A LOT OF YOU REALLY SUCK
inmytree2000
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I cant believe how many of you are complaining about the 20th anniversary show. Even on a "bad night" Pearl Jam is better than most bands out there. They are one of the best bands in the world, and you fucks are complaining, not a a lot of people have seen Temple of the dog and for Chris Cornell to come out and do those songs is amazing. It sounds like a lot of people did not deserve to go, it was probably your first time seeing them, and probably your first time even hearing about the band. I hate fake poser "fans" that don't know what good music is. 
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if i had to say only one thing .. night one was to short .
I wanted to see some Philly night 4 set list ....
Especially all those people who were leaving the show early during the Temple of the Dog set on Sunday. Unbelievable.
What cracks me up is how many of us have read it.
(And yes, I loved both nights.)
I am a die hard 20 year fan (although late in getting on 10C wagon), and BOTH nights I went with a "casual fan".Saturday was with my wife, who had seen them once before with me. Although she has heard many of the songs on the set list over the last 12 years of putting up with me, she really only "knew" 5 or 6 songs. Sunday was a friend who had never seem them before.
They were both blown away, as was I seeing them for the 12th and 13th time (I've never had the good furtune of traveling to see them, but I will...)!!!!!!!!!!!
Asking me to say which night was better is like asking which child you love more. Say they're 1 and 1A in any order you choose.
Thank you Pearl Jam and all involved for such an EPIC weekend that will stick with this 39 year old for the rest of his life!
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but i just want to explain myself for that.....
one, i couldn't afford the 2 day thing thru ten club. so i chose day 1 over day 2.
two, every PJ show i go to- i try and bring someone new. someone who has never experienced a PJ show before.
this time i brought 5!!!!! 5 people who have never seen my favorite band before. as i was in my glory hearing songs i have never heard live before or in ages. they were all like "what's this one" "is this new" etc. So they were able to sing along to maybe 2 songs on the setlist.
three, i sat lawn. wayyyy back. and its always hard to feel "connected" when youre stuck in the back. but i witnessed a heck of a lot of people sitting, talking, chugging beers out of boredom, and leaving way early.
i'm not blaming the band, they didnt force me to bring newcomers, choose what day, choose where to sit, choose who to play for....... i'm just saying- Night 2's setlist seems much more worth the ticket price than Night 1.
The negatively ain't anything new, unfortunately. I truly don't care anymore. I used to engage people whom I felt were ignorant of what this band does, I've posted countless diatribes on here and I've even e-mailed a few key people to ask how on earth they could stop loving this band the way I do. At the end of the day, you want people to see the magic but not everyone can (or will). These guys' music, specifically their live shows, have been there for me for much of my adult life, and thank God it hasn't stopped yet (and they still bust out a gem like In The Moonlight, just to show us that there will keep being those "WTF?! This is AWESOME" moments).
Well said...
...if you were a third grader! Awesome way to generalize people with such broad strokes and comment on who deserves to be there. Sweet fourth post. Waiting with such anticipation for your fifth! :thumbup:
While I agree with your sentiment (that PJ on a "bad night" is better than most anything), keep in mind that (1) not everyone there was a 10c member, (2) not everyone there was even a "die-hard" hard fan, (3) even 10c members may not like TOTD all that much, and (4) even 10c members or die-hard fans like PJ's entire catalogue, including their "hits."
SO...you might be either complaining about people who aren't in the 10c (i.e. The people leaving early Sunday), people who, in that case, aren't reading this, or you're complaining about people having a difference of opinion.
I'm all for 10c nerds keeping things in perspective, but it sounds like your main gripe is that other 10c members have different tastes and opinions (which they're entitled to anyway)? You're right in that people need to know when they've got a great thing going (i.e. being at the show to begin with), but its pretty snobby to say someone sucks because they'd rather hear a PJ song they like than a TOTD song they may or may not know.
Anyway...just my two cents. Great weekend in my opinion.
