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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Rick Perry, "I am always going to error on the side of life".

    Tell that to the 230+ people who had your signature on their death warrant.
    :clap::clap:

    and what about continuing needless wars and occupations? death occurs there every day...


    We need Dems to switch over for the primary and vote for Ron Paul, we can't take a chance on Perry getting the nom. Obama is not being challenged, so if he would lose at least it would be to someone who wants to end the wars, instead of escalating them.

    I don't agree with everything Ron Paul says, you probably will never meet another person that you agree with completely, but we can't afford more wars.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Where were all the racist rednecks and their miss-spelled signs last night? According to what I've read on this forum, the crowd attire should have been chalk-full of KKK hoodies and tobacco-stained wife-beaters. Strangely enough, Karl Childers was nowhere to be seen.
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  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    they were more than covered by these fuckfaces:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 59354.html
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    The people cheering were the same ones booing Ron Paul for speaking of our failed foreign policies from what I've read on another forum from someone who was there.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    I love this...it was 2-3 people who screamed "Yeah!" and a little groan from most of the crowd, but it's being reported as the Tea Party crowd cheers death of 30 year old without insurance!!! :lol:
    hippiemom = goodness
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    Jason P wrote:
    Where were all the racist rednecks and their miss-spelled signs last night? According to what I've read on this forum, the crowd attire should have been chalk-full of KKK hoodies and tobacco-stained wife-beaters. Strangely enough, Karl Childers was nowhere to be seen.
    karl childers is in a home for hacking that dude's face off with a sling blade...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I love this...it was 2-3 people who screamed "Yeah!" and a little groan from most of the crowd, but it's being reported as the Tea Party crowd cheers death of 30 year old without insurance!!! :lol:


    what else would you expect?
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    so ... basically dr. paul's response is to hope that some charitable group or friends/families pay to save this hypothetical man's life ... what i find interesting is:

    1. he advocated the man get an insurance plan after saying the system is geared to favour the insurance companies

    2. if friends/families are left to pay the medical costs of the uninsured man - how many more bankruptcies are we going to see? ... many medical treatments cost so much that not many middle-class/poor families could afford to pay for that ...
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I love this...it was 2-3 people who screamed "Yeah!" and a little groan from most of the crowd, but it's being reported as the Tea Party crowd cheers death of 30 year old without insurance!!! :lol:


    what else would you expect?

    The majority of the crowd boo'd when Ron Paul spoke of failed foreign policy. Enough said....
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    polaris_x wrote:
    so ... basically dr. paul's response is to hope that some charitable group or friends/families pay to save this hypothetical man's life ... what i find interesting is:

    1. he advocated the man get an insurance plan after saying the system is geared to favour the insurance companies

    2. if friends/families are left to pay the medical costs of the uninsured man - how many more bankruptcies are we going to see? ... many medical treatments cost so much that not many middle-class/poor families could afford to pay for that ...


    The reality of it is that right now you need a policy, he conceded that.

    But he has also made it well know that if things were run right costs would go down. He said that there is no competition so doctors can charge what they want, and are not worried about the insurance companies paying it. When he was practicing he never accepted Medicare, but he kept his rates low so the office visit was barely more than a co-pay costs now. Now the entire industry is out of control, he is simply calling for an overhaul.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    unsung wrote:
    The reality of it is that right now you need a policy, he conceded that.

    But he has also made it well know that if things were run right costs would go down. He said that there is no competition so doctors can charge what they want, and are not worried about the insurance companies paying it. When he was practicing he never accepted Medicare, but he kept his rates low so the office visit was barely more than a co-pay costs now. Now the entire industry is out of control, he is simply calling for an overhaul.

    i agree wholeheartedly that the system needs to be blown up and that the special / corporate interests are the ones being served now ... where i differ from paul is that i think health care should be nationalized and run by the gov't .. and that for the majority of care - covered by the gov't ... obviously, it has to be run as efficiently as possible with the public and taxpayers interest at heart and not drug companies or the like ...

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