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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    RFTC wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Pawlenty, in my opinion, is more actively engaged... but, as my wife just said... "I don't like that guy... he's too cocky" (when I think we all know Pawlenty is not cocky)... I don't think he's winning anyone over.

    I actually think Newt is winning this thing. Bachmann also did ok. Romney, I agree isn't doing great.

    i think we can both agree that newt is a pawn in this thing. for tonight, there are 2 fighters; romney vs pawlenty, pawlenty is winning imo...


    I agree Newt is a pawn. But, I totally disagree that Pawlenty is anywhere even close (as far as in the race) to EITHER Bachmann or Paul. He's a guy who's trying to get back in this thing by picking fights. And that's what the media (on both sides) wanted from him from the get go. My point is, Pawlenty isn't that type of guy.... these fights are not his nature. It's not helping him in anyway. He's just desperate.
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  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    inlet13 wrote:
    RFTC wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    Pawlenty, in my opinion, is more actively engaged... but, as my wife just said... "I don't like that guy... he's too cocky" (when I think we all know Pawlenty is not cocky)... I don't think he's winning anyone over.

    I actually think Newt is winning this thing. Bachmann also did ok. Romney, I agree isn't doing great.

    i think we can both agree that newt is a pawn in this thing. for tonight, there are 2 fighters; romney vs pawlenty, pawlenty is winning imo...


    I agree Newt is a pawn. But, I totally disagree that Pawlenty is anywhere even close (as far as in the race) to EITHER Bachmann or Paul. He's a guy who's trying to get back in this thing by picking fights. And that's what the media (on both sides) wanted from him from the get go. My point is, Pawlenty isn't that type of guy.... these fights are not his nature. It's not helping him in anyway. He's just desperate.

    dont really know enough about him but he is a feisty fkr tonight. as for paul, i know your a fanboy :lol: kidding aside, this is not a good medium for him OR FOX is fking him over w/lesser involvement...imo
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    RFTC wrote:

    dont really know enough about him but he is a feisty fkr tonight. as for paul, i know your a fanboy :lol: kidding aside, this is not a good medium for him OR FOX is fking him over w/lesser involvement...imo


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  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    inlet13 wrote:
    RFTC wrote:

    dont really know enough about him but he is a feisty fkr tonight. as for paul, i know your a fanboy :lol: kidding aside, this is not a good medium for him OR FOX is fking him over w/lesser involvement...imo


    Yeh, they do F people over with lesser involvement.

    ron paul just lost the jewish vote..
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    RFTC wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    RFTC wrote:

    dont really know enough about him but he is a feisty fkr tonight. as for paul, i know your a fanboy :lol: kidding aside, this is not a good medium for him OR FOX is fking him over w/lesser involvement...imo


    Yeh, they do F people over with lesser involvement.

    ron paul just lost the jewish vote..

    I seriously, totally agree with him. He's right. I actually think the majority on this board would agree with him on that issue too.

    Also, no one's saying Isreal can't do what they want. They can F up Iran. Just get us out of there. Not our business unless it really goes down.
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  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    Yeh, they do F people over with lesser involvement.[/quote]

    ron paul just lost the jewish vote..[/quote]

    I seriously, totally agree with him. He's right. I actually think the majority on this board would agree with him on that issue too.

    Also, no one's saying Isreal can't do what they want. They can F up Iran. Just get us out of there. Not our business unless it really goes down.[/quote]

    what about the hasidic/fundamental PJ coalition, are you underestimating that faction? how dare you!
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    RFTC wrote:

    what about the hasidic/fundamental PJ coalition, are you underestimating that faction? how dare you!

    This is a fun debate to watch, ... I can't believe I just said that.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    inlet13 wrote:
    RFTC wrote:

    what about the hasidic/fundamental PJ coalition, are you underestimating that faction? how dare you!

