Four questions for AMT followers
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Question one: Why do suppose it is that so much space here on AMT and in the press has been taken up for such a long time talking about an election that even now is over a year off?
Question two: Why do you suppose it is that there is such a great turn-over in GOP candidates?
Question three: Why is it that so many of the GOP candidates that are seen by such a large number of people as being long shots (read that any way you want) getting so much attention in the press and here on AMT while the more moderate candidates who are more likely to actually be nominated are relatively ignored?
Question four: Why is it that such a large percentage of the presidential debate on a forum built around a band known for being rather progressive is focused on strongly conservative candidates while candidates and politicians that lean toward being liberal or progressive seem to get less focus here? (The same could be said of the general media- at least it seems that way to me- maybe I missed something.)
Question two: Why do you suppose it is that there is such a great turn-over in GOP candidates?
Question three: Why is it that so many of the GOP candidates that are seen by such a large number of people as being long shots (read that any way you want) getting so much attention in the press and here on AMT while the more moderate candidates who are more likely to actually be nominated are relatively ignored?
Question four: Why is it that such a large percentage of the presidential debate on a forum built around a band known for being rather progressive is focused on strongly conservative candidates while candidates and politicians that lean toward being liberal or progressive seem to get less focus here? (The same could be said of the general media- at least it seems that way to me- maybe I missed something.)
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2. If you are referring to the turnover from 2008 to now ... it is likely because running a full on campaign is expensive and if you didn't win before, your chances are slim the next go around ... unless you are a candidate like ron paul who is still building a base of support ..
3. Because the issues are secondary to the public - sound bites are what the media wants ... the stupider and crazier the better
4. Debate on this forum would not exist without the conservative view point ... the threads that have the most activity usually indicates there are at least two sides discussing something ... also, as far as I know ... Obama will be on the ballot next year so there really isn't any one to discuss ...
2) Because we and our media spend 10 seconds on someone, they try to find the hot new person to get excited about.
3) Because the long shot candidates are usually extremists in some way, so their outlandish comments or whatever make for good media fodder.
4) There is no debate on the democratic candidate this time around. In 2007-08 (and 2003-04) on this board there was plenty of discussion about democrats and progressive candidates. And honestly, we give those who we voted for a bit of a pass a lot of times (see #1), and it's much easier to complain about the other guys and blame stuff on them.
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1. Presidential elections are a big deal. Politics in general get people fired up and the prospect of our country either staying the course or changing for a more conservative line is interesting to a lot of people. It seems now more than in the last few elections with the exception of 2008, people are more involved. Lots of people have lots riding on this election.
2.Not sure what you mean by great turn over, but if you mean why do so many people get in and get out, I would say it is because it seems that conservatives are sick of seeing the same people. you can only run mccain so many times.
3. This leads into this question, the more moderate candidates don't fit the crazy mold that the press likes to label the "tea party" with... But also, I would say most of the press I see focuses on Perry and Romney. The debates seem to be Perry and Romney debates. it is garbage. I wish more focus would be given to the other candidates, like Paul, Huntsman, Johnson...people who actually are intelligent and can speak with conviction about their stances on issues. Instead we get Bachmann talking about god knows what, Romney barely saying anything and remaining in first place, and Perry getting murdered by the other candidates but still polling well (even though he is losing ground).
4. Who gets fired up discussing things they agree on. Conservative policies fire people up. Whether it is conservatives getting excited at the prospect of a real conservative getting elected (as opposed to a neo con or worse)...or democrats getting excited (and angry) over the prospect of a conservative getting elected. There is still a lot of anger focused at the GOP for Bush, and that anger has now been matched from the GOP at Obama. So now we have two motivated bases that get fired up. I think most of the discussions have a conservative topic at heart because it always gets brought up. Whether it is by someone who has done a fantastic job trolling all of you
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2) Because the party is confused. It's a battle between fiscal and social conservatives and the party hasn't been cultivating the right leaders. The party (with the help of the media) has a large amount of soundbyte leaders so they come and go quickly. Someone with a real message takes a long time to be heard.
3) I'm not sure I agree with you here or maybe I misunderstand, sop I can't answer.
4) Again I think this is simply because the GOP has the huge candidate pile while the Dems have the incumbent. And people here love to hate on some of the GOP candidates so they get talk about a lot more.
I have a feeling come next year's election will turn out similar to the 2004 for election...the incumbent President gets re-elected.
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It's clearly sarcasm, like 90% of my posts.
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That's an excellent question, g under p, although, based on moves like trashing the EPA, I'm prone to consider the current administration to be as much conservative as liberal- but I get what you're saying. And maybe we'll find out- hard to say.
But I still tend to strongly agree with "Big Mouth"* (I love it!
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It is because of the non-stop campaign cycle due to the 24 hour news cycle that cable television has brought to bear. There are pros and cons linked to this... pro being a greater turnout during the mid-terms... the cons being the divisive nature of campaigns. Americans are no longer one. We are different teams competing to destroy the other team. What we fail to see is that we are different sides of the same team... like the offense and defense of a football team. Trying to undermine your defensive unit will never get you a Super Bowl ring.
Question two: Why do you suppose it is that there is such a great turn-over in GOP candidates?
The Tea Party factor. Republican candidates fear the Tea Party... and have good reason to. Republican representatives have been displaced in the mid-term elections. Tea Party has replaced the Christian Coalition as the bloc to be courted... and not pissed off.
Question three: Why is it that so many of the GOP candidates that are seen by such a large number of people as being long shots (read that any way you want) getting so much attention in the press and here on AMT while the more moderate candidates who are more likely to actually be nominated are relatively ignored?
Again, the Tea Party factor plays a role here. To many whom align themselves with the Tea Party are relatively hard-liners that see moderation and compromise as weaknesses. Candidates have to play to this bloc while campaigning.
Question four: Why is it that such a large percentage of the presidential debate on a forum built around a band known for being rather progressive is focused on strongly conservative candidates while candidates and politicians that lean toward being liberal or progressive seem to get less focus here? (The same could be said of the general media- at least it seems that way to me- maybe I missed something.)
Because that is the wildcard. The Democrats already know who they will be running.
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