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Mike Patton is under/over-rated?

veddertownveddertown Scotland Posts: 5,260
edited August 2011 in Other Music
What is your opinion on the FNM, Tomahawk, Mr. Bungle, Fantomas singer? Despite his diverse range of vocal styles and equally diverse side projects he is surely one of the most overlooked musician/singer, songwriters around? As much as I adore FNM where I heard him first he has made so much more innovative music in his long career without ever staying around in one genre for any length of time. He appears on such a huge body of work which isn't to everyone's taste but great to explore. Favourite albums;

Fantomas: The Director's Cut
Tomahawk: Mit Gas
FNM: Angeldust
Mr. Bungle: California
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    Mike Patton's innovation, creativity, ideas: A-

    Mike Patton's execution, delivery, preformance: D+
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Patton is painfully under-rated!! I don't even know if that is an accurate description.. Over-looked I think is better. In order for someone to over or under-rate you, they have to notice you. I think the man is an amazing singer and incredible front man. Faith No More is probably my favorite band next to Pearl Jam. Patton's range of singing styles is just amazing and his influence on modern music can be heard without looking to far..

    Patton is the man!
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Mike Patton's innovation, creativity, ideas: A-

    Mike Patton's execution, delivery, preformance: D+
    Most respectfully dis-agree
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Mike Patton's innovation, creativity, ideas: A-

    Mike Patton's execution, delivery, preformance: D+
    Most respectfully dis-agree

    I think he'd be an awesome producer or songwriter. But as a preformer I always find myself uninterested in what he does or is trying to do.
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  • CAVSTARR313CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Mike Patton's innovation, creativity, ideas: A-

    Mike Patton's execution, delivery, preformance: D+
    Most respectfully dis-agree

    I think he'd be an awesome producer or songwriter. But as a preformer I always find myself uninterested in what he does or is trying to do.
    This just blows my mind.. Do you own or have you given a good listen to "King For A Day" or "Angeldust" His vocal stylings are second to none..
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,911
    talent, vocal stylings and all, if the end result leaves you unmoved...then how is it any different than elevator music?
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  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,347
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Mike Patton's innovation, creativity, ideas: A-

    Mike Patton's execution, delivery, preformance: D+
    YOU ARE HIGH RIGHT NOW! And that's ok
  • nothing_man_92nothing_man_92 Canberra, Australia Posts: 347
    I dont know what it is about mike Patton but I just dont like him. I love songs from all his different bands but something about him doesn't reach me....
  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    I opened this thread while I was already listening to Mr. Bungle's California album, so off that bat I think that answers this question.

    I am a huge Patton fan, the dude is just top notch amazing. Out of everything he's done, even including FNM my favorite album is Peeping Tom. That is one of the greatest album ever released in my opinion. Even though there is so much hip hop influence on it, and I'm far from a hip hop fan, that album just blows me away every single time I listen to it. I mean seriously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZA-NU08 ... re=related

    The dude even released an album that was in all Italian and even though I don't understand one word he says it still sounds great. The man is a genius.
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  • HeisenbergHeisenberg Los Pollos Hermanos Posts: 4,957
    You forgot Lovage.
  • solace23solace23 Posts: 704
    So under rated.. Every performance he gives his soul..
  • Paulina87Paulina87 Poland Posts: 3,302
    In my opinion he's one of the greatest artist ever, saw him live with few different projects and those were one of the best shows I've ever seen. Amazing singer and songwriter!!
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  • morellomorello Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 6,217
    In 2009 I went to two concerts of bands I hadn't really listened to since the early '90s - Pearl Jam & FNM. The day after PJ's show I rebought all albums, joined the fan club, 2 & half years later I'm still on the PJ fanclub messageboard everyday, went to Ed in Oz, am going to PJ20 etc etc yet I still don't own a FNM album. I used to think Mike was really cute but the show I went to did nothing for me vs PJ's signed me up for life. JMHO.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    I don't think either. The people that like him love him and the rest of us think he's awful. I think he deserves both. I hear a great voice in short little flashes, but he does so much gibberish bullshit stuff that's supposed to be impressive but really just undermines what talent he does have.
  • Sweet OblivionSweet Oblivion Posts: 456
    One of the greatest vocalists and frontmen of all time. I don't think anything will top seeing the 1st Faith No More reunion show at the Brixton.
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    I don't really know if he is under-rated or overrated. When you read reviews etc he seems to be lauded as a "genius" which sounds a bit OTT but he is also under-rated because he is not known much in the mainstream media (which is probably a good thing really!)

    Personally I'm a huge fan though, and I do think he probably IS a bit of a genius, musically. I loved FNM about 20 years ago and then lost track of them. In fact I only recently found out about his side projects about a year ago (didn't even know he was still around before then) and have been blown away by some of the stuff he's done over the past 10 years or so. It's been a bit of a learning curve!

    Lovage - just love love love this album - hope there is some truth in the rumours of a follow-up
    Mondo Cane - his italian one - love the unexpectedness and beauty of this. Best tracks are track Deep Deep Down, Quella Che Conta, and Senza Fine
    Kaada Patton - really unusual and different, esp considering he is essentially a metal singer
    I am the dead - haunting tune
    Peeping Tom - like the album but can't see it going anywhere
    Crudo - has a lot of potential but not sure if he will build on it.
    Tomahawk - not as familiar with this but like what I've heard - really like this one too: God Hates a Coward: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fv ... yvMOI&NR=1
    Fantomas - not that familiar with this one, seems to appeal to me the least for some reason, but will prob check it out sometime

    Of all his projects, I would kill to see Mondo Cane live, and maybe lovage. The Amsterdam shows on Youtube are amazing (and I must say, he does scrub up well in a suit!!) :twisted:

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  • Paulina87Paulina87 Poland Posts: 3,302
    Restless Soul wrote:
    Of all his projects, I would kill to see Mondo Cane live, and maybe lovage. The Amsterdam shows on Youtube are amazing (and I must say, he does scrub up well in a suit!!) :twisted:

    I was lucky enough to see him live with Mondo Cane and it's fantastic piece of music...my favourite Mike's project beside FNM ;)
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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    Heisenberg wrote:
    You forgot Lovage.
    love that lovage, baby
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