Pentagon under fire over war contracts

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
again, are the wars still worth the cost????

we are pissing money away over there with these contracts. this is $30 billion that we could have spent on our own people or could have applied it to the deficit over time...$30 billion gone, wasted in the blink of an eye...pooooof...

Pentagon under fire over war contracts

http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-under-fi ... 29247.html

The Pentagon has wasted more than $30 billion on contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan due to shoddy management and a lack of competition, an independent inquiry said.

In its final report to Congress due to be released Wednesday, the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting warns that waste and fraud have undermined American diplomacy, fomented corruption in host countries and tarnished the US image abroad.

"Tens of billions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted through poor planning, vague and shifting requirements, inadequate competition, substandard contract management and oversight, lax accountability, weak inter-agency coordination, and subpar performance or outright misconduct by some contractors and federal employees," the co-chairs of the panel, Christopher Shays and Michael Thibault, wrote in the Washington Post.

"Both government and contractors need to do better," said the commentary published Monday.

The report comes amid mounting pressure in Washington to scale back defense spending and waning public support for the Afghan mission after nearly a decade of war.

The US military increasingly has turned to private companies since the September 11, 2001 attacks, with the contractor workforce at times surpassing 260,000 people -- a roughly one-to-one ratio with troops deployed.

But the commission found that the United States went to war in Afghanistan in 2001 and in Iraq in 2003 without sufficiently preparing to handle the "enormous scale and numbers of contracts."

As a result, "America is over-relying on contractors," they said.

The commission chiefs also warned that another $30 billion or more could be wasted if the Iraqi or Afghan "governments are unable or unwilling to sustain US-funded projects after our involvement ends."

The Pentagon said previous inquiries had pointed out problems with contracting and the department had enacted a number of reforms as a result.

"We are well aware of some of the deficiencies over the years in how we've worked contracts," spokesman Colonel Dave Lapan told reporters.

"We have worked hard over those years to try to correct those deficiencies when we've come across them," said Lapan.

The department will review the report to look for any additional measures to prevent waste, he added.

Among the examples cited by the commission was a $40 million prison built in Iraq that the Baghdad government "did not want and that was never finished," Shays and Thibault wrote.

In Afghanistan, the United States spent $300 million on a power plant in Kabul that the Afghan government cannot afford to sustain and lacks the technical experts to run, the panel found.

Another report out Monday found the Pentagon has almost tripled funding for no-bid contracts since the attacks of September 11, 2001, from $50 billion in 2001 to $140 billion in 2010.

The lack of competition in contracting has resulted in waste, lower quality services and fraud, according to the investigative report by the non-profit Center for Public Integrity.

In one case, a Tucson-based company, Applied Energetics, won over $50 million in funding for a futuristic "lightning weapon" that is supposed to detonate roadside bombs, even though it had failed some tests.

In August, the Marine Corps canceled the latest $3 million proposed contract after a commander in Afghanistan decided the weapon would not provide what his unit needed.

The Defense Department often justifies no-bid contracts by saying there is only one legitimate supplier of certain goods, that there is "an unusual and compelling urgency" or that holding a competition would undermine national security, the report said.

During his 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama vowed to rein in contracting and after his election, he issued a memorandum calling for more competition. But the report found that Pentagon no-bid contracts have continued to increase.

The Pentagon said no-bid contracts were sometimes necessary to rush sophisticated equipment to troops in combat.

"There have been many instances because of wartime needs where a long, lengthy competitive bid contract process does not serve the needs of the warfighters," Lapan said.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,435
    OH MY GOD-- think of all the good we could have done with all that money. It's sickening how much has been thrown away... for what?

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck! :x
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    I still say screw NPR and anything arts and science related. that is where the REAL money will be saved.....
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    The pentagon should certainly be held accountable... but so should Congress. They were just throwing money at them and didn't seem to care where it is going.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    good...lets see if it has legs. These stories come up from time to time, but no one ever is held accountable
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    good...lets see if it has legs. These stories come up from time to time, but no one ever is held accountable
    because we have other maunfactured crises to be worried about in congress....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    It's clear no one was prepared for after they got Saddam.

