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unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
edited May 2013 in A Moving Train
Blame Bush, right?

Change indeed.
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    :roll:
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Obama blames the haggling in congress and the tea party. He seems to forget the tea party was his doing. Pushing Obama care down Americas throat against to will of the people...
    They are his doing.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    :roll:
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    What specifically would you have done differently?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,633
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    Huh. Sounds like Bush to me.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    mickeyrat wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    Huh. Sounds like Bush to me.

    this all started Jan 2009
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    keeponrockin wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    What specifically would you have done differently?
    Not gone after the growth machine that made this country so strong with the prospect of higher taxes and regulation which in turn made the entrepreneurs dig in and take their toys away from the playground.
    That is what I would have done, specifically.
    Obama said he wanted to split the pie...
    Obama said that the wealthy can afford to pay more taxes
    Obama suggested taxing savings to get the money (not his mind you) working.
    Last I checked American corporations were flush with over a trillion in cash, on the sidelines, because their is no clarity or leadership.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,633
    edited August 2011
    Smellyman wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    Huh. Sounds like Bush to me.

    this all started Jan 2009

    What kind of Genius goes from a SURPLUS to a deficit? Mr Bush, thats who.
    Did it now? I say it started with Reagan. Trickle down my ass. Still waiting for the trickledown. Spend to the hilt, raise the debt ceiling several times, raised taxes many times.
    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    Smellyman wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    Huh. Sounds like Bush to me.

    this all started Jan 2009

    keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better :lol:
    'blame the other guys, it's the american way" fk yeah!!!

    left-right-center, the market does not discriminate.
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  • Cool Face RyanCool Face Ryan Posts: 1,254
    i have no clue whats going on in this country but it all sounds like its heading in the wrong direction, slowly(?) but surely.

    fuck this shit im out to canada. still get PJ, professional sports, and all the syrup I want. Flapjacks ftw
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    It was sunny outside today... the market went down 634 points... therefore the Sun caused the market to go down.
    CONservative governMENt

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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    umm... I told you this was going to happen. But, it's not funny. This is really no joke here.
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  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    Cool Face Ryan wrote:
    i have no clue whats going on in this country but it all sounds like its heading in the wrong direction, slowly(?) but surely.

    fuck this shit im out to canada. still get PJ, professional sports, and all the syrup I want. Flapjacks ftw

    head down to argentina or brazil, flush w/natural resources, rational fiscal policy, sound investments in infrastructure and education for the future. wife wants us both to learn spanish and go south for 10 years or so. at least i'll have a better chance of seeing pj versus being stuck in houston...
    San Diego Sports Arena - Oct 25, 2000
    MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
    Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
    New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
    Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
    Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
    EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
    Dallas-November 2013
    OKC-November 2013
    ACL 2-October 2014
    Fenway Night 1, August 2016
    Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
    Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
    Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
    Austin, Night 1 September 2023
    Austin, Night 2 September 2023
  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    FiveB247x wrote:
    It was sunny outside today... the market went down 634 points... therefore the Sun caused the market to go down.

    this, and did you not get the memo; the history of usa began in 2009! my steelers only have 1 ring, fk that!
    San Diego Sports Arena - Oct 25, 2000
    MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
    Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
    New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
    Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
    Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
    EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
    Dallas-November 2013
    OKC-November 2013
    ACL 2-October 2014
    Fenway Night 1, August 2016
    Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
    Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
    Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
    Austin, Night 1 September 2023
    Austin, Night 2 September 2023
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    RFTC wrote:
    Smellyman wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    Huh. Sounds like Bush to me.

    this all started Jan 2009

    keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better :lol:
    'blame the other guys, it's the american way" fk yeah!!!

    left-right-center, the market does not discriminate.

    I guess the America way is to not put on your thinking cap and do little critical thinking.

