Missing Boy in Sparwood, BC... weird? thoughts?

haffajappa

Everyone including me is happy that he is home safe... But am I the only one who finds there to be something extremely odd about this case?

Besides my subjective view that the father seemed oddly calm in the interviews while his kid was missing (and really it is hard to say how anyone deals with that situation) ...The boy gets abducted from the house with no forced entry while his 2 parents and 7 siblings are home, then the abductor eludes police and returns the boy back to the home without anyone knowing... This is in a small town supposedly surrounded by police investigating, not to mention 2 provinces and one state on Amber Alert looking for the suspect who hasn't been seen at all...

That's not to say Randall Hopley didn't do it but it's all so weird.....

AY268609

Wow, the boy was returned home, thats bizzar. I am in Australia, but listen to the Team 1040 and herd the amber alerts all day, Had to explain to the boys at work what that was. Last I heard they thought he was on a B.C Ferry., was that was Friday afternoon Vancouver time. Did they ever find the brown car?? or the guy they were looking for?

haffajappa

AY268609 wrote:

Wow, the boy was returned home, thats bizzar. I am in Australia, but listen to the Team 1040 and herd the amber alerts all day, Had to explain to the boys at work what that was. Last I heard they thought he was on a B.C Ferry., was that was Friday afternoon Vancouver time. Did they ever find the brown car?? or the guy they were looking for?

No that's the thing, the is only a suspect since no one actually saw him take or return the boy... No one has seen him at all

polaris_x

the thing with the suspect is ... if he didn't take the boy ... where the cuss is he?

even flow - question mark

All I know is that if I need to sneak anywhere without anybody knowing, I'll have Hopley in tow.


Some things just don't add up and that kid somehow getting back into his house with nobody, not even one cop seeing it go down is unreal. Did the parents hide the kid in the attic and then bring him out for a good story?

blackredyellow

I don't know much about this situation at all, except reading a few stories, but the first thing I thought of was that balloon boy thing a couple years ago, where the parents did it for attention.

catefrances

community finds out that there is a predator in their midst

community not happy


small child disappears from upstairs bedroom


BOLO put out on randall hopley as possible suspect despite no one seeing him enter or leave the house with small child.

family plead with kidnapper to return the child


childs father leaves house unlocked and empty in hopes abductor will return the child


police get tipoff from anonymous source that says the child has been returned to empty and 'seemingly' unattended house.


again no one saw randall hopley entering with child in arms or exiting


hopley found 2 days later


father expresses relief and happiness for the community and is extremely happy hopley has been caught.



hmmm :think:

guitar59

Well they caught Hopley today. Dogs tracked him and he is in custody. But I agree, fishy tale going on here.

haffajappa

Everyone is all "yA! they caught the fucker!"
I mean, not saying that he isn't guilty... But really, what if he has been set up? It's like an angry mob with pitchforks I just hope that he is indeed the right person (if there was a person at all!)

catefrances

haffajappa wrote:

Everyone is all "yA! they caught the fucker!"
I mean, not saying that he isn't guilty... But really, what if he has been set up? It's like an angry mob with pitchforks I just hope that he is indeed the right person (if there was a person at all!)

i find it incredibly difficult to believe that the police werent monitoring the house after the fathers plea. it all seems a little too convenient that no one saw him come and go. i dont buy that whole, who knew hed return the child to the place he abducted him from. id like conclusive evidence please.

haffajappa

catefrances wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

Everyone is all "yA! they caught the fucker!"
I mean, not saying that he isn't guilty... But really, what if he has been set up? It's like an angry mob with pitchforks I just hope that he is indeed the right person (if there was a person at all!)

i find it incredibly difficult to believe that the police werent monitoring the house after the fathers plea. it all seems a little too convenient that no one saw him come and go. i dont buy that whole, who knew hed return the child to the place he abducted him from. id like conclusive evidence please.

i mean that's what i'm saying.
unless this guy admits to it (even then i'm sort of wishy washy, because i think i read somewhere his iq isn't that high - which makes the fact he eluded police even more sketchy) what evidence do they have that he took the kid? and it just so happens the 3 year old can't talk... so how would they be able to pin it on him with no evidence that he took him?

its messed up right?!

catefrances

haffajappa wrote:

catefrances wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

Everyone is all "yA! they caught the fucker!"
I mean, not saying that he isn't guilty... But really, what if he has been set up? It's like an angry mob with pitchforks I just hope that he is indeed the right person (if there was a person at all!)

i find it incredibly difficult to believe that the police werent monitoring the house after the fathers plea. it all seems a little too convenient that no one saw him come and go. i dont buy that whole, who knew hed return the child to the place he abducted him from. id like conclusive evidence please.

i mean that's what i'm saying.
unless this guy admits to it (even then i'm sort of wishy washy, because i think i read somewhere his iq isn't that high - which makes the fact he eluded police even more sketchy) what evidence do they have that he took the kid? and it just so happens the 3 year old can't talk... so how would they be able to pin it on him with no evidence that he took him?

its messed up right?!

a 3 year old who cant talk?? again... convenient.

even if his IQ was high, if there were police monitoring of the house.. either with a physical presence or electronically whhoever returned the child would have been caught.. or at least caught on tape. and amazing that the father said he(hopley) didnt break in to return the child.. cause hed elft the house unlocked. i mean what a weird ting to say.. who cares if he broke in or not to return the child. irrelevant really.

haffajappa

catefrances wrote:

a 3 year old who cant talk?? again... convenient.

even if his IQ was high, if there were police monitoring of the house.. either with a physical presence or electronically whhoever returned the child would have been caught.. or at least caught on tape. and amazing that the father said he(hopley) didnt break in to return the child.. cause hed elft the house unlocked. i mean what a weird ting to say.. who cares if he broke in or not to return the child. irrelevant really.

