hey guys thanks for your thoughts and understanding! Yes for sure....its not a fair level playing field anymore!
Remember....My govt. tells me that i cannot hire them...but i must compete against them! WOW
Well some people will never get it.....our own people are being squeezed out of trade work in our own backyard on our own soil! Its a shame, that within 4 years i went from a strong happy motivated business owner....to a delapidated, weak and beaten handyman! Thats what happened to me in 4 years on our soil!
I have worked harder than anyone.....see my work at http://www.concrete-enhancements.com
you will see the level of skill and strength it takes to do what i have done!
Very talented!
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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Oh lovely...here comes another endless us vs them rant. Why don't we start up Civil War II while we're at it. That would be a hoot. Or- here's a novel idea- how about some useful, constructive suggestions about how to move forward... withour bashing each other or other ethic groups (yes, that did happen- the post was deleted). What about the ideas posed by McKibben in the quote I posted above? Or is that just not confrontational enough?
If i recall correctly.....the only divisive and offensive talk was from the liberal Democrat who said that i was bigoted! They were completely wrong and if you go back and read the original post...you would see!
Exposing the typical liberal on this site is like getting a lollypop at the bank! YAY!
"typical liberal" + "lollypop at bank" + "YAY"
You really expect a serious answer to this kind of baiting? :?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
You are calling me a liar? My girlfriend is from Cameroon! She has lived here for 2 years! I love her! We love each other! Her name is Miry! I helped her assimilate here the right way due to my "love of country" and strong faith! How can you call me bullshit without even knowing! You must be a libtard!
My girlfriend and I are Pro Life Christian Conservatives! We are people of Faith!
I love Pearl Jam! I love America! I love the Steeelers!
There are conservatives out there who love other races and shine our lights to everyone! Thats me!
I suspect he was merely questioning your bedroom stamina, though I could be wrong.
My testimony is that i must shed light on how much i have changed since 2007! I was a small business entrepereneur in construction and concrete restoration when the recession hit. I had a big house with a gf and her two children. I was happy and raising a family in one of the nicest places on earth! Business for my line of services dropped off overnight! It was like a switch! We lost the house due to no depth, credit or savings. We were thin from the get go! We were still young and growing. The winters here can be tough with no work from Thanksgiving to February and sometimes March. I remember having to go to the local church and stand in line for food. Talk about a humbling experience that was. Here i am .....young, vibrant, entrepreneurial, strong and independent.....and standing in line for food at the church. That was a life changer, and that entire winter was a test that i dont want to endure again.
I live in an area where i am a minority when it comes to construction services. I compete against hispanics and undocumented workers. I am a small time guy that has always been one of the "have nots" but always worked hard and tried to be personally responsible! It has been increasingly difficult to maintain that motivation! My govt. tells me that i cannot hire illegals, but i have to compete against them. The playing field is not level at all or even close to being level. I continue to lose jobs and estimates to the illegals who can do the work for much less. Its a constant balancing act when giving my estimates to my customers. Win some, lose many! I havent been able to actually put a business together again. I am just a handyman now...struggling with trying to just make it, let alone hiring a legal citizen on and running a business legitamately! Legally and ethically i cannot compete and make it! There is a brotherhood amongst my competition that just overrides my hard work ethic! I cannot compete against them because their cost of living and way of life is much less than mine! They have guys to do the work for much less! In this economy im doomed!
I have downsized so much ....i dont have anything left to enjoy! My TV is as deep as it is wide! My car and work van are beaters! I pay for everything cash....i cannot get loans!
I have learned to live for less....and accept that i wont own a home!
I say reform immigration and give them a path to citizenship now! Bring soldiers home from Iraq and put a division down on the border now! Stop the influx, create path to citizenship, bring in tax revenues! Hold all accountable like we all are held! Make this playing field....LEVEL!
The Democratic Party is using this issue as a tool and expedience! NO GOOD! I can see it and feel it! Easy to see!
You have been out sourced in your own country, as I was. I had a nail salon, worked as a nail tech for 20 years, raised my son as a single mom. I had no money problems. Over a course of about five years, Asians had a Nail Salon on every corner under cutting everyone. Americans chose the cheap salons and most American Nail tech left the business. Buy American! Americans
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
hey guys thanks for your thoughts and understanding! Yes for sure....its not a fair level playing field anymore!