    When did this start? Why did this start?
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    RFTC wrote:
    Cool Face Ryan wrote:
    i have no clue whats going on in this country but it all sounds like its heading in the wrong direction, slowly(?) but surely.

    fuck this shit im out to canada. still get PJ, professional sports, and all the syrup I want. Flapjacks ftw

    head down to argentina or brazil, flush w/natural resources, rational fiscal policy, sound investments in infrastructure and education for the future. wife wants us both to learn spanish and go south for 10 years or so. at least i'll have a better chance of seeing pj versus being stuck in houston...
    you know Argentina was basically a test case for (ir)rational free market capitalism right? it failed so spectacularly that its economy is still recovering. beautiful country nonetheless.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    If you knew this was going to happen, you should have capitalized on.. it wouldn't have been that hard either.

    And the real joke is on the American public... not the politicians, presidents or wall street - fuck all of them.
    inlet13 wrote:
    umm... I told you this was going to happen. But, it's not funny. This is really no joke here.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Blame Bush, right?

    Change indeed.
    ...
    You're smarter than that... aren't you?
    I mean... do you actually believe that all of this began on January 20, 2009? That none of what is happening today... is tied to what happened in 2007,2008 with the failures of Bear Sterns, Lehmann Brothers, the collapse of the mortgage housing market, toxic asstets, the near end of General Motors and Chrysler, the bailouts of the banking and financial systems? That the foreclosures have nothing to do with the bad loans?
    Do you REALLY believe it has nothing to do with anything prior to January of 2009???
    ...
    Seriously... I thought you were smarter than that. Was I wrong?
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    People seem to blame Bush for 9/11.
    How long was he in office? When did the terrorists start flight school in south Florida? Not sure, that's why I ask.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    You're generalizing and I don't know anyone who blames him directly for it. People may question the lack of his administration to take some threats seriously, which is pretty spot on, but with that said, 9-11 occurred because of decades of terrible decisions and inaction by several administrations.

    Lastly and more importantly, what's with the tit for tat mentality? What does it accomplish other than scapegoating and blaming others you don't agree with for issues that effect all of us? If all we do is turn everything into a partisan ping pong match, everyone loses. Our nation is already screwed up enough by what the politicians and big business's do, our citizens are just fueling the fire even more nowadays.

    usamamasan1 wrote:
    People seem to blame Bush for 9/11.
    How long was he in office? When did the terrorists start flight school in south Florida? Not sure, that's why I ask.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    edited August 2011
    if critical thinking means making statements like 'this all started in 2009' then you are way out my league bro', i may have missed your post thanking obama for our 'incredible market run from 8 to 12k', where were all the 'lets fellate obama for his stock market wizardry' posts over the last 2 years?

    fact, obama took office when dow was at 8k.

    fact, take a closer look at the ecb, they are where we were at in 2008. they WILL bring the usa into that quagmire. but you can still blame obama and feel good about it.
    Post edited by RFTC on
    San Diego Sports Arena - Oct 25, 2000
    MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
    Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
    New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
    Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
    Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
    EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
    Dallas-November 2013
    OKC-November 2013
    ACL 2-October 2014
    Fenway Night 1, August 2016
    Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
    Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
    Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
    Austin, Night 1 September 2023
    Austin, Night 2 September 2023
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Blame Bush, right?

    Change indeed.
    ...
    You're smarter than that... aren't you?
    I mean... do you actually believe that all of this began on January 20, 2009? That none of what is happening today... is tied to what happened in 2007,2008 with the failures of Bear Sterns, Lehmann Brothers, the collapse of the mortgage housing market, toxic asstets, the near end of General Motors and Chrysler, the bailouts of the banking and financial systems? That the foreclosures have nothing to do with the bad loans?
    Do you REALLY believe it has nothing to do with anything prior to January of 2009???
    ...
    Seriously... I thought you were smarter than that. Was I wrong?


