Good Article on TX Job Growth and Perry

ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp

    So does this get a Woot or no Woot?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp
    ...
    "Hammond and Perry say Texas is attractive to businesses because there's no corporate income tax, no state income tax, and environmental and other state regulations on Texas businesses are kept to a minimum. Critics reply that there's a big downside to these policies, as Texas ranks 44th in expenditures per public school pupil and 50th in the number of adults and children who have health insurance.
    Dick Lavine, a senior fiscal analyst with the Center for Public Policy Priorities, says the state is tied with Mississippi for the highest percentage of the workforce in minimum wage jobs. His group tracks legislation's impact on middle- and working-class Texans.
    ...
    What is undeniable is that relative to the rest of the country, Texas is adding the most jobs (in numbers) by far. Unfortunately, it has not been enough. Texas' unemployment rate is at 8.2 percent, higher than the unemployment rate in the highly taxed, highly regulated state of New York. It is also higher than the 7.6 percent unemployment rate of Massachusetts, with its near universal health care, the state once governed by GOP rival Mitt Romney."
    ...
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp
    This is a helpful article, with some pros and cons about the Texas economy. It's pretty clear to me how the population has been growing like crazy during the last 3 decades. It slowed down some during the mid 80s oil bust, then took off again.

    Important points about the building boom that got started in the 90s and the construction laborers willing to work for low wages.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp
    This is a helpful article, with some pros and cons about the Texas economy. It's pretty clear to me how the population has been growing like crazy during the last 3 decades. It slowed down some during the mid 80s oil bust, then took off again.

    Important points about the building boom that got started in the 90s and the construction laborers willing to work for low wages.

    The same laborers he's trying to keep out with his big fence.
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  • ComeToTX wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Starting this thread because the last Perry one got shut down. Keep it civil!

    http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463 ... c=fb&cc=fp
    This is a helpful article, with some pros and cons about the Texas economy. It's pretty clear to me how the population has been growing like crazy during the last 3 decades. It slowed down some during the mid 80s oil bust, then took off again.

    Important points about the building boom that got started in the 90s and the construction laborers willing to work for low wages.

    The same laborers he's trying to keep out with his big fence.

    Is he a fence guy? I didn't think that would fly in Texas... all of the big businesses (big donors) have to be against cracking down on immigration.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Does the article talk about the thousands of teachers who got laid off this past year because our education funds dried up on account of Perry funneling it into other areas of the budget over the years to keep it balanced?

    I would like to think that Perry won't get elected, because he has been one of the worst and most shady governors in Texas history, and the worst in my lifetime. Once the media stops focusing on his trash talking and actually look at his politics, gets over the fact that they gave him a cute nickname (The Texas Tornado... how original) and talk about things like his HPV Vaccine debacle, various illegal land dealings, and of course our bankrupt education system, I would hope people would back another candidate in the GOP race.

    Seriously, Perry makes Bush look like a good Governor. I'm not saying he would make a worse President, but his record doesn't make it much of a stretch of the imagination. If it weren't for the fact that a Golden Retriever could get elected in Texas if he were the Republican candidate, he would have been out long ago.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    Does the article talk about the thousands of teachers who got laid off this past year because our education funds dried up on account of Perry funneling it into other areas of the budget over the years to keep it balanced?

    I would like to think that Perry won't get elected, because he has been one of the worst and most shady governors in Texas history, and the worst in my lifetime. Once the media stops focusing on his trash talking and actually look at his politics, gets over the fact that they gave him a cute nickname (The Texas Tornado... how original) and talk about things like his HPV Vaccine debacle, various illegal land dealings, and of course our bankrupt education system, I would hope people would back another candidate in the GOP race.

    Seriously, Perry makes Bush look like a good Governor. I'm not saying he would make a worse President, but his record doesn't make it much of a stretch of the imagination. If it weren't for the fact that a Golden Retriever could get elected in Texas if he were the Republican candidate, he would have been out long ago.

    I agree. The biggest thing other GOP candidates can attack him on is education. He literally bankrupted our education system.

    And yes he's a big fence guy. Of course there's large sections of holes in the fence so maybe it was another talking point and waste of money.

    He's the shadiest politician we've seen in a long time.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    ComeToTX wrote:
    This is a helpful article, with some pros and cons about the Texas economy. It's pretty clear to me how the population has been growing like crazy during the last 3 decades. It slowed down some during the mid 80s oil bust, then took off again.

    Important points about the building boom that got started in the 90s and the construction laborers willing to work for low wages.

    The same laborers he's trying to keep out with his big fence.

    Is he a fence guy? I didn't think that would fly in Texas... all of the big businesses (big donors) have to be against cracking down on immigration.
    The last I remember he was opposed to the fence. He said something like if they put up a 15 ft. fence, people will just find 16 ft. ladders.

    Besides, he knows he can't piss off the Hispanic vote. :lol:
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Yeah, I'm not sure if he ever said anything about a fence. He just asks the Federal Government to give him money for border security every other day, what he would actually spend it on is another thing though.

