Question about Michele Bachmann/tea party
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First off want to say sorry to Kat. i don't usually make treads so i am sorry but the last one. i had a discussion with another person here who i won't named in case it breaks any rules. we were talking about Michele bachmann and i had some question concerning her. if there is any people who know the answer to these questions i would like to know them.
what makes you think that bachmann/tea party will be able make government smaller?
give 2 examples of how she is a free thinker? ( this is due to an answer i got from said person at another tread)
and to be fair you can ask me any question you may have about Canadian politics?
what makes you think that bachmann/tea party will be able make government smaller?
give 2 examples of how she is a free thinker? ( this is due to an answer i got from said person at another tread)
and to be fair you can ask me any question you may have about Canadian politics?
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ok fair but i notice that you support ron paul. what makes you think he would be able to make government smaller?
the joke about him being shorter was funny
Ron Paul is shorter.
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http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html
technically, she voted for the extension of the Patriot Act
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Never mind.
Sleeper cells used tactics to communicate that were allowed by a sane person's interpretation of the constitution and law prior to 9/11. They can no longer do it and they have been silenced. The only close calls we have had are lone wolfs that don't quite have the technical experience and support to succeed in their missions.
It's not like a terrorist attack was common place before the patriot act.
What if one person acts like tim mcveigh? would the patriot act help? no. or the fort hood shooting or shoe and underwear bombers?
it is an excuse to keep tabs on all people and both parties love it.
It makes sooo much more sense now. Bloated budget = inpart because of "homeland security"
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Oh they want "freedom" as in "I don't want to be accountable for anything I do" like pollute the ocean or give children cancer with their carcinogenic breakfast cereal packaging. They want to be "free" of having to pay taxes and "free" of any moral obligations.
But those same people who harp on about "freedom" are the same ones who want to force kids to pray in school in a way they personally find acceptable, they want to force women to look at sonograms of their rapist's fetuses, they want to force their religion to be taught in school and they want to force schools to stop teaching science or anything that flies in the face of their personal religions.
Oh, they also want to take away the freedoms of people who aren't like them... people with darker skin, gays, people with other religions...
So when Michele Bachmann talks about supporting freedom, you know she's full of crap.
The Patriot Act is meant to stop coordinated attacks.
In my opinion, I think it a narcissistic part of our human nature to be outraged by the threat of our government keeping tabs on us. The Patriot Act allows law enforcement to cut through red tab that would normally prevent them from being effective.
The government does not care about 99.99% of the U.S. public ... unless you don't file taxes ... then they are in your face big-time. The government gives us a social security number at birth ... so that they can make sure you pay in when time comes. They are not just keeping a database of every U.S. citizen ... does anyone think they are capable of that???
But when they get a lead on a possible threat, I don't want anything getting in the way of that investigation.
The U.S., since we are a civilized society, has rules. An enemy of the U.S. is looking to see how they can exploit these rules, much like a tax loop-hole.
agreed.
The hypocrisy from the Tea people knows no bounds.
but now you put blind faith in gov? I thought GOP didn't like big gov?
Now they can investigate and monitor anything. you say they don't care about 99.9% of people and only those who are "enemies" of the US are investigated? it is a slippery slope of investigating you for anything they damn well please.
I disagree. Why lump all Tea Party people as if they are one. You do not appreciate it when the gay community is treated that way.
Personally, I am tired of being persecuted because I believe in God. Where is the tolerance from you for others?
I am not asking you to like it or even accept it, just tolerate it, without all the hate. :idea:
Personally, I am tired of being persecuted because I Don't believe in god. I am tired of Christians trying to impose their values on me and the rest of our diverse society.
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(this post is not an endorsement for or against a political figure!)
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/06/factchecking-bachmann/
Earlier this year, Bachmann falsely claimed that $105 billion in spending was "hidden" in the federal health care law and that this was done "secretly, unbeknownst to members of Congress." But Congress had debated several items Bachmann referred to as "hidden," such as $40 billion to fund the Children's Health Insurance Program for two years, $11 billion for community health centers and $5 billion to set up high-risk insurance pools.
