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As I know that it is not possible to be the only conservative here, but maybe the only one willing to admit it. I must say this: www.hermancain.com
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Stick around- you won't find yourself lonely.
Personally, I can't say I'm conservative... but if it's conservationist, I'm there!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Yeah....good luck with that.
Glad to see I am not the only one. Being from Atlanta, I really like Cain as well. I have been a fan of his for years, I think he is a business person that will be able to get the country back on track.
I see most of the chastising in response to bigoted, discriminatory beliefs that oppress others. Do you think people should just let those slide?
Are you buying what Herman says about needing to protect our borders, strengthen our military, and at the same time cut government spending? I hope you're not.
Hail, Hail!!!
i think he also said that since he knows pizza, government should be like pizza. if you want pizza, you call and it shows up. if you want government you call and government will show up.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I like that. Especially since the people calling for the pizza are the ones that pay for it.
You're absolutely right...some beliefs are clearly unworthy and should be suppressed at all costs. :roll:
I'm curious as to how beliefs can oppress...I can see how laws and policies driven by beliefs can be oppressive, but the beliefs themselves?
If that's the case, I see more conservatives being "oppressed" on this forum than any other group of people.
Don't try to word swap. Originally, it was 'chastised', not supressed. If an opinion is based on mis-truths and not based in fact, than it is, by default, wrong. If someone wants to post in here, and then not be disagreed with, then they're setting themselves up to feel 'chastised'. Opressive law and policies have oppressive beliefs connected to them. In aet, beliefs are discussed, and that's it, because we aren't making policy. It seems odd that you want people to come in here to discuss beliefs, but then play up disagreements like you're being victimized some way. Do you want each thread to have 4 posts in it? "I think this", "well, I think this", "no, I like this way better", "I think Ron Paul said it best..."?
I'd call it a draw. Too bad this forum doesn't have a "take a poll" format (at least I've never seen one).
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
The old pit had a poll option, I miss that old forum. Ah...the good old days.
Herman is a great man.....a problem solver! He will get the job done! He will simplify the whole thing!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
http://www.newser.com/story/123546/herman-cain-tennessee-mosque-is-an-infringement-and-an-abuse-of-our-freedom-of-religion.html
"Cain also claimed the mosque "is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion," the AP reports.
Cain: Black community 'brainwashed' into voting for Dems
Does it really matter that Herman Cain is a black Republican and does that change his policies to garner more of the black vote?
Comment of the Day: Let's see if Clarence Thomas and Cain can get a support group going. - The RNC (Righteous Neanderthal Circus)
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Neanderthal????? Sounds pretty racist to me.
You should have seen some of the other comments on that day. :shock:
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Don't try to word swap. Originally, it was 'chastised', not supressed. If an opinion is based on mis-truths and not based in fact, than it is, by default, wrong. If someone wants to post in here, and then not be disagreed with, then they're setting themselves up to feel 'chastised'. Opressive law and policies have oppressive beliefs connected to them. In aet, beliefs are discussed, and that's it, because we aren't making policy. It seems odd that you want people to come in here to discuss beliefs, but then play up disagreements like you're being victimized some way. Do you want each thread to have 4 posts in it? "I think this", "well, I think this", "no, I like this way better", "I think Ron Paul said it best..."?[/quote]
Ok...you did say "chastised"...I stand corrected. And I never said I was being victimized...I don't feel victimized by anyone...hence my laughter. I just find it funny (hence my laughter) that conservatives on this forum are treated rather shabbily by the exact same people that demand respect and tolerance for any and every group of people...except conservatives, of course.
I see the word "bigot" thrown around an awful lot around here...usually directed toward anyone that doesn't believe in radical progressive ideology.
I agree that beliefs based on mis-truths are by definition wrong. But on so many of these issues, "truth" is relative. For example, while I'm pretty liberal as far as homosexuality goes, I'm aware of many devoted Christians who are not as liberal because of their religious beliefs. And while some of those people are vicious and hateful people, I believe that a great many of them hold those beliefs with no hate in their hearts. A common mantra I've heard from Christians is "hate the sin...love the sinner." So, in an issue like that, what is "truth"? When talking about God and morality, I don't think any of us can know for sure. And because such issues can't be proven or disproven, it's much easier to label your opponent as a "bigot" and dismiss their opinion as unworthy of being heard.
I'm really not the type of person to feel offended or victimized by much of anything...I just see an awful lot of humor in what I observe here...no more, no less.
Peace!
simplify the whole thing...
sounds super easy...If anyone can do it, I'm sure it's ol' Herman...
he certainly took godfathers from a second rate pizza place to a second rate pizza place with dessert pizza! If he can do that, he can do anything
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Plus his whole 'loyalty oath' thing. Plus the '3 page bills' thing.
How can anyone have a problem with capping the size of bills? All the extra text and fluff to hide the pork and get people to vote on things without any time to read it. We are leaving the laws of the land up to the Senators' and Representatives' Staffers, because they are the only ones that read them anymore.
You didn't say you're being victimized, but conservatives in amt act like they are when they say that they're such a small minority and that they are disrespected by liberals in nearly every one of their posts, which isn't true.
I'm glad God and morality is a grey area for you, but for many conservative Christians, it isn't. They believe that God states that homosexuality is a sin. This belief translates to behaviors that oppresses others and says that the group they are in is less than the majority group. They vote on measures and elect representatives that deny homosexuals the right to marry. You may define hate based on motives, others define hate based on actions. I believe any opinion is worthy of being heard, but it's also going to be questioned and discussed, which is also the point of amt.
Conservative Christians who continue to deny homosexuals rights when presented with the fact that gay and lesbian teens have a higher suicide rate, in my book, are coming from a place of hate and fear. I've seen many able-minded people turn fundamentalist Christian because it gives them an outline on how to manage the grey areas and complexities of life by giving them easy answers. It alleviates their fear and confusion and lowers their emotional tension they have when interacting with the world around them. They tend to want to reduce others ability of thought and experience, but cloak it in what they think God wants.
I'm not sure who's against shorter, more clearly written bills...and it's nice that Herm suggested it, however, I'm not going to cast my vote for him because he's supporting a decent idea...
I will say this, the reasons I will not vote for ol' Herm is based on my experience listening to him when he fill in for the fool boortz on his radio show....
Fact of business, Herm's a little to wingnutty for me...
There is no way I am voting for Cain, but I will give him credit for a good idea, at least in principle. I could settle on more pages, sure, but not tons more. Considering how most of the language of The Constitution restricts government and not the people, these types of laws ARE the ones that I favor. But let's face it, 99% of these people are either complete liars and are bought and paid for, or do not have the leadership ability to follow through on any of their promises. I will not be voting for a candidate from either of the 2 major parties unless their names are Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or maybe Dennis Kuncinich if by some miracle Obama backed out.