last evening.

    jack hanna was all over the news today saying that they could not tranquilize the animals because they would run off into the woods and they could not find them all in the dark. they would fall asleep, and wake up later and run off and not be found.

    still it is shitty that this guy released all of the animals and that they had to be killed :evil:
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    Don't grow on trees...neither the guns or the darts or the stuff that goes in the darts..don't always work like you see on TV....and you have to know what you are doing.

    Yes, some of the animals represented endangered species. The problem with endangered animals in such a situation is that many were raised in captivity....thus they lack the skills needed for them to be successfully returned to the wild. In the case of the tigers, many rescue tigers (rescued generally from drug dealers by the DEA) are hybrids of multiple species. Being hybrids, AZA certified zoos can't and won't use them in species survival breeding programs. This also makes unacceptable for a return to the wild.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    this happened last evening.

    jack hanna was all over the news today saying that they could not tranquilize the animals because they would run off into the woods and they could not find them all in the dark. they would fall asleep, and wake up later and run off and not be found.

    still it is shitty that this guy released all of the animals and that they had to be killed :evil:
    Jeff Corwin also posted on Facebook that the tranq gun don't always work in such a situation.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    ...
    It is difficult to keep a wild animal. You can't set it free in the wild... it'll probably die. Zoos don't want them because they may have to isolate them from their cage mates.
    The reason why these animals end up at way stations is becuase the asshole original owner could not keep it. Those asshole original owners need to pay for their stupidity. Like if you bring a wild wolf cub into your home, when it grows up into a wild wolf... (because that is what fucking wolf cubs do, grow up to be fucking wolves)... the original owner has to feed his pet one of his legs. He still gets to pick which leg he gets to keep... I mean, we are a civilization, right? There needs to be pain that goes along with stupidity.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Cosmo wrote:
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    ...
    You can't set it free in the wild... it'll probably die. Zoos don't want them because they may have to isolate them from their cage mates.
    No probably about it....either starve or get shot when they stumble into a village, town or neighborhood looking for their accustomed hand-outs.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.
    this happened last evening.

    jack hanna was all over the news today saying that they could not tranquilize the animals because they would run off into the woods and they could not find them all in the dark. they would fall asleep, and wake up later and run off and not be found.

    still it is shitty that this guy released all of the animals and that they had to be killed :evil:

    That's a shame. All those animals had to die because of one selfish person... :evil:
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  • Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.

    The report I saw said one lady shot a tiger with a tranq. dart, and the animal just got enraged and began trying to kill her. She had to put it down.

    This isn't TV, folks. That Hollywood shit doesn't always work when your life is on the line.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Hadn't any of those idiots ever heard of a tranquilizer dart? :-x

    Completely senseless.

    The report I saw said one lady shot a tiger with a tranq. dart, and the animal just got enraged and began trying to kill her. She had to put it down.

    This isn't TV, folks. That Hollywood shit doesn't always work when your life is on the line.
    The TV shows where you see wild animals hit with a tranq gun for capture, you might notice that they shoot from helicopters or moving vehicles on open plains...not suburban America. Because of time constraints and the boredom factor, we don't see all of the planning, stalking and general grunt work that goes into making the capture successful. They don't just spot a tiger, a lion or leopard and say....hey, let's tranq it.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    From CNN:
    Editor's note: Will Tavers is CEO and co-founder of the Born Free Foundation, whose mission is to end the suffering of wild animals in captivity, rescue animals in need and protect wildlife, including highly endangered species. The foundation includes Born Free USA, which runs a primate sanctuary in Texas for 500 primates rescued from laboratories, roadside zoos and private possession.

    (CNN) -- Exotic animals should live in the wild, not be exploited in profit-motivated zoos -- or worse — as "pets" or backyard oddities by people who have a deeply misguided sense of dominion or ownership.

    What happened in Ohio on Tuesday and Wednesday has drawn dramatic attention to the private possession of exotics, an issue that is a major component of Born Free USA's mission to protect wildlife.

