Home› A Moving Train

Rapper saz F**k the Troops ????

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited September 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/20 ... test=faces

this guy's an idiot.

Godfather.
Post edited by Unknown User on

Comments

  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,676
    aren't all rappers idiots?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    no most are really smart people. this guy is a joke and it has nothing to do with what he said.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,676
    fife wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    no most are really smart people. this guy is a joke and it has nothing to do with what he said.

    mensa members for sure :roll: :roll: :roll:
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Godfather. wrote:
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
    Ice-T? Didn't he write Cop Killer or something like that? But you had a beer with him so he's cool?
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,819
    pjhawks wrote:
    fife wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    no most are really smart people. this guy is a joke and it has nothing to do with what he said.

    mensa members for sure :roll: :roll: :roll:

    Go check out The GZA (The Genius), particularly his album Liquid Swords! That guy is no idiot. Awesome wordplay and delivery all the time. There are thousands of people who rap and can express it intelligently in rhyme or in normal conversation. If you hate the artform, that's one thing-- but you don't think everyone who raps is an idiot, do you?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,676
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Go check out The GZA (The Genius), particularly his album Liquid Swords! That guy is no idiot. Awesome wordplay and delivery all the time. There are thousands of people who rap and can express it intelligently in rhyme or in normal conversation. If you hate the artform, that's one thing-- but you don't think everyone who raps is an idiot, do you?

    well if you go around and call yourself The GZA (the Genius) then yes i think you are an idiot just for that reason. but hey don't mind me i think at least 80% of the people in the world are idiots for one reason or another. :D and i never said i hated the art form. i think it takes a real talent to write and perform it even if i don't listen to it. i respect how hard it is. i don't think anyone could do it.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    CH156378 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
    Ice-T? Didn't he write Cop Killer or something like that? But you had a beer with him so he's cool?
    yep I was at the show that he played the song after the police asked him not to plat it, the bill was Metallica and Ice -T I had back stage passes and ended up at his tent and he invited me in for a beer and we shot the shit about music and san diego local bands...if he were to pat you on the back you would list it on your resume' :lol: actuall a very cool guy and yes because I said so...so he is. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,819
    pjhawks wrote:
    well if you go around and call yourself The GZA (the Genius) then yes i think you are an idiot just for that reason.

    Touche'! Can't say I fully disagree! :lol:

    Check him out anyway. This is one of my favorites, "LABELS" => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFnMZVqInaw

    Very clever.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    CH156378 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
    Ice-T? Didn't he write Cop Killer or something like that? But you had a beer with him so he's cool?
    And the Boss wrote songs about serial killers, some sympathetic. Idk why people are much more critical of rap lyrics than others.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,862
    keeponrockin wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
    Ice-T? Didn't he write Cop Killer or something like that? But you had a beer with him so he's cool?
    And the Boss wrote songs about serial killers, some sympathetic. Idk why people are much more critical of rap lyrics than others.
    It can lack a certain subtlety. Rap or hip hop is so much more in your face.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    mickeyrat wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    And the Boss wrote songs about serial killers, some sympathetic. Idk why people are much more critical of rap lyrics than others.
    It can lack a certain subtlety. Rap or hip hop is so much more in your face.

    sometimes whitey be needing it in the face... you know what im sayin'


    :lol:

    yeah im so white its not even funny.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 41,862
    catefrances wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    And the Boss wrote songs about serial killers, some sympathetic. Idk why people are much more critical of rap lyrics than others.
    It can lack a certain subtlety. Rap or hip hop is so much more in your face.

    sometimes whitey be needing it in the face... you know what im sayin'


    :lol:

    yeah im so white its not even funny.
    hehehehehe. I know what you mean.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,728
    My guess is most of us would agree this is not about rap- it is about an artist who made a bad choice.
    That's putting it very nicely.

    I'm against war. In fact, I'm totally against war. But I'm not against our troops. I have family member who did three tours in Iraq. I don't support what went on over there but I totally support our troops.

    Soulja Boy's choice of words was not a spur of the moment decision. At one time or another, we've all said something in which we didn't quite mean the way it came out. This is not the case here. Soulja Boy had an opportunity to make a statement againt war and instead made a statement againt people. My not-so-nice thoughts about that? F**k that.
    "Don't give in to the lies.  Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth.  And to hope."
    -Jim Acosta











  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I will not buy a Soulja Boy cd or listen to his music...

    Of course that was my position before I even saw this thread.

    And how stupid is it that a guy who calls himself Soulja Boy, is apparently anti soldier.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    blackredyellow wrote:
    ...
    And how stupid is it that a guy who calls himself Soulja Boy, is apparently anti soldier.

    yes that thought occurred to me. then i found this in the urban dictionary:


    Soulja or Souljah
    Not to be (stereotypically)confused with Jesus freaks or aimless gang members, A Soulja, is anyone who has gone through hard times and fought against adversity. A Soulja's strength comes from within, strength of mind, body, soul, and character. A true Soulja would have learned from his/her mistakes, taken responsibility for his/her actions and gained strength to never back down. Someone who knows no limits to his/her own power and God given abilities. A person who serves their people, lives by a strict code, and is never afraid to stand up for what they believe in. Someone who is willing to fight for their home, family, property, etc, but is not necessarily part of a conventional service (Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, etc).
    A Soulja cannot be defined by race, age, background, location, or economic status.


