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Surprised I haven't seen this: Koch Industries in trouble

mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
edited October 2011 in A Moving Train
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... eport-says

looks like the Koch Industries has some explaining to do. Interesting report. I wonder if they are alone in what they did, or are other big corporations knowingly doing business with Iran or other countries that are on sanctions.

If what they did was illegal, I hope they go get 'em
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    and people are wondering why there are protests!? ... :shock:
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Oh boy
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  • Juan GodoyJuan Godoy Posts: 490
    it's not a surprise what they've done
  • GrandmaGrandma Posts: 259
    Word is the Koch brothers are the money behind Karl Rove's SuperPac. Obviously not the biggest of patriots.
    And we wonder why we're still hooked on foreign oil.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/03/8120637-koch-industries-made-secret-sale-to-iran-report-says

    looks like the Koch Industries has some explaining to do. Interesting report. I wonder if they are alone in what they did, or are other big corporations knowingly doing business with Iran or other countries that are on sanctions.

    If what they did was illegal, I hope they go get 'em


    Why are you surprised. This has been ongoing for years. Hell Haliburton was doing it on 2005 and let's not pretent Cheney [Mr. Energy] didn't know.

    1.--[Huntsman Corporation] Jon Huntsman, GOP candidate for President company was selling chemicals to Iran in violation of UN sanctions. Chemicals that could be used in rocket fuel.
    http://www.irantracker.org/global-busin ... iness-iran


    2.--Exposing Iran’s secret enablers
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... WTm7sfm7NO

    3.--Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team (2005)
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... va&aid=806

    Scandal-plagued Halliburton, the oil services company once headed by Vice President Dick was secretly working with one of Iran’s top nuclear scientists on natural gas related projects and, allegedly, selling the scientists’ oil company key components for a nuclear reactor, according to Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge of both companies’ business dealings.

    Just last week a National Security Council report said Iran was a decade away from acquiring a nuclear bomb. That time frame could arguably have been significantly longer if Halliburton, which just reported a 284 percent increase in its fourth quarter profits due to its Iraq reconstruction contracts, was not actively providing the Iranian government with the financial means to build a nuclear weapon.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    puremagic wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/03/8120637-koch-industries-made-secret-sale-to-iran-report-says

    looks like the Koch Industries has some explaining to do. Interesting report. I wonder if they are alone in what they did, or are other big corporations knowingly doing business with Iran or other countries that are on sanctions.

    If what they did was illegal, I hope they go get 'em


    Why are you surprised. This has been ongoing for years. Hell Haliburton was doing it on 2005 and let's not pretent Cheney [Mr. Energy] didn't know.

    1.--[Huntsman Corporation] Jon Huntsman, GOP candidate for President company was selling chemicals to Iran in violation of UN sanctions. Chemicals that could be used in rocket fuel.
    http://www.irantracker.org/global-busin ... iness-iran


    2.--Exposing Iran’s secret enablers
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... WTm7sfm7NO

    3.--Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team (2005)
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... va&aid=806

    Scandal-plagued Halliburton, the oil services company once headed by Vice President Dick was secretly working with one of Iran’s top nuclear scientists on natural gas related projects and, allegedly, selling the scientists’ oil company key components for a nuclear reactor, according to Halliburton sources with intimate knowledge of both companies’ business dealings.

    Just last week a National Security Council report said Iran was a decade away from acquiring a nuclear bomb. That time frame could arguably have been significantly longer if Halliburton, which just reported a 284 percent increase in its fourth quarter profits due to its Iraq reconstruction contracts, was not actively providing the Iranian government with the financial means to build a nuclear weapon.

    I wasn't referring to the actions of the Koch brothers...more to the fact that as much as the Koch bros are thrown around on these boards as the evil puppeteers that I was the first to post an article...Thought people would jump at the chance.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    :x :x more crony capitalism.
    These cocksuckers need to burn for this shit. Iran has already been linked to material used to make IED's Also General Electric was doing business with Iran but they did stop according to G.E.


