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  • moozeekfan
    moozeekfan Posts: 195
    edited June 2020
    Going to concerts and sporting events will be last among the things to resume in society.  Concert venues will need financial help in the meantime, either through government assistance, or concertgoers.  Can you buy some merch right now since you’re not spending money on tickets currently?
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  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    moozeekfan said:
    Going to concerts and sporting events will be last among the things to resume in society.  Concert venues will need financial help in the meantime, either through government assistance, or concertgoers.  Can you buy some merch right now since you’re not spending money on tickets currently?
    Are you implying that I haven't been doing so already? What gives you that idea? I'm not buying those ugly Vans though.
  • cottagesteeze
    cottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.
    You are incorrect, disbanding does not mean there will be no police. Please do your own research instead of relying on those of us on a PJ forum to educate you on the topic. 1 example is Camden, NJ where homicides dropped dramatically after the police were disbanded.

    https://www.newsweek.com/minneapolis-not-first-disband-police-department-1509327
  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.

    "Defund" or "disband" mean the same thing.  It does not mean, as your comment implies, that Minneapolis will be an unpoliced city.  It typically means a new police organization will be created.  No one is suggesting that this move means there will be no police.  Not sure where that came from.






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  • moozeekfan
    moozeekfan Posts: 195
    disilluzion said:
    moozeekfan said:
    Going to concerts and sporting events will be last among the things to resume in society.  Concert venues will need financial help in the meantime, either through government assistance, or concertgoers.  Can you buy some merch right now since you’re not spending money on tickets currently?
    Are you implying that I haven't been doing so already? What gives you that idea? I'm not buying those ugly Vans though.
    Whoa...easy there tiger.  I just made a general comment about what people could do during these times.  It wasn’t directed negatively towards anybody.
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  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    cottagesteeze said:
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.
    You are incorrect, disbanding does not mean there will be no police. Please do your own research instead of relying on those of us on a PJ forum to educate you on the topic. 1 example is Camden, NJ where homicides dropped dramatically after the police were disbanded.

    https://www.newsweek.com/minneapolis-not-first-disband-police-department-1509327
    It does if they do not replace them. And what research would you like me to do, considering that this just happened last night and no one (as of my post) knows what's going to happen? Just b/c Camden disbanded and then rebuilt from the ground up doesn't mean that Mpls. will. Maybe it's better to talk to fellow level-headed Minnesotans than try and sort through all the fake news that's out there? If it's that much of a bother to reply to me, go ahead and block me and you'll never have to again.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    vant0037 said:
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.

    "Defund" or "disband" mean the same thing.  It does not mean, as your comment implies, that Minneapolis will be an unpoliced city.  It typically means a new police organization will be created.  No one is suggesting that this move means there will be no police.  Not sure where that came from.






    Defund means to divert money into other agencies. Disband means cease to exist. Far from the same thing. It could mean what I imply, we simply don't know yet. Or maybe they do know now, as I haven't checked the news in a while. It came from people shouting they don't want police in their city anymore, followed by said disbanding of the MPD, with them stating it was too late for reform.
  • disilluzion
    disilluzion Posts: 1,015
    moozeekfan said:
    disilluzion said:
    moozeekfan said:
    Going to concerts and sporting events will be last among the things to resume in society.  Concert venues will need financial help in the meantime, either through government assistance, or concertgoers.  Can you buy some merch right now since you’re not spending money on tickets currently?
    Are you implying that I haven't been doing so already? What gives you that idea? I'm not buying those ugly Vans though.
    Whoa...easy there tiger.  I just made a general comment about what people could do during these times.  It wasn’t directed negatively towards anybody.
    You're right, you didn't quote me. My mistake.
  • vant0037
    vant0037 Posts: 6,170
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.

    "Defund" or "disband" mean the same thing.  It does not mean, as your comment implies, that Minneapolis will be an unpoliced city.  It typically means a new police organization will be created.  No one is suggesting that this move means there will be no police.  Not sure where that came from.






    Defund means to divert money into other agencies. Disband means cease to exist. Far from the same thing. It could mean what I imply, we simply don't know yet. Or maybe they do know now, as I haven't checked the news in a while. It came from people shouting they don't want police in their city anymore, followed by said disbanding of the MPD, with them stating it was too late for reform.
    Still not accurate.  Disband literally means to disband the current organization.  Defund is part of that process.  Your stated implication that Minneapolis will not be safe for a show because there is not a police force is incorrect.
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  • vant0037
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    vant0037 said:
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    disilluzion said:
    vant0037 said:
    That’s not what defunding the police means...
    Who's talking about defunding? Last night, the city council agreed to disband. If I'm wrong, then please, educate me.

    "Defund" or "disband" mean the same thing.  It does not mean, as your comment implies, that Minneapolis will be an unpoliced city.  It typically means a new police organization will be created.  No one is suggesting that this move means there will be no police.  Not sure where that came from.






    Defund means to divert money into other agencies. Disband means cease to exist. Far from the same thing. It could mean what I imply, we simply don't know yet. Or maybe they do know now, as I haven't checked the news in a while. It came from people shouting they don't want police in their city anymore, followed by said disbanding of the MPD, with them stating it was too late for reform.
    Still not accurate.  Disband literally means to disband the current organization.  Defund is part of that process.  Your stated implication that Minneapolis will not be safe for a show because there is not a police force is incorrect.
    It’s worth reading what the council actually said.  No one, save for some corners of politics and politicians who would rather blow a dog whistle than actually think this through, is suggesting that there will simply be no police.
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  • CM189191
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    disilluzion said:
    As long as they play St. Paul and not Mpls. Not sure I'd want to visit an unpoliced city. I guess my last show at First Ave was actually my last show at First Ave.
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