Yet everyone is going on about how great the father is and how composed and articulate he is...
Its all that anyone is talking about, how amazing this family is and how great and smart this father is...
Truly if they are telling the truth and Hopley DID do it then the father really is articulate and smart; but I just want people to tkae a step back and ask some obvious questions!!

guitar59

catefrances wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

catefrances wrote:

i find it incredibly difficult to believe that the police werent monitoring the house after the fathers plea. it all seems a little too convenient that no one saw him come and go. i dont buy that whole, who knew hed return the child to the place he abducted him from. id like conclusive evidence please.

i mean that's what i'm saying.
unless this guy admits to it (even then i'm sort of wishy washy, because i think i read somewhere his iq isn't that high - which makes the fact he eluded police even more sketchy) what evidence do they have that he took the kid? and it just so happens the 3 year old can't talk... so how would they be able to pin it on him with no evidence that he took him?

its messed up right?!

a 3 year old who cant talk?? again... convenient.

even if his IQ was high, if there were police monitoring of the house.. either with a physical presence or electronically whhoever returned the child would have been caught.. or at least caught on tape. and amazing that the father said he(hopley) didnt break in to return the child.. cause hed elft the house unlocked. i mean what a weird ting to say.. who cares if he broke in or not to return the child. irrelevant really.

And why was no one home? These cases, when a stranger takes a child, rarely have such a happy ending. I am glad the kid is safe, but it would not shock me to find out that everything was not as they said it was.

brianlux

blackredyellow wrote:

I don't know much about this situation at all, except reading a few stories, but the first thing I thought of was that balloon boy thing a couple years ago, where the parents did it for attention.

I was just thinking the same thing.

catefrances

haffajappa wrote:

catefrances wrote:

a 3 year old who cant talk?? again... convenient.

even if his IQ was high, if there were police monitoring of the house.. either with a physical presence or electronically whhoever returned the child would have been caught.. or at least caught on tape. and amazing that the father said he(hopley) didnt break in to return the child.. cause hed elft the house unlocked. i mean what a weird ting to say.. who cares if he broke in or not to return the child. irrelevant really.

Yet everyone is going on about how great the father is and how composed and articulate he is...
Its all that anyone is talking about, how amazing this family is and how great and smart this father is...
Truly if they are telling the truth and Hopley DID do it then the father really is articulate and smart; but I just want people to tkae a step back and ask some obvious questions!!

we'll see how smart the father is once the police start asking some hard questions. theyre not fools. i imagine theyre allowing him to bask in the glory and get comfortable if they suspect this is all bullshit.

haffajappa

catefrances wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

catefrances wrote:

a 3 year old who cant talk?? again... convenient.

even if his IQ was high, if there were police monitoring of the house.. either with a physical presence or electronically whhoever returned the child would have been caught.. or at least caught on tape. and amazing that the father said he(hopley) didnt break in to return the child.. cause hed elft the house unlocked. i mean what a weird ting to say.. who cares if he broke in or not to return the child. irrelevant really.

Yet everyone is going on about how great the father is and how composed and articulate he is...
Its all that anyone is talking about, how amazing this family is and how great and smart this father is...
Truly if they are telling the truth and Hopley DID do it then the father really is articulate and smart; but I just want people to tkae a step back and ask some obvious questions!!

we'll see how smart the father is once the police start asking some hard questions. theyre not fools. i imagine theyre allowing him to bask in the glory and get comfortable if they suspect this is all bullshit.

Well that's the other thing I really don't understand.
Either the father is up to something, or the police are inept.
If the police don't pursue it or investigate, I assume they are alright with being inept.

And the guy is speaking out against the justice system (Ok, I don't have many quams about that... Our justice system can be a little lax...) maybe it was all a stunt to show the justice system what's what? Or prove his faith in jesus? I don't know

catefrances

haffajappa wrote:

Well that's the other thing I really don't understand.
Either the father is up to something, or the police are inept.
If the police don't pursue it or investigate, I assume they are alright with being inept.

And the guy is speaking out against the justice system (Ok, I don't have many quams about that... Our justice system can be a little lax...) maybe it was all a stunt to show the justice system what's what? Or prove his faith in jesus? I don't know

i dont think the police are inept. theyre allowing the father to do his thing. and gathering evidence to make sure either they can stick this abduction to hopley or go after the father. they have to be sure either hopley did this.. or the whole thing was a setup. either way, itll get done. they need to find out who the anonymous tipper was.