Remember....My govt. tells me that i cannot hire them...but i must compete against them! WOW
Well some people will never get it.....our own people are being squeezed out of trade work in our own backyard on our own soil! Its a shame, that within 4 years i went from a strong happy motivated business owner....to a delapidated, weak and beaten handyman! Thats what happened to me in 4 years on our soil!
I have worked harder than anyone.....see my work at http://www.concrete-enhancements.com
you will see the level of skill and strength it takes to do what i have done!
There are many people to blame for the recession problems I suppose. Sometimes it seems that illegal workers have nothing to do with it. It's the often rich republicans that hire them and then turn around and complain that are to blame in my opinion. But it's hard to say what your exact situation is or where you live, hopefully it's not horrible Arizona. Hopefully things get better for you and you are able to one day see the entire picture from a different view.
My testimony is that i must shed light on how much i have changed since 2007! I was a small business entrepereneur in construction and concrete restoration when the recession hit. I had a big house with a gf and her two children. I was happy and raising a family in one of the nicest places on earth! Business for my line of services dropped off overnight! It was like a switch! We lost the house due to no depth, credit or savings. We were thin from the get go! We were still young and growing. The winters here can be tough with no work from Thanksgiving to February and sometimes March. I remember having to go to the local church and stand in line for food. Talk about a humbling experience that was. Here i am .....young, vibrant, entrepreneurial, strong and independent.....and standing in line for food at the church. That was a life changer, and that entire winter was a test that i dont want to endure again.
I live in an area where i am a minority when it comes to construction services. I compete against hispanics and undocumented workers. I am a small time guy that has always been one of the "have nots" but always worked hard and tried to be personally responsible! It has been increasingly difficult to maintain that motivation! My govt. tells me that i cannot hire illegals, but i have to compete against them. The playing field is not level at all or even close to being level. I continue to lose jobs and estimates to the illegals who can do the work for much less. Its a constant balancing act when giving my estimates to my customers. Win some, lose many! I havent been able to actually put a business together again. I am just a handyman now...struggling with trying to just make it, let alone hiring a legal citizen on and running a business legitamately! Legally and ethically i cannot compete and make it! There is a brotherhood amongst my competition that just overrides my hard work ethic! I cannot compete against them because their cost of living and way of life is much less than mine! They have guys to do the work for much less! In this economy im doomed!
I have downsized so much ....i dont have anything left to enjoy! My TV is as deep as it is wide! My car and work van are beaters! I pay for everything cash....i cannot get loans!
I have learned to live for less....and accept that i wont own a home!
I say reform immigration and give them a path to citizenship now! Bring soldiers home from Iraq and put a division down on the border now! Stop the influx, create path to citizenship, bring in tax revenues! Hold all accountable like we all are held! Make this playing field....LEVEL!
The Democratic Party is using this issue as a tool and expedience! NO GOOD! I can see it and feel it! Easy to see!
You have been out sourced in your own country, as I was. I had a nail salon, worked as a nail tech for 20 years, raised my son as a single mom. I had no money problems. Over a course of about five years, Asians had a Nail Salon on every corner under cutting everyone. Americans chose the cheap salons and most American Nail tech left the business. Buy American! Americans
I guess if you were undercut by white people it would be called competition?
how does something so personal and touching get ruined by something so hateful and disgusting.
:roll:
I went back and read this 3 times. How you can even say that? Un documented workers have effected the construction industry in a very negative way. The op said that he"s in favor of some kind of path to citizenship program. Not once did he use any racial slurs or anything like that. Sounds like your the typical liberal democrat who can't wait to play the race card or call someone a hater just bcos you disagree with them without even knowing the facts.
Thank you my friend! You have just exposed the typical liberal democrat! I was awaiting someones response! I even said "undocumented worker" and thats what the hispanics would have wanted. I am friends with Guatemalans and Mexicans! They like me! I have many Asian friends! My girlfriend is from Africa! I make love to a black woman everyday! I couldnt wait for the typical liberal to say this, and i couldnt wait for you to expose them! Now i will respond back.....some are correct on here.....both parties are responsible for past results and failures! Equally to blame! HOWEVER, the Democratic Party is using this issue for future race and bigotry accusations just like the example we saw here! I am a Christian Conservative Pro Lifer who is in love with a black woman and has hispanic and asian friends! LOL We have exposed the typical liberal here completely! I wish the whole world could see this one!