    On Wednesday, 56 exotic animals — including lions, tigers, bears, giraffes and wolves — were freed from their captivity at a rural residence outside Zanesville. Police report the animals' "owner," 62-year-old Terry Thompson, let the animals out of their cages before he killed himself. Forty-nine of the animals -- including 18 tigers and 17 lions -- were shot dead by law enforcement officers.

    Thankfully, other than Thompson's death, no human injuries have been reported as a result of this situation.

    Ohio has had a recent flurry of incidents in which exotic animals being held by private individuals in or outside people's residences have been involved in violent encounters with humans. In September, an 80-year-old man was attacked by a kangaroo at an exotic-animal farm in Green Camp. In June, an escaped "pet" grivet monkey scratched two girls while he was on the loose in Fremont. In August 2010, a bear fatally mauled its caretaker on the owner's property in Columbus Station.

    Born Free USA tracks such cases in our Exotic Animal Incidents Database. We list 86 incidents involving exotic animals in Ohio in recent years, and probably many other such encounters have gone unreported. Nationwide, our database lists nearly 1,600 incidents.

    There is no excuse for wild, potentially dangerous, exotic animals to be kept in private hands. Ohio is one of a handful of states with woefully few regulations on the books to govern such questionable close contact with wildlife, and Born Free USA has been pushing for years to get a stronger law enacted in the state.

    In 2006, the Ohio Legislature quickly introduced a bill to restrict private possession of exotics after an Ashtabula County woman was mauled by a 500-pound black bear that escaped a pen kept by a nearby neighbor. The bill failed, and just four years later in 2010, an emergency executive order was put in place after a 24-year-old man was mauled to death by a black bear kept in a Columbia Township compound. The order temporarily banned private ownership of big cats, bears, alligators, crocodiles and certain snakes. In April 2011, the order expired upon the promise by the Ohio Department of Natural Resources and the governor that a new rule-making process would swiftly be established in order to implement regulations regarding possession of exotics. This still has not happened.

    What will it take to get swift action in the state -- and in other states around the country that lack complete bans on exotic pet ownership? Will it take a bigger, more diverse animal escape? A monkeypox outbreak? People dying? There is no need to wait, no need to take this kind of dramatic and incomprehensible risk.

    The drain on society from keeping exotic animals as pets is not insignificant. Humane societies, sheriff's departments and wildlife sanctuaries end up bearing the brunt of the cost of placing these animals and giving them humane, lifetime care.

    In Texas, the Born Free USA Primate Sanctuary provides permanent, safe, naturalistic and free-range accommodations for more than 500 macaques, vervets and baboons, many of whom have been rescued from captive lives of stress, deprivation and danger -- danger to both the monkeys and to their "owners."

    Every chance we get, every day we come to work, in as many effective, forceful and creative ways we can, we encourage our members and supporters to spread the word that wild animals belong in the wild.

    What happened in Ohio this week is appalling. All those animals, imprisoned for no good reason. Their "owner" was apparently a tortured soul who took his own life and put the lives of nearby residents in peril through his bizarre act. And all those wandering animals, confused by their sudden and unfathomable "freedom," were shot dead as though they were alien invaders in a safe bucolic land.

    None of that had to happen. It could have been avoided. Private possession of exotic animals is inexcusable and it puts human lives at risk. When will we, as a civilization, learn that wild animals are just as entitled to live freely on this planet as we are and it is our duty and obligation to ensure that this is possible?

    Maybe, just maybe, the wildlife slaughter on the streets of Ohio will finally spur the change we need for safer and more compassionate communities across the country.

    He says 18 tigers and 17 lions were among them. Six animals were taken to the Columbus Zoo.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/19/opinion/t ... index.html
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    There was a small, dumpy town about 30 minutes from where I grew up where your social status was determined by how many broken down lawnmowers and soda machines you could accumulate in your front yard ... but the rumor was that one house had a lion pen. Rumor was that highway crews would drop road-kill off to dispose of the carcasses. I always thought is was urban legend until a group of friends and I actually sneaked on the property one night and witnessed it with our own eyes.