    Im willing to bet,well at least I hope so that the Tea party rejects any money or anything for that matter from these dicks. :x
  • GrandmaGrandma Posts: 259
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    :x :x more crony capitalism.
    These cocksuckers need to burn for this shit. Iran has already been linked to material used to make IED's Also General Electric was doing business with Iran but they did stop according to G.E.


    Im willing to bet,well at least I hope so that the Tea party rejects any money or anything for that matter from these dicks. :x
    Sarcasm I assume?

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Pet ... -anonymity
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Grandma wrote:
    WaveCameCrashin wrote:
    :x :x more crony capitalism.
    These cocksuckers need to burn for this shit. Iran has already been linked to material used to make IED's Also General Electric was doing business with Iran but they did stop according to G.E.


    Im willing to bet,well at least I hope so that the Tea party rejects any money or anything for that matter from these dicks. :x
    Sarcasm I assume?

    http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Pet ... -anonymity


    No not at all. If they are guilty of this then they should be held accountable. Party affiliation or organization ties I could care less about. If someone is breaking the law or is engaging in un ethical business then I don't want anything to do with them perliod.
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    So if the the Koch's are making money from Iran and then taking that money and funding the Tea Party, that make Tea Party members and their Representatives in Congress, supporters of terrorism, correct?
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    folks ... this is the meaning of globalization ... this is why there should be a revolution ... this is why the game is rigged ... this has been going on for a while now ...
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    he still stands wrote:
    So if the the Koch's are making money from Iran and then taking that money and funding the Tea Party, that make Tea Party members and their Representatives in Congress, supporters of terrorism, correct?


    It definitely makes Koch, Huntsman, and Halliburton supporters of terrorism -not only did they knowingly, but willingly supplied Iran with products in the pursuant of nuclear advancement- they ALL knew that they were violating sanctions that had been imposed upon Iran.

    Under the terms of the Patriot Act, the United States government has the right to seize the profits these companies made from their dealings with Iran. (Bet that would put a dent in the national deficit).

    The Patriot Act would also allow the U.S. government to seize the financial records of these companies in order to trace how their profits were spent or donated; that probably has a lot of politicians shaking in their boots. (Bet you won’t see any of these CEOs being called before a public Senate hearing.)
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • BH10628BH10628 Posts: 9
    Two sides to every story. Read this as well before you draw conclusions.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/koch-responds-to-bloomberg/2011/03/29/gIQA3KzNIL_blog.html
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Whether they did it for a day, a week, a month or a year or years, Koch Industries was selling Iran materials that could be used to enhance Iran's nuclear program. Slice it anyway you want, Koch Industries profitted from and supported terrorism under the terms of the Patriot Act.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    puremagic wrote:
    Whether they did it for a day, a week, a month or a year or years, Koch Industries was selling Iran materials that could be used to enhance Iran's nuclear program. Slice it anyway you want, Koch Industries profitted from and supported terrorism under the terms of the Patriot Act.
    exactly...

    whether they are held to account under the law remains to be seen. and i for one doubt that they will. the laws do not apply to all businesses equally. especially when you are part of the military industrial complex or the oil industry...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BH10628BH10628 Posts: 9
    You may disagree with the law about using foreign subsidiaries, but there is no evidence that Koch violated the law.

    Where is the outrage about GE and HP doing business with Iran years after Koch voluntarily stopped?
  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Grandma wrote:
    Word is the Koch brothers are the money behind Karl Rove's SuperPac. Obviously not the biggest of patriots.
    And we wonder why we're still hooked on foreign oil.

    Actually Its OBama that doesnt want to get off of foreign oil! He has denied our domestic natural gas production! Shale Oil!
    He has denied drilling permits and expansion of drilling on land also
    He has downgraded the coal industry!
    So whats to say? Obama is at fault!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
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