2025-2026 NHL Offseason

drivingrl

lukin2006 wrote:

smarchee wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Mike Smith scores a goal


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... p94-k#t=61

boooooooooooooooooo

I think it's cool ... especially since he shot the puck, and a pretty good shot for a goalie at that ... :thumbup: :thumbup:

All that off season golfing finally pays off.

smarchee

drivingrl wrote:

All that off season golfing finally pays off.

uninnocent-

Since Teemu Selanne is my favourite player, I couldn't say no when I found a good ticket for tonight's Leafs/Ducks game. Gotta go and give the man a standing ovation tonight.

Indifference71

John Scott at it again last night. What a fucking goon.

MayDay10

NBC Sports went embarrassingly over the top demonizing him and the Sabres. Milbury went full retard and was a few steps less professional than Jerry the King Lawler. Keith Jones (cyclops) wasnt much better.

5 years ago, that hit was celebrated.

Mike Milbury also attacked fans with a shoe and also recently verbally assaulted a pee wee hockey player.

NBCSports also billed this as "rivalry night" and played/looped/glorified clips of the Lucic on Miller hit. The hit where they criticized the Sabres to no end for not responding... yet the Bruins were smart and classy for not responding to this hit.

All sorts of contradiction everywhere. NBC Sports is a joke.

Indifference71

MayDay10 wrote:

NBC Sports went embarrassingly over the top demonizing him and the Sabres. Milbury went full retard and was a few steps less professional than Jerry the King Lawler. Keith Jones (cyclops) wasnt much better.

5 years ago, that hit was celebrated.

Mike Milbury also attacked fans with a shoe and also recently verbally assaulted a pee wee hockey player.

NBCSports also billed this as "rivalry night" and played/looped/glorified clips of the Lucic on Miller hit. The hit where they criticized the Sabres to no end for not responding... yet the Bruins were smart and classy for not responding to this hit.

All sorts of contradiction everywhere. NBC Sports is a joke.

Milbury is a clown. But at the same time, Scott is an even bigger clown.

MayDay10

Is he?

He was on the Blackhawks for awhile. He is a good fighter, big guy... But they are acting now as if he is some unhinged uncontrollable monster who has a long history of maiming innocent players.

The ironic part, is the Sabres signed Scott in response to the Bruins and their garbage play and the refusal of the NHL to do anything about it.

And his game really isnt as bad as the flak he is getting.


So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

Indifference71

MayDay10 wrote:

Is he?

He was on the Blackhawks for awhile. He is a good fighter, big guy.

The ironic part, is the Sabres signed Scott in response to the Bruins and their garbage play and the refusal of the NHL to do anything about it.

And his game really isnt as bad as the flak he is getting.


So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

I remember him well from his stint with the Blackhawks. I couldn't stand the guy. He brings absolutely nothing to the table besides fighting. The guy can barely fucking skate. I don't know if I'm anti-goon or not, but it just drives me nuts when your team dresses a guy who has zero offensive ability and only plays 5-6 minutes. Such a waste. Sure, it was nice to watch Scott beat the shit out of someone every now and then, but I'm not sure if winning a fight outweighs the benefits of having a competent player out there.

polaris_x

hockey is such a beautiful game and sport ... even the crappiest players must be able to skate, think, be strong and fit and have good hands ... i don't think there are many sports that match up to hockey ... the fighting is a distraction from what is truly special about hockey ... we have boxing, ufc and wwe if people want to see people get pummeled ... outside of the pros - it's not part of the reason anyone plays the game ...

lukin2006

the nhl used to be a great league up until the ridiculous expansion from 21 teams ... now every team has 3 or more players that belong in the minors ... imho.

lukin2006

MayDay10 wrote:

Is he?

He was on the Blackhawks for awhile. He is a good fighter, big guy... But they are acting now as if he is some unhinged uncontrollable monster who has a long history of maiming innocent players.

The ironic part, is the Sabres signed Scott in response to the Bruins and their garbage play and the refusal of the NHL to do anything about it.

And his game really isnt as bad as the flak he is getting.


So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

They need to do away with instigator rule and a lot of that garbage will end. Before they brought in the instigator rule some of those so called goons were some of the most popular players in the league.

drivingrl

MayDay10 wrote:

Is he?