They are using the media and the bias tools along with bigotry and race allegations to divide this great country.....all for votes next year and political gains for themselves! SICK and SAD! I wish Pearl Jam would be smart enough to see this and the political correctness brought on from liberalism! I pray that miracles happen......i believe they are!
What you said earlier was that you compete against "hispanics and undocumented workers". What's implied in that is that if they're Hispanic, then they're an illegal. You didn't say that you compete against whites, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics, as well as undocumented workers. Your statement could be seen as racist or prejudice because it supports the common assumption that most Hispanics in the U.S. are illegal. It looks like you played the race card first.
You also used the term "assimilate" in relation to your girlfriend. Typically, assimilation is not seen as a good thing, and it's used for someone who has abandoned their cultural roots (by force or choice, or a combination of the two) in order to fit into the majority culture. Maybe I'm just picking at word usage.
how does something so personal and touching get ruined by something so hateful and disgusting.
:roll:
I went back and read this 3 times. How you can even say that? Un documented workers have effected the construction industry in a very negative way. The op said that he"s in favor of some kind of path to citizenship program. Not once did he use any racial slurs or anything like that. Sounds like your the typical liberal democrat who can't wait to play the race card or call someone a hater just bcos you disagree with them without even knowing the facts.
Thank you my friend! You have just exposed the typical liberal democrat! I was awaiting someones response! I even said "undocumented worker" and thats what the hispanics would have wanted. I am friends with Guatemalans and Mexicans! They like me! I have many Asian friends! My girlfriend is from Africa! I make love to a black woman everyday! I couldnt wait for the typical liberal to say this, and i couldnt wait for you to expose them! Now i will respond back.....some are correct on here.....both parties are responsible for past results and failures! Equally to blame! HOWEVER, the Democratic Party is using this issue for future race and bigotry accusations just like the example we saw here! I am a Christian Conservative Pro Lifer who is in love with a black woman and has hispanic and asian friends!LOL We have exposed the typical liberal here completely! I wish the whole world could see this one!
They are using the media and the bias tools along with bigotry and race allegations to divide this great country.....all for votes next year and political gains for themselves!SICK and SAD! I wish Pearl Jam would be smart enough to see this and the political correctness brought on from liberalism! I pray that miracles happen......i believe they are!
anyone else getting the picture of Tom Arnold typing this post in their head...or at the very least Chris Farley posing as Tom Arnold.
That isn't a shot by the way Fear, I just have never seen so much excitement in one post
One thing you can always be sure on, is that people will use anything for political gain, whether it be the fear of illegal immigrants, or the protection of them...both are often used as political tools to lock up votes. If anyone actually cared something would have been done long ago, at least that is my opinion on it. Not sure why we don't just let people get guest worker status. There needs to be a way to cross the border, work, and go back home eventually without a problem. This isn't just a problem for illegal immigrants either. Professionals from all over the world have trouble coming here to work and stay. My buddy got sent back to Canada because of the issue. Strange. We get a lot more security over who would come in, they could have their own tax rate with no deductions or loop holes, but would not pay into payroll tax for social security. Seems win win to me.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I went back and read this 3 times. How you can even say that? Un documented workers have effected the construction industry in a very negative way. The op said that he"s in favor of some kind of path to citizenship program. Not once did he use any racial slurs or anything like that. Sounds like your the typical liberal democrat who can't wait to play the race card or call someone a hater just bcos you disagree with them without even knowing the facts.
Thank you my friend! You have just exposed the typical liberal democrat! I was awaiting someones response! I even said "undocumented worker" and thats what the hispanics would have wanted. I am friends with Guatemalans and Mexicans! They like me! I have many Asian friends! My girlfriend is from Africa! I make love to a black woman everyday! I couldnt wait for the typical liberal to say this, and i couldnt wait for you to expose them! Now i will respond back.....some are correct on here.....both parties are responsible for past results and failures! Equally to blame! HOWEVER, the Democratic Party is using this issue for future race and bigotry accusations just like the example we saw here! I am a Christian Conservative Pro Lifer who is in love with a black woman and has hispanic and asian friends!LOL We have exposed the typical liberal here completely! I wish the whole world could see this one!
