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Gvn2flyGvn2fly Posts: 754
edited September 2011 in Given To Fly (live)
I would've never expected people here on these boards to complain about hearing a set full of rarities.

What's changed? When they have played rare songs in the past people are ecstatic. Now they play a set of mostly rare songs and there are complaints?

This set list appears to be have been chosen for the "serious collector"-EV

This was a gift by the band for the fan that has taken the 20 year journey with the band. I'm ok with not seeing Courdory for the 15th time.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,384
    first world problems
  • KatKat Posts: 4,931
    Gvn2fly wrote:
    snipped.
    This was a gift by the band for the fan that has taken the 20 year journey with the band. I'm ok with not seeing Courdory for the 15th time.

    It -was- a gift...and very appreciated. It was a show about history and longevity and friends and that includes all of the fans too...not only the artists who also entertained in difficult circumstances. :)

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  • GVN2FLY NDGVN2FLY ND Posts: 86
    Exactly Kat :)

    :D

    I couldn't believe all the songs that took me 15+ years and 15+ concerts to hear, all packed in one night, and still one more to go!!!!!

    What a gift!!! I mean really, what more could we ask for?!?!?!?!
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    I would have loved to have seen this show. TOTD, MLB, plus some of the rare songs a dream set list.
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,009
    I don't get it, either. I was sitting at home watching the setlist, wishing I could be there. It was not a "typical" PJ setlist -- whatever that is. But given the nature of the event, it all -- TOTD reunion, MLB, lots of guest artists/ friends of the band -- makes sense. I was surprised to see "Arms Aloft" as the second song, but far from disappointed; I am one of many people who still cannot believe Joe Strummer is gone, and I'd be willing to bet that Ed is one of those people, too.

    I guess everyone has their own idea of what a "dream setlist" looks like, but I don't understand the part where people are disappointed when their imagined psychic connection with Ed doesn't pan out. Sure, it would be awesome if Ed and the rest of the guys showed up at my house and said "Hey, your back yard has a great view. Would you mind if we set up out by the pool and played some songs tonight? You can even pick the setlist." When I was a ten-year-old Beatlemaniac stuck at summer camp, I kept hoping Paul McCartney somehow would learn of my misery and would swoop in and take me someplace far more cool. Guess what? -- It didn't happen; I kept listening to the Beatles anyway.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    GVN2FLY ND wrote:
    Exactly Kat :)

    :D

    I couldn't believe all the songs that took me 15+ years and 15+ concerts to hear, all packed in one night, and still one more to go!!!!!

    Seriously. At this point in my touring "career", I can't honestly expect to go to a Pearl Jam show and see something I've never seen before. Last night, I saw like 10 things I've never seen before. Who else does that?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I don't understand the part where people are disappointed when their imagined psychic connection with Ed doesn't pan out

    Also, I found this to be hilarious and spot on.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • RoeghmannRoeghmann Posts: 969
    Bring that set and that show to Europe and You'll hear no complaining!

    Man I'm looking forward to that bootleg!
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,965
    I can understand being underwhelmed if it was your first or second PJ show. You go in expecting to hear all this stuff off of Rearviewmirror and you come out with a box full of stuff you may not have even heard before...then the encore comes on and it's not even Pearl Jam anymore.

    You've got a point. you came in expecting the Pearl Jam you know and loved and you didn't get to experience that. But more than likely you'll be there tonight, and will be seeing them in the future and you'll appreciate the show more and more as you further discover the band.

    But for the people who've seen them 20+ times or 40+ and are complaining...you're just a bunch of weirdos.

    Why even bother adding a 41st show to your wrap sheet when it's not any different from shows 1-40?

    You saw something different from all of the past shows you've attended...most people would walk away enjoying a unique experience, not complain about it.
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  • skyvalleyskyvalley Posts: 186
    Röeghmann wrote:
    Bring that set and that show to Europe and You'll hear no complaining!

    Man I'm looking forward to that bootleg!

    This is it!
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  • Lukin19Lukin19 Posts: 533
    I couldn't make Alpine for a variety of reasons so I watched the grainy video feed last night. And what I witnessed was indeed something truly magical. I'm
    still getting goose bumps watching the YouTube clips today. As Kat said this was truly a gift from the band. PJ has given me lots since my first show in '92 strength , joy, optimism and hope, heck even a few tears along the way and I think last nights show encompassed all of that. To hear people that actually got to be there complain about it is truly confusing.
    That set list and TOTD reunion was indeed a gift from a band that continues to
    make music that still matters 20 years later.

    I just want to say THANK YOU PJ!!!

    To all the selfish assholes that didn't enjoy last night your obviously not real fans. Go flip your posters and stay off the message boards.
  • Dissident81Dissident81 Chicago Suburbs Posts: 44
    curmudgeoness wrote:
    Sure, it would be awesome if Ed and the rest of the guys showed up at my house and said "Hey, your back yard has a great view. Would you mind if we set up out by the pool and played some songs tonight? You can even pick the setlist.

    That made me literally laugh so loud that people around me on the lawn here at night 2 (QOTSA is on, so I'm bored...) looked at me. Thanks for that :)
  • jrdjrd Posts: 3,060
    Ditto what everyone else has said! ;) Nice to read a positive thread.

    Just about to go to bed over here in the UK, work tomorrow, can't stay up any longer, incredibly jealous of what'll probably pan out over the next few hours... looking forward to reading tomorrow's whinging... :roll:
    Oh yeah? Well, I've had about enough of morons and halfwits, dolts, dunces, dullards and dumbbells - and you chowderhead yokel, you blithering hayseed, you - you've had enough of me?
  • GlenGlen Posts: 111
    Nicely put by all, for someone not in the lucky few who are there, watching the few videos that are around this was amazing. Truly a gift and a walk down memory lane. I hope the band enjoyed it as much as the majority have.

    For all the fans please bring on the boot of this weekend and let us all celebrate this great band, those present and those not.

    Thanks Pearl Jam and Happy Birthday!
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  • tigers84tigers84 Greenville, SC Posts: 457
    Basically starting to get very tired of the bitchin from my fellow "true" fans.

    Really?? Im 35, seen only 9 shows. They never come around here. I dont like all the damn posters. Dont need 100 shirts. Dont have $$. To blow on plane tix. And i dont care about all that bc this band kicks my ass everytime i throw a boot, Ten, whatever in my stereo!!!!! Stop the bitchin, remember why u are on this board. Is it to make $$ or to listen to a record.

    Thanks for my venting, just sick of the babies.
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    i understand where some people are coming from saying that the flow would be wiered with all the guests and rare songs, especially on songs that the band haven't played much live before because they would not have the same expierence on them that they would have on the stuff they always play. however i would just view it as a different kind of awesome from the regular pearl jam show, and hopefully the people who where disapointed would realise that eventually, because they where lucky enough to see something that alot of us will never get to see
  • kato78kato78 Posts: 61
    Glen wrote:
    Nicely put by all, for someone not in the lucky few who are there, watching the few videos that are around this was amazing. Truly a gift and a walk down memory lane. I hope the band enjoyed it as much as the majority have.

    For all the fans please bring on the boot of this weekend and let us all celebrate this great band, those present and those not.

    Thanks Pearl Jam and Happy Birthday!

    couldn't say it better! my heart hurt not being there and watching the news come in of the setlists but i was truly thrilled to hear as much as i could on Gary's grainy, spotty cellphone (and he should be sainted for how selflessly he did as much as he could for us at home!!!) and really excited for everyone who was there. PJ full out delivered all of us a big box of love wrapped up in a bow! I hope we're fortunate to have another 20 years with them - and with the best fans around. THANK YOU!
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