2025-2026 NHL Offseason

Bathgate66

:x :x :x

polaris_x

i don't see a resolution unless some owners break rank ...

kenshunt

:fp:

Hartydog

total :fp: Looked at my Google calendar the other day and the Bruins regular season games are starting to show up this week - making me very sad.

Bathgate66

:idea:
for anyone interested,
The KHL is on ESPN 2 tonight @ 8pm
Lev VS Dynamo.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

drivingrl

Hartydog wrote:

total :fp: Looked at my Google calendar the other day and the Bruins regular season games are starting to show up this week - making me very sad.

Yup, I've removed it from my list of calendars as of this morning. Can't even handle it.

keeponrockin

TSN is sadly lacking for programming right now... I mean replaying old World Juniors games? Come on.

polaris_x

keeponrockin wrote:

TSN is sadly lacking for programming right now... I mean replaying old World Juniors games? Come on.

content is everything now ... consider there is TSN, TSN2, Sportsnet, SNET1 ... and that doesn't factor in the specialty channels like Golf ... they are all lacking content ...

kenshunt

polaris_x wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

TSN is sadly lacking for programming right now... I mean replaying old World Juniors games? Come on.

content is everything now ... consider there is TSN, TSN2, Sportsnet, SNET1 ... and that doesn't factor in the specialty channels like Golf ... they are all lacking content ...

sportsnet seems to have all the baseball playoff games, but tsn has nothing basically, they put all their money in the nhl it seems

keeponrockin

With baseball playoffs/NFL going on and the OHL playing just down the street, the NHL can take their time coming back.

Bathgate66

81 wrote:

the only upside to the lockout.......we don't have to hear the rangers fan blabbing :P :wave:

oldest sports thread on here,..

:P

Bathgate66

These guys dont look too busy



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The Alberta Labour Board will rule on the Lockout!

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Weeks after the NHL and NHLPA made their respective cases, the Alberta Labour Relations Board is expected to determine if the current lockout is legal in Alberta on Wednesday, according to the Edmonton Sun.

The NHLPA is hoping the board will stop the lockout in the province because they feel Alberta’s laws regarding a lockout weren’t met by the NHL. The league argued that ultimately all players belong to the same union and the vast majority of the players in the NHLPA are employed by non-Albertan teams.

The NHL will reportedly appeal the ruling if the relations board’s ruling favors the NHLPA.

Meanwhile, the union and league are also expected to resume their CBA negotiations tomorrow, although the major economic issues won’t be part of the talks.

Drowned Out

polaris_x wrote:

keeponrockin wrote:

TSN is sadly lacking for programming right now... I mean replaying old World Juniors games? Come on.

content is everything now ... consider there is TSN, TSN2, Sportsnet, SNET1 ... and that doesn't factor in the specialty channels like Golf ... they are all lacking content ...

There is a local bar here in Edmonton that is running all their usual radio ads, trying to get people thru the doors to watch hockey...but they have audio spliced in over the word 'hockey', using 'televised darts' instead. It would be funny if it wasn't so....shitty.

First snowfall here today.....Since I was a little kid, every single time someone has lamented the first snowfall or coming winter, my instinctual first thought has been 'at least it's hockey season'.....autumn '12 has been no different, except for the disappointment that follows that thought....makes me f'n bitter! :evil:

Dr. Delight

Unreal. It's all about the poorer teams. Also there might be a very good chance that the salary cap will not be coming back whenever this sport finally resurfaces. That would be great.

The Predators are an important component of the NHL lockout, as a small, nontraditional market team that has achieved some level of success.

So the league is trying to look out for Nashville’s interests in the next collective bargaining agreement, NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said in an interview with The Tennessean on Tuesday.

The NHL and NHL Players’ Association are scheduled to meet again today. They’re trying to agree how to divide $3.3 billion in hockey-related revenues.

The NHLPA also has pushed itself as having the best interests of smaller-market teams at heart. It has proposed revenue sharing of $260 million — with $120 million designated for “troubled franchises” to be doled out at the commissioner’s discretion.

The NHL proposal is $190 million but could grow during negotiations, Daly said.

As for hockey-related revenue, the league is proposing it be shifted from 57 percent in the players’ favor (in the final year of the last CBA) to 49 percent (in the first year of the league’s proposal).

Daly said a smaller percentage also would lower the salary cap, which is $70.2 million. The cap is tied to league revenues per the old CBA.

The issue?

A lower cap probably would mean lower salaries. And after taking a 24 percent pay cut at the end of the 2004-05 lockout, that’s something the players probably won’t want.

Here are excerpts from the interview with Daly:

How does your proposal help smaller markets?

“We instituted as part of our last collective bargaining agreement a pretty comprehensive revenue sharing program. That program will produce about $150 million in revenue sharing this past season.

