Lethargic Vancouver crowd

lgarveylgarvey Posts: 10
edited September 2011 in Given To Fly (live)
Solid setlist but when three people around you are sitting down during Porch, you know it's a subpar crowd. I was embarrassed and Eddie even called out people in the first row for being lame. Again, fantastic setlist but the crowd did not do it justice.
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  • haha , Edmonton should show them how to do it!!
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  • Yeah, he'd probably call out any crowd after Edmonton :lol:
  • Yeah, the crowd at the last Vancouver show was soooo much better. When Even Flow doesnt get everybody jumping, we've got problems. The sing alongs were pretty weak as well.
  • MudfestMudfest Posts: 1,025
    edmonton crowd amazing..calgary very good...Vancouver real bad
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  • Its because all those Seattle people came tonight, at a smaller venue like the Pacific Coliseum 10C took over and a lot of the people I talked to were from Seattle. I myself was rocking out the entire night!
  • JMoJMo Posts: 1,071
    I was in a pretty rockin' section! There were a few bad apples but a pretty good crowd.

    Ps if you win the lottery, you better go out of your fucking mind crazy up there!
  • gpudgpud Vernon, BC, Canada Posts: 12
    I was in row 36, but going bananas. In my section, I just don't think a lot of people know the catalogue like I do.

    I've been unfaithful. I let my 10C lapse and now I'm in the boondogs. However, tonight I rocked out more than any other show I've been to. Reading that the front was lame is disheartening.
  • halvhalv Posts: 703
    edited September 2011
    I've was at the Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton shows and the crowds at all of these were way more into it than tonights in Vancouver. All of those shows felt like celebrations and 2.5 hour standing ovations, but tonight they seemed to be playing to a spoiled crowd. The band tried hard and gave the crowd lots of rarities but the reaction was weak. I was in row 16 and was shocked how the rows in front me of were so motionless.

    This being said the band killed and it was my first time hearing Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns and Mankind live, not too mention Ole.
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  • Yes WayYes Way Posts: 453
    Lethargic Threads

    These pop up after every show, and they're annoying. Ed called out the front rows, but that's lottery, right? All I know is that everyone around me (14th row) was losing it the entire time, people were digging the rarities, and it was a lot of fun. I don't know about the other shows, and I don't care. Same stuff was posted here after Seattle in 2009, and all I saw was a lot of people having fun there too.

    Besides, do we all need to have the same reaction to satisfy the crowd judgers? Please. The crowd was loud, the show was great, and people had a great time. Can't that be enough?
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  • acutejamacutejam Posts: 1,433
    I had ADA wheelchair seats right next to the cash only merch stands in the back, so good view of the entire crowd. Stone's side on the floor was crazier than Mike's. And there were just these pockets of non-craziness. Folks in wheelchairs around us were rockin out harder.

    Now I think eddie's call out was simply playin to the folks in rear, "we should get some of the folks from the back up here..." but there was some truth to it, a bit. He was raggin on someone... And then he spewed wine on them.... Lol.

    When the lights came up, that place was pretty rockin, but yeah for the most part only the front third was really into it. Only the up high back corners were sitting for a bit as far as I could tell, everyone standing straight back to us, lots of head bobbin, but not a lot of arms raised, fists pumping, hair flyin mayhem.

    But c'mon, no daughter, better man, nothing man ... None of the real sing alongs. But Alive was the proof, really weak shouts at the end. Eddie tried a bit of call and response at one point that went nowhere....

    And I had told my wife to get ready for a stadium singing every word loud and proud, and afterwards she said, meh, we sang louder at Rush! (NICE WALK OUT MUSIC BY THE WAY... Tom Sawyer!)

    I will say, a very polite crowd, not a lot of the unruly meatheads staggering around. So there's that.
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  • Jesus H. Tremor Christ. The crowd was fine. The whole floor was pumping just like always. Some of the upper sections were sitting, but so what? I had a great view of the front row and 80% of them were out of their minds. A few guys were just watching but when did not waving become a crime?

    The chemistry at a show is always delicate, the mix of songs and venue and sound and location. This was not the best crowd I've seen but it was still a great crowd and a fantastic show.

    And blaming it on Seattle, get a life. I wasn't offended by what Eddie said, he was just playing the crowd.
  • Yes Way wrote:
    Lethargic Threads

    Besides, do we all need to have the same reaction to satisfy the crowd judgers? Please. The crowd was loud, the show was great, and people had a great time. Can't that be enough?