    The funniest thing about Perry is that he tows the party line about government spending, and complains about it to the point he sounds like a broken record. But he CONSTANTLY has his hand out for money from them, even for things that aren't completely necessary.

    And he never wants to spend it on the things they give it to him for. Washington got hip to this, and when he was begging for money to help with our education problems, they offered to give him money on the condition that it HAD to be spent on education. Well he freaked out and said that Washington was trying to run our State. I don't think it's too much to ask that if they give you money to bail you out of your education problems, that they make sure that's what you actually spend it on. It just goes to show that he was going to use it for something other than education. He was able to get his no-strings attached money by having one of his buddies in Washington sneak it in with an attachment to the budget deal back around April. There is no telling where that money went, because schools are still laying off teachers and having to charge for bus service and other normally free services.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    Go Beavers wrote:
    So does this get a Woot or no Woot?
    I would like to propose having the terms "Woot" and "Batshit Crazy" banned from use on this board. :idea:
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Jason P wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    So does this get a Woot or no Woot?
    I would like to propose having the terms "Woot" and "Batshit Crazy" banned from use on this board. :idea:


    Agreed.... who exactly coined the phrase "batshit crazy" anyway?
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    inlet13 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    So does this get a Woot or no Woot?
    I would like to propose having the terms "Woot" and "Batshit Crazy" banned from use on this board. :idea:


    Agreed.... who exactly coined the phrase "batshit crazy" anyway?

    I don't know, it's been around for a LONG time, it just became extremely common in recent years and therefore gotten annoying. I know it was part of my dads vocabulary as far back as 20 years ago, and since he's never been on the cutting edge of anything, I'm sure that means it was probably around for at least 20 years before that.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    inlet13 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I would like to propose having the terms "Woot" and "Batshit Crazy" banned from use on this board. :idea:


    Agreed.... who exactly coined the phrase "batshit crazy" anyway?

    I don't know, it's been around for a LONG time, it just became extremely common in recent years and therefore gotten annoying. I know it was part of my dads vocabulary as far back as 20 years ago, and since he's never been on the cutting edge of anything, I'm sure that means it was probably around for at least 20 years before that.
    :lol:
    As one of the resident old people around here, and also rarely on the cutting edge, I can attest that it was in use at least in the 80s, which is when I learned it.
    Oddly enough I learned it from people who worked in mental health.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,275
    inlet13 wrote:
    Agreed.... who exactly coined the phrase "batshit crazy" anyway?

    I don't know, it's been around for a LONG time, it just became extremely common in recent years and therefore gotten annoying. I know it was part of my dads vocabulary as far back as 20 years ago, and since he's never been on the cutting edge of anything, I'm sure that means it was probably around for at least 20 years before that.
    :lol:
    As one of the resident old people around here, and also rarely on the cutting edge, I can attest that it was in use at least in the 80s, which is when I learned it.
    Oddly enough I learned it from people who worked in mental health.
    So you're saying this is a technical term? ;)
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    He also isn't sold on evolution and he's sure climate change isn't manmade.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    mickeyrat wrote:
    :lol:
    As one of the resident old people around here, and also rarely on the cutting edge, I can attest that it was in use at least in the 80s, which is when I learned it.
    Oddly enough I learned it from people who worked in mental health.
    So you're saying this is a technical term? ;)
    Well, it probably wouldn't be written a patient's chart! :lol:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    ComeToTX wrote:
    He also isn't sold on evolution and he's sure climate change isn't manmade.

    two issues not relevant to his voting base
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    polaris_x wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    He also isn't sold on evolution and he's sure climate change isn't manmade.

    two issues not relevant to his voting base

    this is true. just pointing it out.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    Gov. Rick Perry told a child questioner in New Hampshire today that Texas public schools teach creationism alongside evolution — a statement that state education experts are refuting in varying degrees.

    “No, it is not true," said Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, an interest group that has lobbied the State Board of Education to keep religion out of public schools. "Texas science standards do not call for teaching creationism in the classroom."

    At a campaign stop in Portsmouth this afternoon, a child — goaded by his mother — first asked Perry how old he thought the Earth was. Perry said he didn't know, but that he expects it's "pretty old."

    "Ask him about evolution," the boy's mother can be heard saying.

    “It’s a theory that’s out there. It’s got some gaps in it," Perry responded. "In Texas, we teach both creationism and evolution in our public schools. Because I figure you’re smart enough to figure out which one is right.”

    In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that teaching creationism in public schools was unconstitutional. In the case Edwards v. Aguillard, the court ruled that teaching creationism in Louisiana public schools was the equivalent of teaching religion — and violated the Constitution because it advanced a particular religion.

    Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, another contender for the GOP presidential nomination, took to Twitter almost instantly, seeming to mock Perry for the creationism comment, as well as for his recent statements on climate change: “To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, another contender for the GOP presidential nomination, took to Twitter almost instantly, seeming to mock Perry for the creationism comment, as well as for his recent statements on climate change: “To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy."

    who is this Huntsman guy? ... he'd probably be the only GOP nominee to make that claim ...
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