...an important part of World War II and human history...
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All images in this entry are shown in full, not screened out for graphic content. There are many dead bodies. The photographs are graphic and stark. This is the reality of genocide, and of an important part of World War II and human history.
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011 ... st/100170/
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Sad and sickening. I've been to Dachau. I've seen the crematoriums...0
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So sad :(
I can't even imagine what it was like for US troops to go to the camps and see all the dead bodies and having to move them.Shows: 6.27.08 Hartford, CT/5.15.10 Hartford, CT/6.18.2011 Hartford, CT (EV Solo)/10.19.13 Brooklyn/10.25.13 Hartford
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wow....
just horrible..."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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cound't watch them all.. that's all i have to say..0
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The systematic obliteration of peoples deemed unacceptable to the Nazis....Jews, POWs, Roma, homosexuals and others....They did not create genocide, but they set a benchmark....hate that genocide did not get left in history's dust-bin like the Nazis.All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0
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Had to stop looking. For all the criticism the US has faced in recent decades for their foreign policies, this marks one of the greater moments for your country! Every time I drive behind a white-haired fellow that might be going to slowly for my liking, I exercise patience thinking this person deserves it.
This should have been the final genocide in the world's history, but sadly, indifference has allowed others to occur."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
After seeing some of these images and others at Holocaust Mueseum in Wash. DC it reminds me of that Rush song from.....Grace Under Pressure....
Red Sector A...
Red Sector A...lyrics
All that we can do is just survive
All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive
Ragged lines of ragged grey
Skeletons, they shuffle away
Shouting guards and smoking guns
Will cut down the unlucky ones
I clutch the wire fence until my fingers bleed
A wound that will not heal
A heart that cannot feel
Hoping that the horror will recede
Hoping that tomorrow we'll all be freed
Sickness to insanity
Prayer to profanity
Days and weeks and months go by
Don't feel the hunger
Too weak to cry
I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gate
Are the liberators here?
Do I hope or do I fear?
For my father and my brother, it's too late
But I must help my mother stand up straight
Are we the last ones left alive?
Are we the only human beings to survive?
Peace*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
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g under p wrote:After seeing some of these images and others at Holocaust Mueseum in Wash. DC it reminds me of that Rush song from.....Grace Under Pressure....
Red Sector A...
Red Sector A...lyrics
All that we can do is just survive
All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive
Ragged lines of ragged grey
Skeletons, they shuffle away
Shouting guards and smoking guns
Will cut down the unlucky ones
I clutch the wire fence until my fingers bleed
A wound that will not heal
A heart that cannot feel
Hoping that the horror will recede
Hoping that tomorrow we'll all be freed
Sickness to insanity
Prayer to profanity
Days and weeks and months go by
Don't feel the hunger
Too weak to cry
I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gate
Are the liberators here?
Do I hope or do I fear?
For my father and my brother, it's too late
But I must help my mother stand up straight
Are we the last ones left alive?
Are we the only human beings to survive?
PeaceAll the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
tybird wrote:g under p wrote:After seeing some of these images and others at Holocaust Mueseum in Wash. DC it reminds me of that Rush song from.....Grace Under Pressure....
Red Sector A...
Red Sector A...lyrics
All that we can do is just survive
All that we can do to help ourselves is stay alive
Ragged lines of ragged grey
Skeletons, they shuffle away
Shouting guards and smoking guns
Will cut down the unlucky ones
I clutch the wire fence until my fingers bleed
A wound that will not heal
A heart that cannot feel
Hoping that the horror will recede
Hoping that tomorrow we'll all be freed
Sickness to insanity
Prayer to profanity
Days and weeks and months go by
Don't feel the hunger
Too weak to cry
I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gate
Are the liberators here?
Do I hope or do I fear?
For my father and my brother, it's too late
But I must help my mother stand up straight
Are we the last ones left alive?
Are we the only human beings to survive?
Peace
Yes that was the case and here's some other history behind the song....
Geddy Lee explained the genesis of the song in an interview:
The seeds for the song were planted nearly 60 years ago in April 1945 when British soldiers liberated the Nazi concentration camp Bergen-Belsen. Lee’s mother, Manya (now Mary) Rubenstein, was among the survivors. (His father, Morris Weinrib, was liberated from the Dachau concentration camp a few weeks later.) The whole album “Grace Under Pressure,” says Lee, who was born Gary Lee Weinrib, “is about being on the brink and having the courage and strength to survive.”
Though “Red Sector A,” like much of the album from which it comes, is set in a bleak, apocalyptic future, what Lee calls “the psychology” of the song comes directly from a story his mother told him about the day she was liberated.
“I once asked my mother her first thoughts upon being liberated,” Lee says during a phone conversation. “She didn’t believe [liberation] was possible. She didn’t believe that if there was a society outside the camp how they could allow this to exist, so she believed society was done in.”[1]
In a 1984 interview Neil Peart describes writing Red Sector A:
I read a first person account of someone who had survived the whole system of trains and work camps and Bergen-Belsen and all of that (...) through first person accounts from other people who came out at the end of it, always glad to be alive, which again was the essence of grace, grace under pressure is that through all of it, these people never gave up the strong will to survive, through the utmost horror, and total physical privations of all kinds.
...I wanted to take a little bit out of being specific and, and just describe the circumstances and try to look at the way people responded to it, and another really important and to me really moving image that I got from a lot of these accounts was that at the end of it, these people of course had been totally isolated from the rest of the world, from their families, from any news at all, and they, in cases that I read, believed that they were the last people surviving.
Peace*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)0 -
if there weren't photo's, i would have a hard time immagining it really happened. even with photo's it's hard to fathom.0
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some of the images have appeared in several WW2 and holocaust books.Reading 2004
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BinauralJam wrote:if there weren't photo's, i would have a hard time immagining it really happened. even with photo's it's hard to fathom.All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0
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BinauralJam wrote:if there weren't photo's, i would have a hard time immagining it really happened. even with photo's it's hard to fathom.
I encourage you to go see a camp. It fucking changes you.0 -
They are hard to view...Had a conversation with my mom when I was younger after we watched a documentary on the holocaust...and my mom said "for some reason man hates man", that has always stuck with me and I think that one of the truest statements I've ever heard.
Unfortunately it exist around us everyday...maybe someday it will change...I'm highly doubtful.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
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