    Crowds are a personal thing. For some people a dead crowd can literally kill a show experience. The best shows I've been to have been the ones where the crowds are absolutely into it. Setlists are great on paper and certainly make a big difference when it comes to bootlegs, but crowd energy is really important to me when I see the band live. I consider myself fortunate that most of the Pearl Jam shows I've been to have had incredible crowd energy. My favorite show was Kitchener 2005; a show that when you look at the setlist or listen to the boot isn't particularly special but the crowd was into it and the arena was tiny.

    If Crowd energy isn't important to you, that's probably to your advantage. For me, a great crowd is essential. Still, I have a hard time believing that Vancouverites couldn't get into a set that was this amazing.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Jesus H. Tremor Christ. The crowd was fine. The whole floor was pumping just like always. Some of the upper sections were sitting, but so what? I had a great view of the front row and 80% of them were out of their minds. A few guys were just watching but when did not waving become a crime?

    The chemistry at a show is always delicate, the mix of songs and venue and sound and location. This was not the best crowd I've seen but it was still a great crowd and a fantastic show.

    And blaming it on Seattle, get a life. I wasn't offended by what Eddie said, he was just playing the crowd.

    Well said. I was up front and every one was killing it except for this small group right in front of Ed towards Stone. It was loud around me and the crowd was great. Amazing show.
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  • halv wrote:
    I've was at the Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton shows and the crowds at all of these were way more into it than tonights in Vancouver. All of those shows felt like celebrations and 2.5 hour standing ovations, but tonight they seemed to be playing to a spoiled crowd. The band tried hard and gave the crowd lots of rarities but the reaction was weak. I was in row 16 and was shocked how the rows in front me of were so motionless.

    This being said the band killed and it was my first time hearing Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns and Mankind live, not too mention Ole.

    Honestly, I think you're going to get some people in Van who are more into the idea of going to a Pearl Jam concert than they are the actual concert ... Not saying the whole city either, just the vapid Yaletown crowd that I had the misfortune to live near when I was there for internship. The crowds on the Prairies were better, though, at least in 2005 and 2011. Apparently the Van crowd in 2009 was awesome, so who knows?
  • rockpantsrockpants BC Posts: 838

    Honestly, I think you're going to get some people in Van who are more into the idea of going to a Pearl Jam concert than they are the actual concert ... Not saying the whole city either, just the vapid Yaletown crowd that I had the misfortune to live near when I was there for internship

    SO. MUCH. THIS.

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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,882
    Thats a shame that it was a weak crowd to close out the Canadian tour...especially w/ an awesome setlist like that.
  • The crowd wasn't weak around me at all. And looking around throughout the night, I thought most people were into it.

    The crowd just wasn't as LOUD.

    Reasons: Not enough beer, End of tour letdown, Sunday night end of weekend blues and anticipation of getting back to the "real" world on Monday, more rarities. I don't think I cheer loud for Unemployable but I certainly enjoyed it. And maybe some old Seattle guys who were in shock that they were moshing 20 years ago and suddenly realized that they were losing hair and having issues with erectile dysfunction amongst other things.

    To say the crowd was a letdown is all relative. A couple of people not moving shouldn't speak for everyone. It's like this: Eddie was talking about America throughout the show and pointing out shit that troubled him. He wasn't pasting that label on all Americans, in fact he appreciated the ones there. I was surrounded by 1000's of cool Americans. In fact, some asshole Canadian got kicked out in front of me. There are always a few in a crowd. But it was a damn good crowd, just not loud.

    Lethargic.... that's a nice word though.
  • rockpants wrote:

    SO. MUCH. THIS.

    "Yaletown. Genuine people. Ample parking." <-- A friend of mine was wearing that highly sarcastic shirt a few years ago right in the midst of Yaletown, and some insecure yuppie tried to fight him. Seriously. It's pathetic, sad, and hilarious.