He was on the Blackhawks for awhile. He is a good fighter, big guy... But they are acting now as if he is some unhinged uncontrollable monster who has a long history of maiming innocent players.

The ironic part, is the Sabres signed Scott in response to the Bruins and their garbage play and the refusal of the NHL to do anything about it.

And his game really isnt as bad as the flak he is getting.


So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

My incredibly biased two cents - being that I'm a Stars fan, a big fan of Loui Erikkson, and not a fan of fighting - is fuck that goon. :evil:

MayDay10

drivingrl wrote:

MayDay10 wrote:

Is he?

He was on the Blackhawks for awhile. He is a good fighter, big guy... But they are acting now as if he is some unhinged uncontrollable monster who has a long history of maiming innocent players.

The ironic part, is the Sabres signed Scott in response to the Bruins and their garbage play and the refusal of the NHL to do anything about it.

And his game really isnt as bad as the flak he is getting.


So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

My incredibly biased two cents - being that I'm a Stars fan, a big fan of Loui Erikkson, and not a fan of fighting - is fuck that goon. :evil:

Since you are a Stars fan, then what do you think of this from a few days ago?
10x worse than Scott's IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnVHnfYSCbs

drivingrl

MayDay10 wrote:

Since you are a Stars fan, then what do you think of this from a few days ago?
10x worse than Scott's IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnVHnfYSCbs

It's terrible. I saw the hit as it happened and I yelled "What the hell was that for?!" I really am not a fan of the fighting.

drivingrl

Ugh. I just want to thwap him upside his head:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/25/garbutt-on-suspension-i-cant-change-the-player-i-am/

:nono:

lukin2006

Islanders acquire Vanek from Sabres

http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/2 ... rom-sabres

I think the sabres did alright in this trade...

smarchee

lukin2006 wrote:

Islanders acquire Vanek from Sabres

http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/2 ... rom-sabres

I think the sabres did alright in this trade...

where will Miller go........

peacefrompaul

Lets go wild

Beat those hawks again :corn:

vant0037

MayDay10 wrote:

So do we and the NHL want to get rid of goons overall? I have always liked goons. It was always the first thing I would check on the lineup sheet going to games: Which fighters the opposing team has. Media though works themselves into fits of rage though when the both "support" and rail against violence.
I do wish there was some way to limit the size. It was much better before goons started to get well above 6'2".

Goonery is very overrated. There's not a player on the ice that can't at least defend themselves in the corner. Goons are simply guys who will take it to the next level and go after someone after the whistle.

John Scott played for the Wild. I also got to watch him as he played in the WCHA for Michigan Tech. He's never been a dirty player, but simply a big kid and so it's assumed he's a fighter. He plays the role, but I don't think there's anything exceptionally dirty about his style. Yet, he'll be made an example of by the league.

NHL politics aside, fighting is extremely overrated. Fans have convinced themselves that fighting adds an element to the game that's not already present, so they conveniently don't have to wonder why they enjoy it so much. Legal, physical play in the corners and on the boards sends just as much of a "message" as a fist after the whistle. Fights after the whistle only encourages players to ignore the rules, and that's how injuries happen. You get guys who aren't normally cheap swinging sticks (ahem, Mr. Kessel). You get guys driving defenseless players into the ice, face first (that's you Mr. Bertuzzi). You get elbows up high. You get concussions. You get injuries. You get below-average players with no particular violent streak in them literally "fighting" to keep a job. Fighting in the league encourages escalation of dangerous play and penalties, both among "enforcers" and among players who want any role on an NHL club, even one they're not used to (think: Adam Burish catching on as a fighter for Chicago in 2007).

I think fans love it out of bloodlust, pure and simple. There's very little strategic value, and as injuries mount from the league's toleration of it, it's ridiculous that it continues.

lukin2006

smarchee wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

Islanders acquire Vanek from Sabres

http://www.thescore.com/home/articles/2 ... rom-sabres

I think the sabres did alright in this trade...

where will Miller go........

not edmonton ... i work with felloww and he was disappointed we he heard miller list edmonton as a team he will not go to, i guess he has listed 8 teams. Pittsburgh?