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chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
edited November 2013 in A Moving Train
while having lunch today i added sugar to my hot tea. on the back of each sugar packet is a message from Domino sugar company for all their consumers to read and be in awe of their love for this planet. what a bunch of asshole these people are with blowing smoke up all our asses. processed sugar is a damn joke anyways. i go out of my way to purchase raw sugar. i have never known a single one of my friends or family members to purchase sugar in the raw. matter of fact, the first time i ever even saw raw sugar was when i was in Canada.

processed sugar is for the birds. i get pissed when i use white sugar. and now they want us all to think they are amazing and so earth friendly. if this company conserves about 3.5 million cubic yards of landfill space annually, how much space do they actually use annually? and why the fuck do we need our sugar (processed) white? i do not understand. again, i am a dumb american getting shit shoved down my throat. i am kinda tired of it actually.

"OUR FLORIDA RENEWABLE
ENERGY FACILITY GENERATES
CLEAN ENERGY HELPING
REDUCE GLOBAL WARMING"

"SUGAR CANE CONVERTS
SUNLIGHT INTO ENERGY
MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN
OTHER CROPS"

"OUR FLORIDA FACILITY
CONSERVES ABOUT 3.5 MILLION
CUBIC YARDS OF LANDFILL
SPACE ANNUALLY"

"OUR FLORIDA
RENEWABLE ENERGY
FACILITY IS THE LARGEST OF
ITS KIND IN NORTH AMERICA"
for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    I prefer to use honey to sweeten things, raw honey is good, manuka honey, etc..i love honey :D I even put it on cuts and burns as it tends to work better than most things.

    Otherwise sugar in the raw is nice, i also avoid white sugar, oh and of course HFCS.

    In the US they put HFCS in just about everything, ive even seen it in cough drops, cough syrup. It's just sooo bonkers,
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    Idris wrote:
    I prefer to use honey to sweeten things, raw honey is good, manuka honey, etc..i love honey :D I even put it on cuts and burns as it tends to work better than most things.

    Otherwise sugar in the raw is nice, i also avoid white sugar, oh and of course HFCS.

    In the US they put HFCS in just about everything, ive even seen it in cough drops, cough syrup. It's just sooo bonkers,
    yes honey honey honey honey
    gotta love honey
    can't believe i didn't mention honey

    HONEY honey
    yummy yummy

    what is HFCS?

    i figured it out on my own :mrgreen:
    high fructose corn syrup!
    bad stuff that stuff
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22398921/

    "It's been used on wounds where nothing else will work," said biochemist Peter Molan, a professor at the University of Waikato in New Zealand who has researched honey and other natural antibiotics for 25 years.

    (interesting article on Manuka Honey)
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    I love our local honey- and am glad we can still get it! :)

    The one I avoid the most is corn syrup, the worst form of sugar- it' made from Frankenstein GMO "corn". Basically a chemical sweetner. YUK!
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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    The worst ingredient has to be anything made with corn syrup. It has become Americas new secret sweetner and it has become very addictive.

    If it's white it's been bleached like white sugar white rice etc. Better to use honey, brown rice, brown sugar, or better yet black rice.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    HFCS is awful. The best argument against it in my opinion is this: go to the grocery store and buy a Coke and then find a store that sells Coke imported from Mexico. The Mexican Coke is 1,000,000X better. (This example only works if you live in a country where Coke uses HFCS). It boggles my mind that Coke sells an inferior product in its own country. At least nobody gets beheaded for selling this kind of Mexican Coke.
    Idris wrote:
    I prefer to use honey to sweeten things, raw honey is good, manuka honey, etc..i love honey :D I even put it on cuts and burns as it tends to work better than most things.

    Otherwise sugar in the raw is nice, i also avoid white sugar, oh and of course HFCS.

    In the US they put HFCS in just about everything, ive even seen it in cough drops, cough syrup. It's just sooo bonkers,
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    At one time, sugar was the most subsidized crop in the U.S......wonder if that is still true or has corn garnered the top spot now?
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,368
    I never use sugar, I use local honey as well.

    HFCS is awful!
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    Monster Rain wrote:
    HFCS is awful. The best argument against it in my opinion is this: go to the grocery store and buy a Coke and then find a store that sells Coke imported from Mexico. The Mexican Coke is 1,000,000X better. (This example only works if you live in a country where Coke uses HFCS). It boggles my mind that Coke sells an inferior product in its own country. At least nobody gets beheaded for selling this kind of Mexican Coke.
    Idris wrote:
    I prefer to use honey to sweeten things, raw honey is good, manuka honey, etc..i love honey :D I even put it on cuts and burns as it tends to work better than most things.