    :lol::lol:
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  • AndySlashAndySlash Posts: 3,263
    i figured everyone was just stoned
  • The crowd wasn't lethargic, but for sure the lowest energy I have seen at a Vancouver PJ concert. Our Vancouver crowds are known to be awesome, so yeah it was a bit disappointing. But I think it's because there was a very high percentage of non-Vancouverites there last night, for sure way more than any other PJ concert in Vancouver.
    2 years ago, when they played Seattle just because Vancouver, Ed called out Seattle at the Vancouver show and said Vancouver's crowd is always much better than the Seattle crowd, seems perhaps we had too many Seattle-ites there last night.
    I agree with some of the other posts that when they play Van they should try to do Seattle at the same time, I got sucky 10C tix, and I see that it's because everyone from out of town got the choices seats - it's nice that some people are able to travel to see multiple shows, but some of us only get to see them at home, and it would be nice to be able to get good tix rather than them all going to out-of-towners.
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    pathetic that it was the last show of the tour in canada and people were there but NOT REALLY THERE. :thumbdown:
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  • was a B- crowd, nowhere near as bad as some are saying.
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  • I was really disapointed with the crowd. Especially after such a kick ass crowd in Edmonton. Quiet, standing still, and just blankly watching. The setlist saved that show for sure.
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  • The arena looked like it had been hot boxed. Everybody was stoned. Poor Canadians getting bad seats because we came to Canada. I was more into the show than what the others were doing but it was nice to hear Ed sing more than just hearing the person behind me screaming the lyrics.
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  • FIrst off, this show was great specially for the setlist. The band played awesome song that don't get played as much as some people would want them to. Yet, there were a lot of people just standing or sitting not doing much. The worst part of this is that a lot of these people were on 10c seats that some of us would love to have. You can search some youtube videos and check out the front rows in front of Ed and Stone. For us who enjoyed the show, it was great and we'll be waiting for the band to come back.
  • NumberTenOxNumberTenOx Posts: 93
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  • I was there and first rows where just too lame, was really close on the side of the stage to see all thing.
    How the hell you can be so close to the stage and just stand like you don't even care, I am glad that Ed did what he did, they should be a shamed for what they did or should I say for what they didn't do.

    Anyway don't about Seattle crowd, never been to Seattle show, I only heard in 3 different occasion same story from 3 different person (one US, one Can. one EU) and they all told me that Seattle shows were the worst because the crowd was lame, now like I said I never been to the any of these shows but seems to odd to me that they all had a same opinion.
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Yes Way wrote:
    Lethargic Threads

    These pop up after every show, and they're annoying. Ed called out the front rows, but that's lottery, right? All I know is that everyone around me (14th row) was losing it the entire time, people were digging the rarities, and it was a lot of fun. I don't know about the other shows, and I don't care. Same stuff was posted here after Seattle in 2009, and all I saw was a lot of people having fun there too.

    Besides, do we all need to have the same reaction to satisfy the crowd judgers? Please. The crowd was loud, the show was great, and people had a great time. Can't that be enough?
    Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

    These judging crowd threads and discussions are lame. Ed's too.

    I thought the show was absolutely mind blowing and I saw nothing but really happy and excited people. Not a single other people in the crowd ruined my great time. And to start a thread about this just because Ed said something rude the folks in the first row - now it's hip to start threads about it? Pretty lame thread, and pretty lame of Ed to keep hounding Seattle crowds and the first row of the Vancouver crowd.

    Seriously, no better way for Ed to really turn the band's hometown against them.

    When he ripped Seattle a new one in Vancouver of 2009, it made me not want to go see Pearl Jam in Portland of that year. His comments really were hurtful about the band's hometown. Maybe if Key Arena wasn't filled with so many of their friends and family members, it would have been a better crowd in his mind. Also, maybe if these shows were not on a Sunday night, that also would have helped the vibe.
  • JensPorchJensPorch NorCal Posts: 15
    These judging crowd threads and discussions are lame. Ed's too.

    I thought the show was absolutely mind blowing and I saw nothing but really happy and excited people. Not a single other people in the crowd ruined my great time. And to start a thread about this just because Ed said something rude the folks in the first row - now it's hip to start threads about it? Pretty lame thread, and pretty lame of Ed to keep hounding Seattle crowds and the first row of the Vancouver crowd.
    I agree! I hesitate to say this but I won the lottery & I was in the first row! I was so happy to be there, but I didn't know I was going to be judged on whether or not I deserved to be there, by the band or anyone else. I sang my head off, jumped and danced when I wasn't in plain awe of being that close to the band that I have been obsessed with for 20 years! I was pretty bummed by all the comments & judging on the forums after the show & on Monday. Glad to be away from it a little and realize it's only rock & roll. Other than all this the show was amazing-ironically I came away loving Ole! :lol:
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  • What exactly constitutes the proper (acceptable to others) way to enjoy one's self at a show?

    Really?
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