    Unbelievable.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,435
    This morning I had two thoughts come to mind regarding this war spending:

    First, "Ok, so how would this money be better spent?"
    My contention is that wars are about two things: religion and resources. Maybe better education would help avoid some religious wars, I'm not sure. Resource wars, however, could be avoided by utilizing ones own resources more carefully and helping other countries develope their own-- and share what you can. If we had spent the billions of dollars we've waisted trying to secure foreign oil on developing alternative energy sources, building walkable communities, encouraging local economy, rebuilding our rail system and improving our health and education systems we would have all come out much further ahead.

    Secondly, "Ok, so what now?"
    Now, more than ever, we need to do what I've suggested above. Besides trying to convince my fellow PJ forum posters that we need to do these things, I need to write to my representatives and senators and tell them how I feel (remembering that writing letters is far more effective than "one click" on the computer activism).

    So off I go-- first to work and then I've got a letter to write to support a fellow PJ'er who is battling cancer and letters to write to my congress people. I don't mean to sound smug or pretend that I have all the answers, but I would encourage any of you who are interested to do the same.
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  • mikepegg44 wrote:
    good...lets see if it has legs. These stories come up from time to time, but no one ever is held accountable
    because we have other maunfactured crises to be worried about in congress....

    We have to keep issues like this on the front burn...

    wait...

    What about Obama on vacation???

    Sarah Palin said what???

    oh ok, nevermind... what were we talking about again?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    good...lets see if it has legs. These stories come up from time to time, but no one ever is held accountable
    because we have other maunfactured crises to be worried about in congress....

    We have to keep issues like this on the front burn...

    wait...

    What about Obama on vacation???

    Sarah Palin said what???

    oh ok, nevermind... what were we talking about again?

    who on sesame street is getting married? Which Kardashian got married, that wedding cake cost what?
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    It's clear no one was prepared for after they got Saddam.

    Unbelievable.
    On the contrary...what is happening today is exactly what was planned all along.
    A never-ending money pit for taxpayers, and a never-ending boon to war profiteers.
    (oh, and then there's that oft-forgotten consequence of never-ending misery and terror for the people of the countries being occupied).
    Bad planning WAS the plan....the MIC and Western corps get to shrug their shoulders and point fingers while getting rich on blood money. Chalking this up to bad planning is giving these war criminals a free pass.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    It's clear no one was prepared for after they got Saddam.

    Unbelievable.
    On the contrary...what is happening today is exactly what was planned all along.
    A never-ending money pit for taxpayers, and a never-ending boon to war profiteers.
    (oh, and then there's that oft-forgotten consequence of never-ending misery and terror for the people of the countries being occupied).
    Bad planning WAS the plan....the MIC and Western corps get to shrug their shoulders and point fingers while getting rich on blood money. Chalking this up to bad planning is giving these war criminals a free pass.


    I disagree. I don't think they had a plan. But who knows, you could be right.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,271
    It's clear no one was prepared for after they got Saddam.

    Unbelievable.
    On the contrary...what is happening today is exactly what was planned all along.
    A never-ending money pit for taxpayers, and a never-ending boon to war profiteers.
    (oh, and then there's that oft-forgotten consequence of never-ending misery and terror for the people of the countries being occupied).
    Bad planning WAS the plan....the MIC and Western corps get to shrug their shoulders and point fingers while getting rich on blood money. Chalking this up to bad planning is giving these war criminals a free pass.


    I disagree. I don't think they had a plan. But who knows, you could be right.
    I dont think there was a plan either. Then again, privatising war(at least partialy) really fits with a segment of the repub ideology. Business first.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,435
    Spent my lunch and break time writing to my senators asking them to stop wasting money on useless wars and focus those funds on useful activities (as stated in previous post). Doing so felt great! :D
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