    Otherwise sugar in the raw is nice, i also avoid white sugar, oh and of course HFCS.

    In the US they put HFCS in just about everything, ive even seen it in cough drops, cough syrup. It's just sooo bonkers,

    I tried a Coke last week and I tried a Pepsi last night and neither one of them taste like it did 25 years ago. They tasted like syrup...It is amazing how many things are made or have HFCS added to it. Just take the time and read the ingredients on any package you buy.

    As to what you said...many do not read the ingredients and that's why they corporations can get by using these inferior additives....better for them it's extremely CHEAP!

    peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    g under p wrote:
    I tried a Coke last week and I tried a Pepsi last night and neither one of them taste like it did 25 years ago. They tasted like syrup...It is amazing how many things are made or have HFCS added to it. Just take the time and read the ingredients on any package you buy.

    As to what you said...many do not read the ingredients and that's why they corporations can get by using these inferior additives....better for them it's extremely CHEAP!

    peace
    Hey man...got to keep them Wal-mart prices rolling back somehow... :lol: :twisted:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    tybird wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    I tried a Coke last week and I tried a Pepsi last night and neither one of them taste like it did 25 years ago. They tasted like syrup...It is amazing how many things are made or have HFCS added to it. Just take the time and read the ingredients on any package you buy.

    As to what you said...many do not read the ingredients and that's why they corporations can get by using these inferior additives....better for them it's extremely CHEAP!

    peace
    Hey man...got to keep them Wal-mart prices rolling back somehow... :lol: :twisted:

    Man...how the hell did you know. :D:lol::D ....and it works somehow. Isn't it odd how some of our cheapest foods are the worst for us to consume and the better foods like from Trader Joe's and Whole Foods costs a fortune????

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    I love honey. I avoid HFCS and processed sugar. I try to use sugar in the raw, though I've heard it's just regular sugar with molasses added for coloring. That said, I believe the scientific community is mixed as to the effect of HFCS versus raw sugar:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-f ... up/AN01588

    On the flip side, an interesting read on a princeton study that found rats got much fatter off HFCS than sugar:
    http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/arch ... /91/22K07/

    But hey, it's all moot when you have a deep love for craft beer! :lol:
    http://beerburglar.com/blog/?p=272
    Mmmm...dogfish head...
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    MotoDC wrote:
    I love honey. I avoid HFCS and processed sugar. I try to use sugar in the raw, though I've heard it's just regular sugar with molasses added for coloring. That said, I believe the scientific community is mixed as to the effect of HFCS versus raw sugar:

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/high-f ... up/AN01588

    On the flip side, an interesting read on a princeton study that found rats got much fatter off HFCS than sugar:
    http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/arch ... /91/22K07/

    But hey, it's all moot when you have a deep love for craft beer! :lol:
    http://beerburglar.com/blog/?p=272
    Mmmm...dogfish head...

    HFCS is bad, no debate about that. But no doubt too much of even raw sugar is not healthy. But that's just like obvious no? The HFCS people also tend to push that line of thinking in an effort to show that HFCS is not the only bad sugar, "Hey it all will kill you anyway, rather save money in the process, buy HFCS" But what they forget to add is that HFCS is one of the major causes of the growing diabetes rates.

    Also due (in large part) to the insulin in the HFCS, Now I don't know if they still use insulin to break down the sugars when they make HFCS, but they were doing it at one point. So in reality when people were drinking cokes, we were also pounding down insulin. So every day a kid pops a couple pops, they are also taking in whatever amounts of insulin. So it confuses the body, the body reacts, and what we have seen as an end result is...diabetes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKPh02ocas

    Hey made with real cane sugar :P Are they still making these? I know that commercial is a few years old now,
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    It wont surprise me one day that some company will put HFCS in bottled water I check those ingredients too.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Monster Rain wrote:
    HFCS is awful. The best argument against it in my opinion is this: go to the grocery store and buy a Coke and then find a store that sells Coke imported from Mexico. The Mexican Coke is 1,000,000X better. (This example only works if you live in a country where Coke uses HFCS). It boggles my mind that Coke sells an inferior product in its own country. At least nobody gets beheaded for selling this kind of Mexican Coke.

