Reid triggers 'nuclear option' in the Senate...

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited October 2011 in A Moving Train
and it is about damn time!! :clap:

probably can't implement it, but it was a nice attempt...

i am not a big fan of unilateral action, but this senate has been ridiculous with the party of no fillibustering everything, even stuff that they agree on... hopefully this will break the logjam and allow the senate to vote on important issues.


Reid triggers ‘nuclear option’ to change rules, prohibit filibusters

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1861 ... ilibusters

In a shocking development Thursday evening, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) triggered a rarely used procedural option informally called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

The Democratic leader had become fed up with Republican demands for votes on motions to suspend the rules after the Senate had voted to end a filibuster.

Reid said these motions, which do not need unanimous consent, amount to a second-round filibuster after the Senate has voted to move to final passage of a measure.

The surprise move stunned Republicans, who did not expect Reid to bring heavy artillery to what had been a humdrum knife fight over amendments to China currency legislation.

Reid appealed a ruling from the chair that Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) does not need unanimous consent to force a vote on a motion to suspend the rules to consider amendments after cloture has already been approved.

The chair, which was occupied by Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska), ruled under the advice of the Senate parliamentarian that Republicans had the right to force a vote on a motion to suspend the rules and proceed to President Obama’s controversial jobs bill.

Republicans planned to use this right of the minority to embarrass Obama by showing that many Democrats do not support his jobs package as originally drafted. But Reid moved to kill their plan by appealing the chair’s ruling, triggering a vote.

The maneuver is arcane but momentous. If a simple majority of the Senate votes with Reid and strikes down the ruling, the chamber’s precedent will be changed through the unilateral action of one party.

Republicans had considered using this maneuver, dubbed the “nuclear option,” in 2005 to change Senate rules to prohibit the filibuster of judicial nominees. Democrats decried the plan and the crisis was resolved by a bipartisan agreement forged by 14 rank-and-file senators known as the Gang of 14.

Senate Republicans were furious at Reid’s actions.

“Just wait until they get into the minority!” one GOP staffer growled.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    “Just wait until they get into the minority!” one GOP staffer growled.
    ...
    GREAT! It's not a game or a war you stupid fucking partisan staffer piece of shit.
    Put all of these assholes to work and get rid of the bullshit session that leads to nothing getting done.
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  • EvoLukinEvoLukin Posts: 188
    Cosmo wrote:
    “Just wait until they get into the minority!” one GOP staffer growled.
    ...
    GREAT! It's not a game or a war you stupid fucking partisan staffer piece of shit.
    Put all of these assholes to work and get rid of the bullshit session that leads to nothing getting done.
    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    what took so long?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    wow, i am shocked that nobody is yelling "TREASON!!!!" or "BULLSHIT!!" on this one.

    could it be that we all agree that this was a necessary move?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    I think they are all a bunch of whiny losers playing games. And I think this is just another play.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    I think they are all a bunch of whiny losers playing games. And I think this is just another play.
    or it could be a move out of frustration with the republicans complete and utter refusal to debate anything or vote on anything. that is what a fillibuster is, a blocking and stalling technique.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    I think they are all a bunch of whiny losers playing games. And I think this is just another play.
    or it could be a move out of frustration with the republicans complete and utter refusal to debate anything or vote on anything. that is what a fillibuster is, a blocking and stalling technique.

    Thanks for the definition of filibuster didn't know.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    wow, i am shocked that nobody is yelling "TREASON!!!!" or "BULLSHIT!!" on this one.

    could it be that we all agree that this was a necessary move?


    Seriously? The GOP has to LOVE this. He just made repeal of Obamacare easier in 2013.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    unsung wrote:
    wow, i am shocked that nobody is yelling "TREASON!!!!" or "BULLSHIT!!" on this one.

    could it be that we all agree that this was a necessary move?


    Seriously? The GOP has to LOVE this. He just made repeal of Obamacare easier in 2013.
    that is assuming a few things....

    1. the new senate term starts in 2013 and the filibuster rules have been reset.

    2. the gop will not only win the senate, they will hold more than 52 seats, and

    3, if the gop wins, they get the rules of the senate that they want to pass actually passed...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,432
    The idea of getting congress into gear sounds good to me. I just hope that the measures that do go through head us in the direction of improving justice, environment and human rights issues. Throw in an improved scaled down economy and peace and I'm a happy guy. Not too hard to please, right? :)
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