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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 9,359
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There were always massive upsets - even without the dumb OT loss and shootouts and all that. It's just the nature of the sport.
    Do you have any stats on that?

    from my recollection, it was more difficult to knock out the top teams of the 70s era and earlier, by a massive amount. The Canadians, Bruins, Isles, Flyers, etc did not get upset in the first round iirc. Now it’s common.
    Well the 1970s Flyers (the Bullies of course) generally didn't get upset early in the playoffs, but the 1975 team nearly blew a 3-0 series lead vs. the Islanders. The 1980s & 1990s Flyers (as everyone knows, post-1975, Cupless) were absolutely plagued by upsets - 1981, 1983, 1986, and of course 1996 against the dreadful Florida Panthers who's fans threw about 100,000 plastic rats on the ice. And oh yeah, the 1980 Stanley Cup Finals.

    Also the 1980s Oilers were massively upset in 1982 and 1986 early in the playoffs. Pre-1970s there were only 6 teams so you can't really look for meaningful stats from then. Also Montreal literally had a monopoly on Quebec-born players, per my understanding. Not exactly a fair system.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,648
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    There were always massive upsets - even without the dumb OT loss and shootouts and all that. It's just the nature of the sport.
    Do you have any stats on that?

    from my recollection, it was more difficult to knock out the top teams of the 70s era and earlier, by a massive amount. The Canadians, Bruins, Isles, Flyers, etc did not get upset in the first round iirc. Now it’s common.
    Years ago I tried to do research on NHL playoff styles (I'd have to go back and update some stuff to see what's happened since 2020), and to me it looks like upsets have increased over time:


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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 28,704
    I know you are not saying they are bad....but that would be my question.   Why would upsets be viewed as a bad thing?  Exciting.
    Gotta be the best, at the right time, to win.
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  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,648
    I think upsets are great in every sport.  That whole Miracle on Ice was pretty cool, as well as in the NCAA basketball tournaments. 
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 28,124
    VGK-FLA should be a hell of a series. I hope FLA has cooled off.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 15,216
    Panthers in 6.
    Tkachuk Conn-Smythe winner.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 38,873
    Vegas put a spanking on Dallas last night. Should be a good series especially if you like the nightlife in those two cities. I can see this series going at least six games, probably Florida's gonna win but i'd be ok if Vegas won.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 27,296
    eeriepadave said:
    Vegas put a spanking on Dallas last night. Should be a good series especially if you like the nightlife in those two cities. I can see this series going at least six games, probably Florida's gonna win but i'd be ok if Vegas won.
    Trust me, the nightlife in Sunrise FL is not very good.  You've got the mall in front of you and the Everglades behind you.  
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 28,124
    mrussel1 said:
    eeriepadave said:
    Vegas put a spanking on Dallas last night. Should be a good series especially if you like the nightlife in those two cities. I can see this series going at least six games, probably Florida's gonna win but i'd be ok if Vegas won.
    Trust me, the nightlife in Sunrise FL is not very good.  You've got the mall in front of you and the Everglades behind you.  
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 28,704
    On paper Vegas wins this.  Gotta settle it on ice, though!
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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Posts: 5,900
    I haven’t been less interested in a Stanley Cup final since the horrible trap zone days. Think Dallas vs. New Jersey. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 27,296
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    I haven’t been less interested in a Stanley Cup final since the horrible trap zone days. Think Dallas vs. New Jersey. 
    New Jersey, period, from that era.  
  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,759
    Vegas in 5 or 6.
    I think Bob cools off a bit, or at least touches above average goalieing
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 8,074
    Florida in 6
    on a mission 
  • Jumb0Jumb0 Posts: 830
    edited May 31
    Vegas in 6. 

    As a Predators fan this Panthers run gives me eerily similar vibes to the 2017 playoffs
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 28,704
    F Tkachuk.   Got what he deserved and hurt his team at the same time last night.  I can't stand that guy...no denying he is a good player but he is just such a prick.
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  • HawkshoreHawkshore Posts: 2,123
    F Me In The Brain said:
    F Tkachuk.   Got what he deserved and hurt his team at the same time last night.  I can't stand that guy...no denying he is a good player but he is just such a prick.
    The apple doesn't fall from the tree with him, he has way better offensive skill than his old man but in terms of being a prick on the ice he is just like him
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 27,296
    edited 4:52PM
    Hawkshore said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    F Tkachuk.   Got what he deserved and hurt his team at the same time last night.  I can't stand that guy...no denying he is a good player but he is just such a prick.
    The apple doesn't fall from the tree with him, he has way better offensive skill than his old man but in terms of being a prick on the ice he is just like him
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