    and this:

    Usually a man who grew up on the streets. Slang for "soldier" like in the army. Battles in combats knows how to use a gun to kill. Their ghetto being their "turf" or warzone.


    and this:

    A term that used to deem some respect before it was coined by a sellout and made into a dance.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,728
    catefrances wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    ...
    And how stupid is it that a guy who calls himself Soulja Boy, is apparently anti soldier.

    yes that thought occurred to me. then i found this in the urban dictionary:


    Soulja or Souljah
    Not to be (stereotypically)confused with Jesus freaks or aimless gang members, A Soulja, is anyone who has gone through hard times and fought against adversity. A Soulja's strength comes from within, strength of mind, body, soul, and character. A true Soulja would have learned from his/her mistakes, taken responsibility for his/her actions and gained strength to never back down. Someone who knows no limits to his/her own power and God given abilities. A person who serves their people, lives by a strict code, and is never afraid to stand up for what they believe in. Someone who is willing to fight for their home, family, property, etc, but is not necessarily part of a conventional service (Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, etc).
    A Soulja cannot be defined by race, age, background, location, or economic status.

    Given that, imagine how much more support this artist would have gotten had he chosen his words more carefully. Could this have been a very big missed opportunity?
    "Don't give in to the lies.  Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth.  And to hope."
    -Jim Acosta











  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    blackredyellow wrote:
    ...
    And how stupid is it that a guy who calls himself Soulja Boy, is apparently anti soldier.

    yes that thought occurred to me. then i found this in the urban dictionary:


    Soulja or Souljah
    Not to be (stereotypically)confused with Jesus freaks or aimless gang members, A Soulja, is anyone who has gone through hard times and fought against adversity. A Soulja's strength comes from within, strength of mind, body, soul, and character. A true Soulja would have learned from his/her mistakes, taken responsibility for his/her actions and gained strength to never back down. Someone who knows no limits to his/her own power and God given abilities. A person who serves their people, lives by a strict code, and is never afraid to stand up for what they believe in. Someone who is willing to fight for their home, family, property, etc, but is not necessarily part of a conventional service (Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, etc).
    A Soulja cannot be defined by race, age, background, location, or economic status.

    Given that, imagine how much more support this artist would have gotten had he chosen his words more carefully. Could this have been a very big missed opportunity?

    probably. but sometimes our mouth moves into gear before our brain.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/09/06/soulja-boy-apologizes-after-members-armed-forces-slam-his-anti-military-song/?test=faces

    this guy's an idiot.

    Godfather.
    ...
    Same tactic used by the Westboro Baptist Church. Which, apparently... WORKS.
    No one would even have heard of this dick if he hadn't said this... yet... there it is.
    All about publicity.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,522
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    Simple answer: no.
    severed hand thirteen
    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
    2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    fife wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    no most are really smart people. this guy is a joke and it has nothing to do with what he said.

    This!

    KRS-One and Chuck-D are smart!
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,676
    keeponrockin wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    online I will go as far to say.......I don't care for rap hip hop rymin or what ever it's called,although I have had a beer with Ice-T and I liked hanging with him,a very cool person for sure... but the music just don't do it for me.

    Godfather.
    Ice-T? Didn't he write Cop Killer or something like that? But you had a beer with him so he's cool?
    And the Boss wrote songs about serial killers, some sympathetic. Idk why people are much more critical of rap lyrics than others.

    because it's way more prevalent in rap music/lyrics. even the example used in this thread (GZA, the Genius) i listened to about the 1st 30 seconds and turned it off because heard the N-word at least 2 or 3 times (at work so started it low then kind of had to turn that off).
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    pjhawks wrote:
    aren't all rappers idiots?

    No, they're not.

    Listen to some Public Enemy if you need confirmation of this.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Our society is so full of a false sense of "outrage". Items like these are stories, not because people care, but simply because it's a way to scold others - no matter how good or bad the comments are. Who cares what a some random person says or thinks.. it has zero meaning... but talking bout it or bringing more light to it, only gives it value. And in all seriousness, if you look to musicians, politicians, sports stars or any other "famous" person for morality and similar, perhaps you should figure things out on your own and aren't exactly the beacon of intelligence yourself.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,728
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Our society is so full of a false sense of "outrage". Items like these are stories, not because people care, but simply because it's a way to scold others - no matter how good or bad the comments are. Who cares what a some random person says or thinks.. it has zero meaning... but talking bout it or bringing more light to it, only gives it value. And in all seriousness, if you look to musicians, politicians, sports stars or any other "famous" person for morality and similar, perhaps you should figure things out on your own and aren't exactly the beacon of intelligence yourself.

    I agree with you here in a big way, FiveB247x. I think when even just posting to a public site like this each of us should think out our thoughts and words carefully and so a famous person should take extra care in being responsible to do the same. Yet we really should think for ourselves and beyond that be active in doing things that make a difference. Famous people should not be our conscience.
    "Don't give in to the lies.  Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth.  And to hope."
    -Jim Acosta











  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I think the most insulting thing in this thread is to call 'Soulja Boy' a rapper. :lol::lol:

    He's an urban commercial pop-music artist who can't rap for shit.
    NERDS!
  • threefish10threefish10 Posts: 7,392
    Mos def and Common both seem like pretty smart guys to me.
    condescending and sarcastic since 1980
Sign In or Register to comment.