    This is a fun debate to watch, ... I can't believe I just said that.

    not bad. again, i was very pleased with the moderators tonight. final analysis. i don't think anybody in this group is going to beat obama. ron paul doesn't have a chance for the nomination. is there any minority voters in the republican party? goodnight.
  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    romney just shit the bed on the whole state vs fed argument. wow, not ready for primetime... :geek: :geek:
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Why is Rick Santorum even running?
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    The talking heads are saying:

    Newt won (which I also thought).

    Pawlenty had a good line, but lost his little tiff to Bachmann.

    Romney stood basically unchallenged.
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  • unsung
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    The word "PEACE" was only mentioned by one candidate.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    unsung wrote:
    The word "PEACE" was only mentioned by one candidate.


    I wanted Ron Paul to win tonight, but if you're honest... he didn't.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Rick Perry will take the chair of the current occupant.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Rick Perry will take the chair of the current occupant.


    I'll say this much, I will vote against Obama because (just my opinion... he's a awful President)... but, I think this guy Rick Perry has disaster written all over him.

    I think trying Bush II, is a no-go. Not trying to rip Bush, or commend him.... just saying.... from what I've seen of Perry... no chance.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    inlet13 wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Rick Perry will take the chair of the current occupant.


    I'll say this much, I will vote against Obama because (just my opinion... he's a awful President)... but, I think this guy Rick Perry has disaster written all over him.

    I think trying Bush II, is a no-go. Not trying to rip Bush, or commend him.... just saying.... from what I've seen of Perry... no chance.

    This isn't really meant to be a compliment ... but Perry's no bigger a disaster waiting to happen than anybody else on that stage tonight. The Bush comparisons are already starting to bug me ... just because he's from Texas and Bush is from Texas, they're the same guy?

    Ronald Reagan and Nancy Pelosi were both from California.

    All that said, I am someone who lives in Texas and generally votes Republican, but would have a hard, hard time pulling the lever for Rick Perry for President.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Fair enough.
    But the Obama lever would be impossible to pull again. Not that I ever have, jist saying for all of you who chose the wrong person last time.
    Corporations are people
    Woot
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    slightofjeff wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Rick Perry will take the chair of the current occupant.


    I'll say this much, I will vote against Obama because (just my opinion... he's a awful President)... but, I think this guy Rick Perry has disaster written all over him.

    I think trying Bush II, is a no-go. Not trying to rip Bush, or commend him.... just saying.... from what I've seen of Perry... no chance.

    This isn't really meant to be a compliment ... but Perry's no bigger a disaster waiting to happen than anybody else on that stage tonight. The Bush comparisons are already starting to bug me ... just because he's from Texas and Bush is from Texas, they're the same guy?

    Ronald Reagan and Nancy Pelosi were both from California.

    All that said, I am someone who lives in Texas and generally votes Republican, but would have a hard, hard time pulling the lever for Rick Perry for President.


    You're right. I haven't seen enough of him to outright dismiss him. But, I'll be frank with you here...

    The similarities between Perry and Bush go way beyond him coming from Texas. How about the prayer rallies? That sort of thing. I'm by no means against religion. But, Perry is all about them... which is similar to Bush. On top of that, not only is he from Texas and the Gov.... he sounds exactly like Bush when he speaks. That may not be true down South... but, when I heard him, I thought OK, here's Texas.... these are all thoughts on the general election and his appeal

    All that said, you're totally could be right. I shouldn't judge him so quick.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Bush and Perry religious comments....

    They win with these. They néed to get the people on the far right to vote for them so they need to do this. Just like Obama gets the people on the fat left by offering them "free" shit. Like healthcare, welfare, first time homebuyer credits, "stimulus" checks, extended (I lost my job and won't start looking for a new one until checks stop com in) unemployment benefits, c.arbon taxes so people in Africa don't starve because of weather...
    Whatevs

    None of which I ever got but sure as fuck paid for.

    Big picture fellas. Americurrr needs to get some player back on the field.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Bush and Perry religious comments....

    They win with these. They néed to get the people on the far right to vote for them so they need to do this.


    I understand your point, I think. But, my point is... people want an economic argument to cure our ills. Not a for us to get-together and pray for a solution.

    That's why I think Perry's got no shot, if he really will try this super-religious approach.
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