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brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
edited October 2011 in A Moving Train
I know it may sound a little (or even hugely) ironic for me to say this, but I get a sense that, despite the usual negative, hostile interactions here on AMT, there seems to be a little bit more of a flavor of cooperation and respect here lately as well. It could just be that because I've noticed a few positive interactions between some people here and, being the hopeful optimist, I'm more focused on them, but if that's an illusion, I'm all for fostering that illusion and making it more a reality. Cooperation, courtesy and being considerate are contagious as is working for the common good. We are after all, as a poster wisely put it, The People (and I think that should be taken to its broadest sense, not just a U.S.A. thing). Most of us want pretty much the same things- to feel safe, secure and be healthy in to have a safe, secure and healthy place in which to live, be it home, country or planet. And we're all Pearl Jam fans. What more could you ask for? :)
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young













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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    :wave:
    :wtf:
    :crazy:
    :clap:
    :geek:
    8-)
    :mrgreen:
    :thumbup:
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    Jason P wrote:
    :wave:
    :wtf:
    :crazy:
    :clap:
    :geek:
    8-)
    :mrgreen:
    :thumbup:
    Don't forget this guy!...:lolno: and his pal... :shock:
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    and my favorite ... :think:

    i call it "the byrnzie"
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,259
    hate to burst the happy bubble you have going on here, but there are a few regular posters absent as of late.
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    brianlux wrote:
    I know it may sound a little (or even hugely) ironic for me to say this, but I get a sense that, despite the usual negative, hostile interactions here on AMT, there seems to be a little bit more of a flavor of cooperation and respect here lately as well. It could just be that because I've noticed a few positive interactions between some people here and, being the hopeful optimist, I'm more focused on them, but if that's an illusion, I'm all for fostering that illusion and making it more a reality. Cooperation, courtesy and being considerate are contagious as is working for the common good. We are after all, as a poster wisely put it, The People (and I think that should be taken to its broadest sense, not just a U.S.A. thing). Most of us want pretty much the same things- to feel safe, secure and be healthy in to have a safe, secure and healthy place in which to live, be it home, country or planet. And we're all Pearl Jam fans. What more could you ask for? :)

    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    whygohome wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I know it may sound a little (or even hugely) ironic for me to say this, but I get a sense that, despite the usual negative, hostile interactions here on AMT, there seems to be a little bit more of a flavor of cooperation and respect here lately as well. It could just be that because I've noticed a few positive interactions between some people here and, being the hopeful optimist, I'm more focused on them, but if that's an illusion, I'm all for fostering that illusion and making it more a reality. Cooperation, courtesy and being considerate are contagious as is working for the common good. We are after all, as a poster wisely put it, The People (and I think that should be taken to its broadest sense, not just a U.S.A. thing). Most of us want pretty much the same things- to feel safe, secure and be healthy in to have a safe, secure and healthy place in which to live, be it home, country or planet. And we're all Pearl Jam fans. What more could you ask for? :)

    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome
    great post. i have been thinking the same thing about the tea party and ows coming together. i think the ows people should invite the tea party to join them.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    mickeyrat wrote:
    hate to burst the happy bubble you have going on here, but there are a few regular posters absent as of late.

    Yes, I've noticed that and I hope we would all wecome them all back.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    whygohome wrote:
    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome
    Couldn't have said it better, whygohome. There is no better way to control people than to keep them divided.
    Excellent quote of yours by the way!
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    whygohome wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I know it may sound a little (or even hugely) ironic for me to say this, but I get a sense that, despite the usual negative, hostile interactions here on AMT, there seems to be a little bit more of a flavor of cooperation and respect here lately as well. It could just be that because I've noticed a few positive interactions between some people here and, being the hopeful optimist, I'm more focused on them, but if that's an illusion, I'm all for fostering that illusion and making it more a reality. Cooperation, courtesy and being considerate are contagious as is working for the common good. We are after all, as a poster wisely put it, The People (and I think that should be taken to its broadest sense, not just a U.S.A. thing). Most of us want pretty much the same things- to feel safe, secure and be healthy in to have a safe, secure and healthy place in which to live, be it home, country or planet. And we're all Pearl Jam fans. What more could you ask for? :)

    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome

    Awesome - both posts. :thumbup:
    I'm tearing up over here knowing that people are finally understanding that we are and should be on the same side. It makes me so Hopeful!

    We've got to smarter than those in power, Whygo, but that usually takes stepping back from our situations and looking at things differently. We CAN do this!
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    CH156378 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    I know it may sound a little (or even hugely) ironic for me to say this, but I get a sense that, despite the usual negative, hostile interactions here on AMT, there seems to be a little bit more of a flavor of cooperation and respect here lately as well. It could just be that because I've noticed a few positive interactions between some people here and, being the hopeful optimist, I'm more focused on them, but if that's an illusion, I'm all for fostering that illusion and making it more a reality. Cooperation, courtesy and being considerate are contagious as is working for the common good. We are after all, as a poster wisely put it, The People (and I think that should be taken to its broadest sense, not just a U.S.A. thing). Most of us want pretty much the same things- to feel safe, secure and be healthy in to have a safe, secure and healthy place in which to live, be it home, country or planet. And we're all Pearl Jam fans. What more could you ask for? :)

    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome
    great post. i have been thinking the same thing about the tea party and ows coming together. i think the ows people should invite the tea party to join them.