    Is coke really any better with sugar? I tried the Throwback Pepsi with sugar in it and it was so damn sweet it made my teeth hurt. Then again if I am drinking a coke I think the best sweetner for it is probably rum.
  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    I like the Pepsi Throwback, but Mexican Coke is much better. The Pepsi Throwback doesn't use cane sugar. They get the sugar from beets or some other vegetable. The Coke from Mexico is cane sugar, plus Coke isn't as sweet as Pepsi to begin with so it all adds up to deliciousness.
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Monster Rain wrote:
    HFCS is awful. The best argument against it in my opinion is this: go to the grocery store and buy a Coke and then find a store that sells Coke imported from Mexico. The Mexican Coke is 1,000,000X better. (This example only works if you live in a country where Coke uses HFCS). It boggles my mind that Coke sells an inferior product in its own country. At least nobody gets beheaded for selling this kind of Mexican Coke.

    Is coke really any better with sugar? I tried the Throwback Pepsi with sugar in it and it was so damn sweet it made my teeth hurt. Then again if I am drinking a coke I think the best sweetner for it is probably rum.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Costco in the US has been selling the Mexico Glass bottled Coke for about 3-4 years now, luuuuv it!
  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    g under p wrote:
    I tried a Coke last week and I tried a Pepsi last night and neither one of them taste like it did 25 years ago. They tasted like syrup...It is amazing how many things are made or have HFCS added to it. Just take the time and read the ingredients on any package you buy.

    As to what you said...many do not read the ingredients and that's why they corporations can get by using these inferior additives....better for them it's extremely CHEAP!

    peace

    soda is made from syrup, at least fountain soda is (and always was--at least going back to when they removed the cocaine out of Coca-Cola :shock: ) Were you drinking it at a restaurant or did in come in a bottle/can?
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Idris wrote:
    Costco in the US has been selling the Mexico Glass bottled Coke for about 3-4 years now, luuuuv it!
    Sam's Club also sells them.....too bad I found that I was diabetic this summer.....no more sugary drinks for me. :(
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Big Gulp ban? NYC to ban large drinks

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0531/Big-Gulp-ban-NYC-to-ban-large-drinks

    Mayor Bloomberg wants a 16-ounce limit on the size of sugary drinks sold in New York City. The big soda ban would apply to drinks that contain more than 25 calories per 8 ounces. Diet soda would be exempt.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg is proposing a ban on the sale of large sodas and other sugary drinks in the city's restaurants, delis and movie theaters in the hopes of combating obesity — an expansion of his administration's efforts to encourage healthy behavior by limiting residents' choices
    -

    Companies blast proposed NYC drinks ban

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-57444711/companies-blast-proposed-nyc-drinks-ban/

    CBS/AP) NEW YORK - Beverage and fast-food companies are attacking a proposed ban in New York on the sale of large sodas and other sugary drinks.

    The Coca-Cola Company (KO) attacked the plan and encouraged residents to rally against it.
  • riotgrlriotgrl Posts: 1,895
    I really like sucanat which is a much less refined version of sugar in the raw. And you can get it in the bulk bins at Whole Foods for very little money (BTW, I am addicted to the bulk bins there!) Although raw honey is my favorite!
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Currently using this Honey, we have a whole foods here in Toronto but it's a bit far from where I am. Having said that, I live next to one when I'm in the States and go often!

    http://www.honeybunny.ca/products/raw-honey-pail.php
  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    Idris wrote:
    Currently using this Honey, we have a whole foods here in Toronto but it's a bit far from where I am. Having said that, I live next to one when I'm in the States and go often!

    http://www.honeybunny.ca/products/raw-honey-pail.php


    I see that Liquid honey for soothing sore throats mixed with lemon. Honey is great for coughs as well.
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    mikalina wrote:
    Idris wrote:
    http://www.honeybunny.ca/products/raw-honey-pail.php


    I see that Liquid honey for soothing sore throats mixed with lemon. Honey is great for coughs as well.

    Honey and Lemon, yea that's a power drink right there!

    A little article on Honey Bees

    http://www.ketknbc.com/news/the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-bees
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,051
    Idris wrote:
    mikalina wrote:
    Idris wrote:
    http://www.honeybunny.ca/products/raw-honey-pail.php


    I see that Liquid honey for soothing sore throats mixed with lemon. Honey is great for coughs as well.

    Honey and Lemon, yea that's a power drink right there!

    A little article on Honey Bees

    http://www.ketknbc.com/news/the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-bees

    Honey- yeah! Love them little bees! We need them!
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Just read that Coke (to save money) is switching to HFCS for its Mexican Coke...:( bummer,
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Ahhhhhh nevermind! http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-coke-us-still-cane-152031779.html

    Mexico Will Continue Making Sugar-Sweetened Coke—But Only for the United States
  • backseatLover12backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    Raw honey fan here! LOVE it!

    And soda makes me thirsty (I haven't drank it in years for this reason). There's got to be something wrong with a drink when it actually makes you thirsty rather than quench your thirst.
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