They are using the media and the bias tools along with bigotry and race allegations to divide this great country.....all for votes next year and political gains for themselves!SICK and SAD! I wish Pearl Jam would be smart enough to see this and the political correctness brought on from liberalism! I pray that miracles happen......i believe they are!
anyone else getting the picture of Tom Arnold typing this post in their head...or at the very least Chris Farley posing as Tom Arnold.
That isn't a shot by the way Fear, I just have never seen so much excitement in one post
One thing you can always be sure on, is that people will use anything for political gain, whether it be the fear of illegal immigrants, or the protection of them...both are often used as political tools to lock up votes. If anyone actually cared something would have been done long ago, at least that is my opinion on it. Not sure why we don't just let people get guest worker status. There needs to be a way to cross the border, work, and go back home eventually without a problem. This isn't just a problem for illegal immigrants either. Professionals from all over the world have trouble coming here to work and stay. My buddy got sent back to Canada because of the issue. Strange. We get a lot more security over who would come in, they could have their own tax rate with no deductions or loop holes, but would not pay into payroll tax for social security. Seems win win to me.
My testimony is that i must shed light on how much i have changed since 2007! I was a small business entrepereneur in construction and concrete restoration when the recession hit. I had a big house with a gf and her two children. I was happy and raising a family in one of the nicest places on earth! Business for my line of services dropped off overnight! It was like a switch! We lost the house due to no depth, credit or savings. We were thin from the get go! We were still young and growing. The winters here can be tough with no work from Thanksgiving to February and sometimes March. I remember having to go to the local church and stand in line for food. Talk about a humbling experience that was. Here i am .....young, vibrant, entrepreneurial, strong and independent.....and standing in line for food at the church. That was a life changer, and that entire winter was a test that i dont want to endure again.
I live in an area where i am a minority when it comes to construction services. I compete against hispanics and undocumented workers. I am a small time guy that has always been one of the "have nots" but always worked hard and tried to be personally responsible! It has been increasingly difficult to maintain that motivation! My govt. tells me that i cannot hire illegals, but i have to compete against them. The playing field is not level at all or even close to being level. I continue to lose jobs and estimates to the illegals who can do the work for much less. Its a constant balancing act when giving my estimates to my customers. Win some, lose many! I havent been able to actually put a business together again. I am just a handyman now...struggling with trying to just make it, let alone hiring a legal citizen on and running a business legitamately! Legally and ethically i cannot compete and make it! There is a brotherhood amongst my competition that just overrides my hard work ethic! I cannot compete against them because their cost of living and way of life is much less than mine! They have guys to do the work for much less! In this economy im doomed!
I have downsized so much ....i dont have anything left to enjoy! My TV is as deep as it is wide! My car and work van are beaters! I pay for everything cash....i cannot get loans!
I have learned to live for less....and accept that i wont own a home!
I say reform immigration and give them a path to citizenship now! Bring soldiers home from Iraq and put a division down on the border now! Stop the influx, create path to citizenship, bring in tax revenues! Hold all accountable like we all are held! Make this playing field....LEVEL!
The Democratic Party is using this issue as a tool and expedience! NO GOOD! I can see it and feel it! Easy to see!
You have been out sourced in your own country, as I was. I had a nail salon, worked as a nail tech for 20 years, raised my son as a single mom. I had no money problems. Over a course of about five years, Asians had a Nail Salon on every corner under cutting everyone. Americans chose the cheap salons and most American Nail tech left the business. Buy American! Americans
I guess if you were undercut by white people it would be called competition?
Hey dummy! Its not a color thing.....its a legal thing! Illegals have all the advantages and therefore the playing field is not level for me! Got it yet or do i need to go deeper?
Remember i said....my govt. tells me that i cannot hire them, however i must compete against them!
Theres no time like the present
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
Hey dummy! Its not a color thing.....its a legal thing! Illegals have all the advantages and therefore the playing field is not level for me! Got it yet or do i need to go deeper?
Remember i said....my govt. tells me that i cannot hire them, however i must compete against them!
2 full time jobs and no respect. if you're competing against them you obviously aren't working hard enough. they work hard, no doubt.,
a working class hero is something to be...john lennon.
I'm one of the ones who was living FAR, FAR below my means during the good times. My house payment was only a little over 10% of my take home pay and I had a big emergency fund saved up.
I lost my job earlier this year and it took me about 3.5 months to land another one. Luckily, I never felt the financial pinch.