    The cage / pen wasn't very big and didn't look like it was fit to cage lions. It boggled my mind that he could actually have them legally ... and that his neighbors were OK with six lions that were caged in what looked like a dog kennel!

    Rumor was that the guy had a few bears at one time. I've checked it out in past years when visiting home and pen is no longer there.

    I can't think of one good reason (or even an average reason) on why someone should legally have a lion or other large predators. It's abusive to the animals and presents a danger to the public.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    I saw a report last night stating that there are only 1400 Bengal tigers left in India this guy had 18 of them and now they are dead :x , this should have never been allowed ...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    I saw a report last night stating that there are only 1400 Bengal tigers left in India this guy had 18 of them and now they are dead :x , this should have never been allowed ...
    ohio and missouri apparently have very lax laws regarding the keeping of wild animals...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    I can't think of one good reason (or even an average reason) on why someone should legally have a lion or other large predators. It's abusive to the animals and presents a danger to the public.

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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    heartbreaking tragedy :cry:

    that man . . . terrible betrayal of the gift of life
    senseless
  • What a selfish asshole that guy was...
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  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    This morning on the news - the widow will be getting the rest of the animals that were captured...

    Apparently, over $70,000 in back taxes and lots of other issues surrounded his suicide.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    mikalina wrote:
    This morning on the news - the widow will be getting the rest of the animals that were captured...

    Apparently, over $70,000 in back taxes and lots of other issues surrounded his suicide.
    ...and a recent stint in the pokey for federal gun charges...wow
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    This incident might put me over the edge and plunge me into a sea of nihilism......................(humans are parasites and a plague)

    But, this guy should be off the hook right? And anyone else who abuses animals, right?
    I mean, it's all in Genesis 1:26.................
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,207
    I saw a report last night stating that there are only 1400 Bengal tigers left in India this guy had 18 of them and now they are dead :x , this should have never been allowed ...
    ohio and missouri apparently have very lax laws regarding the keeping of wild animals...
    And will continue because our pussy repub governor wont do more than say theres already athourity in place with Animal control depts.

    Even went on to (reprtedly joke) "we cant invent laws"......

    Our outgoing Governor had a seemingly good start on changing things right before Kasich took office. Kasich allowed that exec order to expire.

    link to the article
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories ... s-say.html


    lifted from the article above

    Unlike an order signed by his predecessor, Gov. Ted Strickland, which Kasich allowed to expire, the new order does not ban ownership or sale of wild animals, or require registration. Kasich said that would require changes in state law to be proposed later this year.

    “Governors can’t just invent laws,” Kasich said at a Statehouse news conference. “I really wish I could have the power to invent any law I want,” he said, joking.
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    "to betray you must first belong"
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,429
    tybird wrote:
    This is why only professional and licensed organizations should be allowed to keep large, exotic and dangerous animals.

    Yes! The Elephant Sanctuary in Tennessee, for example, is very careful and skilled in their care taking.

    But even more so, another reason to stop destroying and encroaching on wildlife's natural habitat. Here's one organization that's doing a great job at trying to reverse that, The Wildlands Network:

    http://www.twp.org/
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    That story sickened me and broke my heart at the same time.

    How dare you, motherfucker? You want to kill yourself, fine. Leave the innocents alone.

    I'm a huge supporter of Big Cat Rescue - working for them would be my dream job (or for Perverted Justice, but that's another story).

    Yes, I look at lion and leopard cubs and just want to nuzzle their bellies and eat them UP they're so goddamned adorable - but to have one as a pet?

    Beyond irresponsible.
  • This story in Esquire http://www.esquire.com/features/zanesville-0312 is as harrowing of an account of that night that I've read. Really good writing.
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