In March, she wrongly said that the Obama administration had only issued one new oil drilling permit since the president took office. The real number was 276, according to the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement’s online database, as of the day of Bachmann's speech. It's now 296.
In a response speech to Tea Party Express activists after this year's State of the Union address, Bachmann said the bailout, or Troubled Asset Relief Program, signed into law by President George W. Bush, had cost taxpayers $700 billion. Actually, the net cost at the time was $25 billion. The Congressional Budget Office has since updated its estimate to $19 billion.
Last year, Bachmann made the greatly exaggerated claim that "now we have the federal government … taking over ownership or control of 51 percent of the American economy." But total government expenditures were 20.6 percent of gross domestic product in 2009, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. You have to go back to 1944 to find a time when government spending was close to 50 percent of GDP.
She twisted a report on Medicaid recipients and abortion into a bogus statistic when talking about the potential impact of the federal health care law on abortions. She said that "if there is taxpayer funding of abortion, there will be 30 percent more abortions." That would be about 360,000 more abortions each year. But the congresswoman was actually referring to an unrelated report from the Guttmacher Institute that said if Medicaid provided coverage for all abortions, there would be a 28 percent increase in the number of abortions among Medicaid beneficiaries in states that don't already pay for abortions beyond what federal law allows. Besides, the health care law doesn't change Medicaid rules on abortion funding.
Bachmann also has done her fair share of spreading false Internet-fueled rumors, like the off-base claim that Rep. Nancy Pelosi ran up a $100,000 "bar tab for alcohol" on congressional trips, and the highly doubtful assertion that Obama's trip to India last year cost $200 million per day. On the president's trip, Bachmann told CNN's Anderson Cooper that "these are the numbers that have been coming out in the press," but the unsupported figure came from one India news report based on an anonymous "top official" in Mumbai. She also was wrong when she said in June 2009 that the community group ACORN "will be in charge of going door-to-door and collecting data from the American public" as part of the census. ACORN was just one of more than 30,000 "partners" the Census Bureau had recruited to help publicize the 2010 census to encourage participation.
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How, in my short little post am I persecuting you for believing in god?
They say the eyes are the window to a person's soul. That's the only thing that worries me about her eyes. Which pretty much goes along with worrying about her brain and her mouth.
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Imagine the $$$$ BTO would get when they sue her for unauthorized use of their songs.
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It is the same way the Tea Party labels anyone that disagrees with them as 'Liberals'.
Also, no one is persecuting you because you, ''Believe in God". You are suffering from a victim's complex.
People give Christians shit whenever they try to impose their belief system on everyone else... i.e. Teacher lead prayer in public schools, teaching 'Creationism' in public schools, Ten Commandments in public buildings, etc...
You can have Christian lead prayer in school... as long as you also allow Muslim call to prayer in schools, too. Do you agree to that? It's not persecution... it is not allowing the establishment of one religion (over the others) in a tax payer funded environment. You can take your kids to a private Christian school and do as you please.
Hail, Hail!!!
amen. Wait, can I say that if I'm an atheist?
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My guess...
Even the money starved members of B.T.O. would issue a cease-and-desist order because they would rather continue playing in bowling alleys and the Modesto County Fair for free food and beer than have themselves linked to Michelle Bachmann's lunacy.
Hail, Hail!!!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
If she flip-flops on an issue we can call it "Bachman Turn Overdrive"
If she holds a bake sale we can call it a "Bachman Turnover Drive"
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btw, you're never going to get a straight answer from them on those two questions. They run like ants at the first sign of the bugspray of reason.
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Next time I try to get people to vote away your rights, keep you form holding specific jobs, take away your kids, fire you from your job and evicted from your home because you believe in God, call me.
When you can't sponsor your spouse for a green card, are deported from the country, and strung up and beaten to death for believing in God, call me.
Until then, you don't know what "persecuted" means. Please stop using the word.
Randy Bachman is a Canadian and quite liberal. He'd probably drive to Wisconsin himself and hit her over the head with a beaver.
Of course you're not and in my big long post I didn't either.
I, in fact, pointed out how THEY persecute US for not being enough like THEM.