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No question, 2 of the best pj shows I have or will ever see, but after seeing so many different amazing shows, I'm done. Let down! Reach down is too long and too boring... Would have loved an audioslave solo cornell song, and I know mike and jeff have the skills to cover a soundgarden song... I also had high hopes with dhani and joe arthur there, ed could cover ben harpers part... I know liam could.
Overall, liam finn was one hell of an addition to the vox, he sounds so good with ed! 800 more miles to denver!
BUT
if you had a bad time either night, you did it wrong and should probably save your money going forward and stay home
Never underestimate the power of music; it's a beautiful thing.
See, to me this is the best of the TOTD songs. I can actually do without Hungerstrike, truth be told. :twisted:
Let's see, before the 10 minutes of my silence speaking volumes gets too loud. DMB put on 4 thre day festivals in celebration of their 20th anniversary... Phish plays 3 day festivals every year (for far cheaper than PJ while playing between 12-15 hours of THEIR music, and not making them subject to trash like the Strokes)... Metallica is playing 4 30th anniversary shows for just fan club members for $19.81 TOTAL for all 4.... So yeah, I don't need to go on to tell you that, while it's cool that Pearl Jam put on a totally kick ass festival, it does not make them as unique as you think - and if you think they didn't make a tremendous amount of money off of this, you are someone that has no knowledge of the touring industry.
I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion of shows, which apparently isn't tolerated on this message board. Dissent from the party line will NOT BE TOLERATED. How much more Republican can you get?
Ladies and gentlemen, one of the aforementioned complainers.
I do agree, festivals aren't that unique. This one was, though. I can certainly live with the fact I did not go, but I can only imagine it would have trumped four days of Metallica or DMB in my mind. I am a Phish fan but I'd take TOTD over some of the former band's cruddy covers any day of the week. I think the basic point is that some of the negativity is way over the top. I do agree that people have a right to express disappointment. I think what rubs people the wrong way is how its packaged.
I would never have left during ToTD though - I knew then there was more show left. RITFW I was afraid would be the end w/ the house lights up!
I'm really not complaining - my only issue was with the sloppiness of the first 45 minutes or so of night 1. I think it was a very well planned and executed festival, and I really enjoyed getting to see Joe Arthur in a different environment, as well as Glen and John Doe, Mudhoney back on a big stage, etc. My negativity comes from being told I "don't get" Pearl Jam (after 18 years and 90 shows) because I'm not sitting here saying OMG BEST WEEKEND EVAAAARRRRRRR. They were super fun shows, great guests, and the museum was a revelation. Never thought I'd get to see the shards of the original NBA bass - just awesome. However, pointing out the fact that there was some extremely sloppy moments in the "greatest shows ever" should be allowed on this board, instead of constant derision. It's unfortunate that so many people on this board don't remember/acknowledge it, but there was a time when this band and even the singer didn't make more mistakes than you can count on two hands at every show - I know they're not that band any more, and I go see them for what they are now. Doesn't mean I'm not entitled to an opinion because I don't think they're as great as they once were. They're still taking my money, so I don't really think the band would care too much either.
I haven't really read the over the top hater comments, so I'm more speaking based on what I've read in response, and on my own experience.
Fair enough. For what its worth, I was in the same position a few years back when I expressed the view that the Oct 28, 2003 Santa Barbara show where Jack Irons guested and there was another TOTD reunion wasn't my cup of tea in many ways. Some people thought I was a tad cynical and jaded. In retrospect and looking back, they played Fatal and the show was kinda cool, but at the time my expectations were very different. I think I see where you are coming from. One ought to be allowed to critique.
I may be cynical and jaded
Second that. Well said!
Faithing and hoping to buy themselves time
Me, I figure as each breath goes by
I only own my mind
I stayed for the entire Night 2 set, left after the "national anthem," didn't miss a song and a half, and STILL got out in 15 minutes.
I don't know why. Our driver was magic that night I guess.
for the least they could possibly do