The new job pays me about 20% less so I'm thankful I had the restraint to live at a modest level and can still easily make my house payment, etc.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You have been out sourced in your own country, as I was. I had a nail salon, worked as a nail tech for 20 years, raised my son as a single mom. I had no money problems. Over a course of about five years, Asians had a Nail Salon on every corner under cutting everyone. Americans chose the cheap salons and most American Nail tech left the business. Buy American! Americans
I guess if you were undercut by white people it would be called competition?
Hey dummy! Its not a color thing.....its a legal thing! Illegals have all the advantages and therefore the playing field is not level for me! Got it yet or do i need to go deeper?
Remember i said....my govt. tells me that i cannot hire them, however i must compete against them!
Hey silly, you do need to go deeper into your own thought/belief system. Illegals don't have all the advantages, unless you mean working for low pay in unsafe conditions as all the advantages. You also made it a "color thing" when you said you compete against Hispanics and illegals. Aeriel didn't make any reference to illegals in his/her post, so for aeriel, it also sounds like a "color thing".
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Very talented!
"typical liberal" + "lollypop at bank" + "YAY"
You really expect a serious answer to this kind of baiting? :?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I suspect he was merely questioning your bedroom stamina, though I could be wrong.
You have been out sourced in your own country, as I was. I had a nail salon, worked as a nail tech for 20 years, raised my son as a single mom. I had no money problems. Over a course of about five years, Asians had a Nail Salon on every corner under cutting everyone. Americans chose the cheap salons and most American Nail tech left the business. Buy American! Americans
There are many people to blame for the recession problems I suppose. Sometimes it seems that illegal workers have nothing to do with it. It's the often rich republicans that hire them and then turn around and complain that are to blame in my opinion. But it's hard to say what your exact situation is or where you live, hopefully it's not horrible Arizona. Hopefully things get better for you and you are able to one day see the entire picture from a different view.
I guess if you were undercut by white people it would be called competition?
What you said earlier was that you compete against "hispanics and undocumented workers". What's implied in that is that if they're Hispanic, then they're an illegal. You didn't say that you compete against whites, blacks, Asians, and Hispanics, as well as undocumented workers. Your statement could be seen as racist or prejudice because it supports the common assumption that most Hispanics in the U.S. are illegal. It looks like you played the race card first.
You also used the term "assimilate" in relation to your girlfriend. Typically, assimilation is not seen as a good thing, and it's used for someone who has abandoned their cultural roots (by force or choice, or a combination of the two) in order to fit into the majority culture. Maybe I'm just picking at word usage.
anyone else getting the picture of Tom Arnold typing this post in their head...or at the very least Chris Farley posing as Tom Arnold.
That isn't a shot by the way Fear, I just have never seen so much excitement in one post
One thing you can always be sure on, is that people will use anything for political gain, whether it be the fear of illegal immigrants, or the protection of them...both are often used as political tools to lock up votes. If anyone actually cared something would have been done long ago, at least that is my opinion on it. Not sure why we don't just let people get guest worker status. There needs to be a way to cross the border, work, and go back home eventually without a problem. This isn't just a problem for illegal immigrants either. Professionals from all over the world have trouble coming here to work and stay. My buddy got sent back to Canada because of the issue. Strange. We get a lot more security over who would come in, they could have their own tax rate with no deductions or loop holes, but would not pay into payroll tax for social security. Seems win win to me.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I'm getting more of a Matt Foley vibe.
Hey dummy! Its not a color thing.....its a legal thing! Illegals have all the advantages and therefore the playing field is not level for me! Got it yet or do i need to go deeper?
Remember i said....my govt. tells me that i cannot hire them, however i must compete against them!
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
a working class hero is something to be...john lennon.
I lost my job earlier this year and it took me about 3.5 months to land another one. Luckily, I never felt the financial pinch.
The new job pays me about 20% less so I'm thankful I had the restraint to live at a modest level and can still easily make my house payment, etc.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Hey silly, you do need to go deeper into your own thought/belief system. Illegals don't have all the advantages, unless you mean working for low pay in unsafe conditions as all the advantages. You also made it a "color thing" when you said you compete against Hispanics and illegals. Aeriel didn't make any reference to illegals in his/her post, so for aeriel, it also sounds like a "color thing".