    No, it did not start that day in January 2009. It started in 1913 with the start of the Federal Reserve. It continues because the federal government will not audit the Fed and also spends more money than it has.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    People seem to blame Bush for 9/11.
    How long was he in office? When did the terrorists start flight school in south Florida? Not sure, that's why I ask.
    ...
    Using your own logic against you....
    Since you think President Obama is responsible for everything from January 20, 2009 to August 8, 2011.... then, YOU must also believe that George W. Bush was responsible for September 11, 2001... right?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Reverse psychology... most impressive my young padewon!
    Cosmo wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    People seem to blame Bush for 9/11.
    How long was he in office? When did the terrorists start flight school in south Florida? Not sure, that's why I ask.
    ...
    Using your own logic against you....
    Since you think President Obama is responsible for everything from January 20, 2009 to August 8, 2011.... then, YOU must also believe that George W. Bush was responsible for September 11, 2001... right?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    unsung wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Blame Bush, right?

    Change indeed.
    ...
    You're smarter than that... aren't you?
    I mean... do you actually believe that all of this began on January 20, 2009? That none of what is happening today... is tied to what happened in 2007,2008 with the failures of Bear Sterns, Lehmann Brothers, the collapse of the mortgage housing market, toxic asstets, the near end of General Motors and Chrysler, the bailouts of the banking and financial systems? That the foreclosures have nothing to do with the bad loans?
    Do you REALLY believe it has nothing to do with anything prior to January of 2009???
    ...
    Seriously... I thought you were smarter than that. Was I wrong?


    No, it did not start that day in January 2009. It started in 1913 with the start of the Federal Reserve. It continues because the federal government will not audit the Fed and also spends more money than it has.
    ..
    Okaaaaaaaaay...
    Are you now saying that President Obama is responsible for decisions made in 1913? How old was he in 1913... like -48 or something?
    How did THAT happen?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    What specifically would you have done differently?
    Not gone after the growth machine that made this country so strong with the prospect of higher taxes and regulation which in turn made the entrepreneurs dig in and take their toys away from the playground.
    That is what I would have done, specifically.
    Obama said he wanted to split the pie...
    Obama said that the wealthy can afford to pay more taxes
    Obama suggested taxing savings to get the money (not his mind you) working.
    Last I checked American corporations were flush with over a trillion in cash, on the sidelines, because their is no clarity or leadership.
    So why didn't the economy grow under GWB, when he did exactly what you recommended?
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    RFTC wrote:
    if critical thinking means making statements like 'this all started in 2009' then you are way out my league bro', i may have missed your post thanking obama for our 'incredible market run from 8 to 12k', where were all the 'lets fellate obama for his stock market wizardry' posts over the last 2 years?

    fact, obama took office when dow was at 8k.

    fact, take a closer look at the ecb, they are where we were at in 2008. they WILL bring the usa into that quagmire. but you can still blame obama and feel good about it.

    lol. I think we have a case of mistaken postings. I was being sarcastic that it all started in 09'.

    we agree.......
  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    Smellyman wrote:
    RFTC wrote:
    if critical thinking means making statements like 'this all started in 2009' then you are way out my league bro', i may have missed your post thanking obama for our 'incredible market run from 8 to 12k', where were all the 'lets fellate obama for his stock market wizardry' posts over the last 2 years?

    fact, obama took office when dow was at 8k.

    fact, take a closer look at the ecb, they are where we were at in 2008. they WILL bring the usa into that quagmire. but you can still blame obama and feel good about it.

    lol. I think we have a case of mistaken postings. I was being sarcastic that it all started in 09'.

    we agree.......

    ouch, my bad. i have read some really odd logic around the AMT recently. here hoping obama can pull
    of some market fireworks tmrw w/a dead cat bounce!
    San Diego Sports Arena - Oct 25, 2000
    MGM Grand - Jul 6, 2006
    Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
    New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival - May 1, 2010
    Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
    Made In America, Philly - Sep 2, 2012
    EV, Houston - Nov 12-13, 2012
    Dallas-November 2013
    OKC-November 2013
    ACL 2-October 2014
    Fenway Night 1, August 2016
    Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
    Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
    Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
    Austin, Night 1 September 2023
    Austin, Night 2 September 2023
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    keeponrockin wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Failed economic leadership and uncertainty in the markets....
    PROGRESS!
    What specifically would you have done differently?


    i would have let the banks and gm fail....right then and there.

    too big to fail, my ass
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