    I'm heading down to Wall St. next weekend. If I can dig up the courage to speak as part of this movement--I am deathly afraid of being on TV or being the center of attention; I treasure my anonymity--then I would love to extend an invitation to the Tea Party to join us.
    Imagine what could happen if both groups came together!!
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    brianlux wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    Our government and those truly in power;--you know who they are--thrive on a divided public. The division of the masses is what gives them power. And we, The People, certainly do all we can to oblige. We are imprisoned in binaries: red state/blue state, liberal/conservative, right/left, rep./dem; and we engage in petty squabbles of "my ( most of the time uneducated) opinion that springs from my (narrow, TV and pop culture diluted) mind is better than yours," without realizing how trivial and detrimental these petty squabbles can be. Opinions triumph over facts, all the while those in power look down on us and laugh.
    Hell, look at how the mainstream media talks about the occupy movement: the left's tea party; the anti-tea Party.
    Can you imagine if the Occupy movement and the Tea Party came together? If they found common ground in order to make the country better and to restore democracy, instead of remaining divided?

    So brianlux, I hope you are right--as I feel you usually are--and this is a sign of things to come: THE PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE instead of a government working against us for the benefit of the elite. If it can be done on the AMT, then America will surely follow (we can hope).

    "A government is only as corrupt and incompetent as its people are divided and apathetic"----whygohome
    Couldn't have said it better, whygohome. There is no better way to control people than to keep them divided.
    Excellent quote of yours by the way!

    Also, look at the environmental movement, which is your area of expertise. We have to ask the question: who brought climate change/global warming and "going green" to the mainstream? Al Gore. (of course, Carson, Bookchin, Abbey, McKibben, and Kunstler have played an important role) Al Gore is a democrat, so those who despise him because he has a "D" next to his name simply fell in line and denounced his "liberal, treehugging, green propaganda." All because of the letter he has next to his name. The large majority of those who oppose the environmental movement do so without educating themselves on what is going on in this country with respect to our destruction of the natural world.
    So sad that it has become political. Division, division, division.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Didn't I say last week that I am done on the AMT? Damn brianlux and his awesome threads!!!!

    :mrgreen:
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    Jeanwah wrote:

    Awesome - both posts. :thumbup:
    I'm tearing up over here knowing that people are finally understanding that we are and should be on the same side. It makes me so Hopeful!

    We've got to smarter than those in power, Whygo, but that usually takes stepping back from our situations and looking at things differently. We CAN do this!

    Yes WE THE PEOPLE can!!
    I hate to say it, but our government is incompetent and detached. It is up to the people now.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Awesome - both posts. :thumbup:
    I'm tearing up over here knowing that people are finally understanding that we are and should be on the same side. It makes me so Hopeful!

    We've got to smarter than those in power, Whygo, but that usually takes stepping back from our situations and looking at things differently. We CAN do this!

    Yes can, Jeanwah! I hope everybody here on AMT feels the same way.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    whygohome wrote:
    I'm heading down to Wall St. next weekend. If I can dig up the courage to speak as part of this movement--I am deathly afraid of being on TV or being the center of attention; I treasure my anonymity--then I would love to extend an invitation to the Tea Party to join us.
    Imagine what could happen if both groups came together!!

    Thank you for going, whygohome. And inviting the Tea Party to join- what a great idea for bringing people together!

    And thank you for the nice words. It's not about me though, by any means. It's about us. I think it's very important to remember that the vast majority of us- left, right, center, black-white-brown-yellow-purple-and-green are all pretty much in the same boat. Obviously I seem to lean more to the "left" but only because my concern for the environment and social justice issues get put in that box- it's that division thing again. I see it as just wanting the world to be a more safe, secure, healthy place for me, you, everybody.

    I guess if I were to put my money where my mouth is I'd be out there in the streets with you but I promised my wife some time off so we're turning the place over to the kids and heading to the woods for a while to go camping- a long over due and much needed break to re-charge the batteries. Meanwhile, be safe everybody!

    Peace and love :)
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,259
    brianlux wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    hate to burst the happy bubble you have going on here, but there are a few regular posters absent as of late.

    Yes, I've noticed that and I hope we would all wecome them all back.
    Sure I would, but its those very posters that so at odds with each other.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.

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    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Jason P wrote:
    Just when I thought I was out... they pull me back in.

    13951013_37c5cfc7b8.jpg

    :lol: This show was fuckin awesome. Except for that ending of course.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Jason P wrote:
    :wave:
    :wtf:
    :crazy:
    :clap:
    :geek:
    8-)
    :mrgreen:
    :thumbup:
    :lol:


    Not as much insulting... I've noticed.
    Words and personal attacks hurt and not what debate discussions are about.

    Feel's like a kinder gentler place, thank you everyone here :D
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