“Our proposal that’s on the table now would increase that pool fairly significantly up in the neighborhood of $190 million, and depending on how the negotiation ultimately plays out, probably more than that.”

How does a higher percentage of hockey-related revenue for the league help the Predators?

“By definition the smaller percentage will lower the cap, which by definition will lower the floor. We’ve also talked about the concept of changing the structure creating the payroll range.

“The payroll range is currently constructed with a midpoint, and then building kind of room off the midpoint in equal directions to have a top end and a bottom end.

“We’re suggesting using less room on the top end and more room on the bottom end as a way of constructing the range that’s more friendly to small markets, but also creates a dynamic where there will be less player escrow, so there will be less dollars at risk for the players.”

Does your proposal address the signing bonuses and long-term contracts that hamper smaller markets?

“Well certainly both those elements are elements we’ve put across the table to the Players’ Association. I can’t say we have resolution Does this lockout hamper smaller, non-traditional markets more than an established, older market?

“I’m not sure I would buy that. I think it’s important for all markets, I think it’s important for the league, I think it’s important for the Players’ Association, I think it’s really important for the players.”

“I think the really unfortunate part of where we are, is not only the fact that we’ve done significant damage to this season’s revenues, but the bottom line is, by missing games, by missing training camp, by being in a labor dispute and a work stoppage, we’re certainly risking and threatening a slowdown to some of the momentum that we’ve had or been able to generate — some of the popularity we’ve been able to build throughout the league, including in some of the non-traditional markets.

“And I think the longer-term impact of that dynamic is as scary as anything else to us, and something we jointly should have an interest in trying to minimize at this point.”on any of those issues, but they certainly know how we feel about some of the extreme front-loaded long-term contracts.”

polaris_x

i don't think it's about small market teams ...

i think the small market teams are the excuse for what the nhl owners really want:

1. to break the union
2. more money - you know that if they create a condition that supports small markets that ultimately, the big market teams will make that much more ... the owners lose any credibility to me unless they are willing to profit share ...

Drowned Out

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think it's about small market teams ...

i think the small market teams are the excuse for what the nhl owners really want:

1. to break the union
2. more money - you know that if they create a condition that supports small markets that ultimately, the big market teams will make that much more ... the owners lose any credibility to me unless they are willing to profit share ...

exactly.....the league itself, and in particular, the small market Canadian teams were in trouble before the lockout. Dollar parity has levelled the field a bit since those crisis days, but the non-hockey revenue brought in by original six teams make it impossible for small market teams to compete in a salary free-for-all. I'm sure the Maple Leafs bring in enough in licensed merch sales alone to crush most small market teams.
That great socialist experiment that is the NFL is a good model for parity. Letting a few teams dominate the league would be a huge mistake.

Bathgate66 wrote:

Meanwhile, the union and league are also expected to resume their CBA negotiations tomorrow, although the major economic issues won’t be part of the talks.

:fp:
WHYYYYYYY?? nothing frustrates me more than the 'let them sweat' tactic....another way of saying 'we don't give a shit about the fans, this is about money'....keep negotiating until its done ffs

norm

CONTRACT 8 TEAMS!!!!

Indifference71

Drowned Out wrote:

Meanwhile, the union and league are also expected to resume their CBA negotiations tomorrow, although the major economic issues won’t be part of the talks.

:fp:
WHYYYYYYY?? nothing frustrates me more than the 'let them sweat' tactic....another way of saying 'we don't give a shit about the fans, this is about money'....keep negotiating until its done ffs[/quote]


My thoughts exactly. The whole thing and the way it is being handled is a complete fucking joke.

Jason P

norm wrote:

CONTRACT 8 TEAMS!!!!

How about any team that plays south of the 36th parallel? I believe that would make eight.

:P

Bathgate66

Drowned Out wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think it's about small market teams ...

i think the small market teams are the excuse for what the nhl owners really want:

1. to break the union
2. more money - you know that if they create a condition that supports small markets that ultimately, the big market teams will make that much more ... the owners lose any credibility to me unless they are willing to profit share ...

exactly.....the league itself, and in particular, the small market Canadian teams were in trouble before the lockout. Dollar parity has levelled the field a bit since those crisis days, but the non-hockey revenue brought in by original six teams make it impossible for small market teams to compete in a salary free-for-all. I'm sure the Maple Leafs bring in enough in licensed merch sales alone to crush most small market teams.
That great socialist experiment that is the NFL is a good model for parity. Letting a few teams dominate the league would be a huge mistake.

Bathgate66 wrote:

Meanwhile, the union and league are also expected to resume their CBA negotiations tomorrow, although the major economic issues won’t be part of the talks.

:fp:
WHYYYYYYY?? nothing frustrates me more than the 'let them sweat' tactic....another way of saying 'we don't give a shit about the fans, this is about money'....keep negotiating until its done ffs

wtf are they worried about extenuating issues,
if they arent fucking playing the game ?
:?:
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