2025-2026 NHL Offseason

Meltdown99

F Me In The Brain said:

I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey. 

Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold. 

Same thing with baseball and with football.  I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.

Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.

I hear the Kracken are asking a lot for any side deals…Hope the GMs expose the 8 to 10 million a year players past their prime…

Jumb0

Meltdown99 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey. 

Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold. 

Same thing with baseball and with football.  I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.

Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.

I hear the Kracken are asking a lot for any side deals…Hope the GMs expose the 8 to 10 million a year players past their prime…

Seattle is no doubt seeing what Vegas did and asking for the moon. Hopefully the other 30 GMs are seeing what Vegas did and not budging. 

Meltdown99

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey. 

Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold. 

Same thing with baseball and with football.  I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.

Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.

I hear the Kracken are asking a lot for any side deals…Hope the GMs expose the 8 to 10 million a year players past their prime…

Seattle is no doubt seeing what Vegas did and asking for the moon. Hopefully the other 30 GMs are seeing what Vegas did and not budging. 

I agree.  I am hearing Montreal does not want to lose Jake Allin for nothing.  I wish Montreal would discuss with Price and Weber and leave those  2 unprotected…. I doubt the Kraken would take either of those contracts…then Montreal keeps Allin.  And if the Kraken do bite, I’d be fine with either leaving…i feel doing what’s best for the team should come first and both their contracts will be a headache soon…

I love the red wings tradition.  When they win, the next game the crest side of the jersey faces out, when they lose, the players names face out…the point being is when you win you played for the team, when you lose, you play for yourself.  I’m not sure if they started the tradition…

I feel the same way…

Wonder why Minnesota didn’t just expose Suter and Zack…they likely would have waived the no movement clause…

Meltdown99

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

mrussel1

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

that's a tough break.  It sucks.  I like the guy.  Hedman was playing with a torn meniscus since March which doesnt' surprise me.  He didn't skate at all like he is capable throughout the playoffs.  By contrast, he will not be left unprotected though.

Meltdown99

The cup is repaired and as good as new...

Jumb0

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

dankind

Meltdown99

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

Heres what could happen if Weber retires - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

About 6 million a year.  Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.  

Jumb0

Meltdown99 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

Heres what could happen if Weber retires - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

About 6 million a year.  Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.  

I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA. 

mrussel1

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

Heres what could happen if Weber retires - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

About 6 million a year.  Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.  

I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA. 

I think that if it's reasonable that he would return under that injury then he could go on LTIR.  If it's not, then that's where the dispute could happen.  No?

Meltdown99

mrussel1 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

that's a tough break.  It sucks.  I like the guy.  Hedman was playing with a torn meniscus since March which doesnt' surprise me.  He didn't skate at all like he is capable throughout the playoffs.  By contrast, he will not be left unprotected though.

He'll be missed, especially his leadership.  On the flip side, his 8 million cap hit was going to be a problem down the road...and he is often injured.  Knowing Bergevin he'll either make a trade or try to get Hamilton if he hits FA.  He now has the money to get a guy like Hamilton.

I'm not surprised Hedman played through that injury. Hockey players are a different breed and most are as tough as nails.  Bobby Baun scored a playoff overtime goal for Toronto in the early '60s, with a broken leg...he wouldn't let them x-ray it.  

Jumb0

mrussel1 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

Heres what could happen if Weber retires - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

About 6 million a year.  Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.  

I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA. 

I think that if it's reasonable that he would return under that injury then he could go on LTIR.  If it's not, then that's where the dispute could happen.  No?

If he's eligible to go on LTIR and collect his $12 million/year...why would he outright retire and give that up? 
Especially if there's any chance he could come back at some point. 

Meltdown99

Jumb0 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Jumb0 said:

Meltdown99 said:

NHL: Canadiens' Shea Weber's career in jeopardy due to injury (yahoo.com)

Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca

Looks like Weber's career may be over.  What a warrior...he will be missed.

Now from a sensible point of view.  The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward.  Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.

The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.

If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.

And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed. 


It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you  a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.

Heres what could happen if Weber retires - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

About 6 million a year.  Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.  

I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA. 

I think that if it's reasonable that he would return under that injury then he could go on LTIR.  If it's not, then that's where the dispute could happen.  No?

If he's eligible to go on LTIR and collect his $12 million/year...why would he outright retire and give that up? 
Especially if there's any chance he could come back at some point. 

It’s now in the leagues hand.  And reports are saying that him going on ltir will end up between the league and the NHLPA.  Who says he’ll lose 12 million if he retires?  The Canadiens still need to hire another coach and I’m sure they have front office jobs available…and with this extremely short office season, I suspect Montreal wants that 8 million freed up by FA.  And he can unretire if he becomes healthy enough … reports also say he’s likely done playing…

Jumb0

If he retires he loses his salary. If he goes on LTIR, he still gets paid. 

Also, MTL gets 500k of cap recapture so it's in their best interest too for LTIR

Meltdown99

Jumb0 said:

If he retires he loses his salary. If he goes on LTIR, he still gets paid. 

Also, MTL gets 500k of cap recapture so it's in their best interest too for LTIR

Perhaps you should read my post again.

Big deal if 500k Cap recapture…they still save 7.3 on the salary cap.

If he retires Montreal would likely hire him.  They would pay him, you know that right…so that would replace lost wages.

Jumb0

Meltdown99 said:

Jumb0 said:

If he retires he loses his salary. If he goes on LTIR, he still gets paid. 

Also, MTL gets 500k of cap recapture so it's in their best interest too for LTIR

Perhaps you should read my post again.

Big deal if 500k Cap recapture…they still save 7.3 on the salary cap.

If he retires Montreal would likely hire him.  They would pay him, you know that right…so that would replace lost wages.

They also save his cap hit if he goes on LTIR and I highly doubt MTL is going to give him $6 million for a front office gig...or $3 million next season.  

MayDay10

I think if they gave Weber $6 million to be a glorified intern, the cap circumvention police would be paying them a visit, ha.

Jumb0

MayDay10 said:

I think if they gave Weber $6 million to be a glorified intern, the cap circumvention police would be paying them a visit, ha.

Exactly

Meltdown99

MayDay10 said:

I think if they gave Weber $6 million to be a glorified intern, the cap circumvention police would be paying them a visit, ha.

If he retires and gets hired as a coach then it’s no big deal.  Weber is a team player.  He’ll do what’s best for Montreal…not Nashville.  Nashville were the dummies who decided that contract was worth signing…but I doubt Montreal wants that contract hanging over their head during Free Agency.  The NHL are the dickheads here.  These problems have been with Weber for 3 years.  Nick Kypreos has stated Weber was planning on going on ltir before the pandemic…but the pandemic allowed him 2 shortened seasons and plenty of rest.  The nhl and ltir is Just another example of the nhl being a league that is being run by office temps…

anyone who thought Weber would ever play that contract out to duration have never watched Weber play hockey…which explains the nhls position…I doubt Bettman watches much hockey…he’s just a clown.