Peter Travers of Rolling Stone - “Oscar, don’t be stupid.”
A video rant from the film critic of Rolling Stone, telling Oscar voters that ignoring 'Guaranteed' would be stupid...
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/01/04/peter-travers-video-plea-oscar-dont-be-stupid/
http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/01/04/peter-travers-video-plea-oscar-dont-be-stupid/
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On 'No Country': Amen brotha.
Are you freaking kidding me?!! NCFOM was by far the best movie of the year. I don't think I've ever been in a movie where the audience was so quiet and attentive during the tense scenes. I've seen it twice already and it's even better and more nuanced the second time. The ending is a little jarring at first (trying to avoid spoilers here) but it makes a lot of sense the second time around. It seems most people unhappy with the ending wanted a more conventional, typical Hollywood ending.
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Ending aside, what about the scene where he's trying to get the money out of the AC vent while Bardem is in his old motel room? Jesus Christ, that was the most tense scene I've seen since the drug deal in Boogie Nights. Even people I've talked to that didn't care for the ending usually agree that the other hour and half was pretty awesome. You're making this sound way more "artsy" than it actually is. A good chunk of the middle is a pretty standard (though really really well done) chase picture.
tommy lee jones dream that he shares with his wife at the end was fuckin stupid...
i actually really liked the scene with the quarter flip in that old convenient store... it went on too long and was pointless... but i dunno... and the whole movie sortof had the same vibe but didnt work for me the same... its a confusing movie... i guess the fact that it hurts my brain is a good thing tho
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Not at all sure that ITW will even get nominated in Best Film, though Sean Penn might as he is in the DGA nominations.
still..I think Ed has good chances for a nomination..winning, it's another matter..but who cares? he'll play anyway
now is there a jammer with Sky Premiere and no or understanding flatmates (since it's in the middle of the night) to host an Oscar Party in London??
A bunch of tense scenes strung together doesn't necessarily make a good story. How can I get behind a movie where the only thing even close to a protagonist is knocked off halfway through the film. To much killing without much story- that's my feeling. What's the point? The world is a fucked up and violent place and its getting worse not better? No thanks- I've got the front page of the local paper for that...
If the overall pessimistic theme of the picture doesn't sit well, I can understand that. But I really feel this is much, much more than a "bunch of tense scenes strung together," I think it's a brilliant story of a guy trying to make sense of a world he doesn't understand anymore, nestled away in a great chase thriller. Although I do think there's actually a bit of optimism in the last scene where he recounts the dream.
And even if you do consider Josh Brolin the protagonist (though I clearly don't), that's kind of an arbitrary reason to dislike a film anyway. Ever heard of a little movie called Psycho? Anyway, plenty of movies/stories are centered around an antagonist and are pretty universally regarded as well.
But if you just say you don't like it because of its pessimism, I really can't argue with that. The last line of the movie is one of the more "downer" last lines of recent memory.
I think people hated the ending (or the movie) because the story wasn't totally wrapped up for them. Sheriff Bell's retelling of his dream at the end fit in perfectly to the movie.
Here was a man, completely torn apart from what he's seen. It's broken him down so badly, he's trying to contemplate between "going out riding" or staying home and doing household chores.
It was the best movie I've seen in some time.
But, I also respect others' opinions.
So, are you suggesting that there is no protagonist or only an antagonist? I don't really think you can call TLJ a protagonist in this movie as he plays such a small role in the overall story. And you have to have a protagonist to have an antagonist. Anyways, just because something is universally regarded, doesn't mean its good or I have to like it. Anyway, as it comes to art as enrichment it has no value to me. If, as you say, it is about an old man trying to make sense of a world he doesn't understand anymore- a theme I think almost anyone not pathological can relate to- then watching a ruthless heartless killer brutalize and kill people for two and half hours brings me no closer to enlightenment.
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jwillmo is right. this movie is awesome.
the whole movie is about fate. the fact that the "good guy" (if you mean someone who steals millions of dollars is the "good guy") doesn't win is the point: the complete unpredictability of things.
in the book Chigurh actually gets caught by the cops in order to see if he is supposed to escape. cue first scene.
you are kidding right? there couldn't be a movie without these central tenets, especially the coin toss and the car accident!!!
they are the entire POINT of the movie.
The movie was 122 minutes long.
The car crash scene with Chigurh was again showing how fate can intervene on just about anybody. IMO, Chigurh was very perplexed (if that's the right word) at how his meeting with Carla Jean went. The fact that she refused to participate in his coin flip game set him off, and I believe certainly distracted him. His continuing to stare at the boys on the bike, which lead to the accident showed this. I think it showed that even this evil man is susceptible to fate.
The scene with the old man in the gas station was fantastic, if not unnerving. I think it showed the audience what we were dealing with in Chigurh, and how his mind works. He had probably made up his mind that he was going to kill this man, but decided to give him a chance instead. Again, fate. He let a coin flip decide. If the man chooses tails, he's done.
Anyway, I'm sorry you had to sit a 2 1/2 hour cut of this film, maybe that soured your view. The version I saw was only a couple of minutes over two hours.
This movie is just so rich with little things like this, I guess that's why I feel the need to defend it so.
agreed, if you dont leave that film feeling absolutely disgusted you have no soul. period.
as for guaranteed winning best song i would love it but i think it would destroy eddies street cred and im kinda torn because id really like to see one of the songs from once win....
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theres things you need to see and things you dont need to see and if you think that all this killing was for no reason you obviously missed the point of the whole story and need to watch the movie again or better yet google Hermatia and the heroes flaw, maybe that will give you a better idea...
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there was like 3 songs in that movie that could easily win best song
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yeah totally man !! plus im pretty sure at least one song from once will get nominated (falling slowly) and for once there would be 2 performances worth watching!!!! Eddie as well as Glen Hansard and Marketa Iglova !!
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oh yeah, and there's something sinister about his mustache...
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