hoodwinked

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edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
Savage: America has been 'hoodwinked'
Talk host warns of 'Leninist' president's doomed path, offers 'better idea'

Posted: August 02, 2011
12:40 pm Eastern

WND

As the U.S. Congress came to an agreement on a budget that purportedly would avoid the nation's first-ever default, talk-radio host Michael Savage warned his audience not to listen to voices on the left declaring it a victory for the tea party.

"If the left is telling you it's a victory for the tea party, then you know it's a lie," he said to his "Savage Nation" listeners.

Freshman Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who was elected by the tea party movement, has pointed out that while the congressional deal touts a "cut" of $2.1 trillion, the best-case scenario would result in an additional $7 trillion in debt over the next 10 years.

"You're being hoodwinked again," Savage said.

He said today's politicians need to learn lessons from history to understand what Obama is doing, asserting that the term "Leninist" better describes the president and his policies than "Marxist."

"Lenin thought that a nation could only grow more prosperous when a nation is controlled by a vanguard and elite – a people who know better than you what to do with your property," he explained. "The Leninist elite would lead people to a world free of pain and poverty. There would be no more haves and have-nots or private property. Just boundless prosperity. All a nation had to do was transfer its entire wealth to Lenin's vanguard."

But the Leninist vision had consequences, Savage noted, aside from the well-documented horrors of Soviet tyranny.

"America's rich will be poorer, America's poor will be poorer, America's middle class will be wiped out," Savage said. "But America's government will be more powerful than ever, as will the elected officials and their corrupt bureaucrats."

Obama can't take wealth from the rich at gunpoint, as Lenin did in Russia, Savage said, "so he has to use taxation and regulation."

"Over the past three decades, this government has been taking wealth from the producers, the job creators, the savers and the innovators," said Savage.

He pointed out that in 1987, the richest 1 percent paid roughly one quarter of all income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid 6 percent.

But just 20 years later, the richest 1 percent were paying 40 percent of all income taxes and the bottom 50 percent were paying just under 3 percent.

"The productive class is already picking up a disproportionate share of our government's tab, and still, things seem to be getting worse," Savage said.

"We have a government running record deficits, we have millions upon millions who are underemployed or, worse, unemployed; we have a socialized medical plan called Medicare Part A that will go bust in 2017; the United States has at least $50 trillion in unfunded obligations – all on account of policy makers like Obama who think that the redistribution of wealth makes a nation richer not poorer."

Savage offered a "better idea."

"Let's not raise taxes for the producers. Let's cut their taxes," he said. "Let's let the producers keep their money and invest it in their ideas.

"If the idea works, they will create jobs and empower individuals," he continued. "If the idea fails, then it is back to the drawing board without a government check."

The advantage of this approach, he said, "is that it rewards the producers without empowering the bureaucrats, and as the producers grow wealthy, so does the nation."

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  • maj4emaj4e Posts: 605
    Not necessarily a fan of the President (I did vote for him) but the post lost me at Leninist. I'm a serious history guy and most of these people have zero idea what they're referencing when they invoke communist, nazi etc.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    can't we once and for all put a nail in the coffin of trickle down economics!?? ... i mean conservatives have been beating that drum for years now and it just doesn't work ...

    having said that ... the people have been hoodwinked ... that's for damn sure ...
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    maj4e wrote:
    Not necessarily a fan of the President (I did vote for him) but the post lost me at Leninist. I'm a serious history guy and most of these people have zero idea what they're referencing when they invoke communist, nazi etc.
    100% agreed here.

    where do people like this get a platform to spread outright disinformation and buzzwords like this?

    it is just another way to project his own paranoia and anger onto the unsuspecting audience...

    by the way it is a victory for the tea party. they control less than 25% of the house seats, yet they got what they wanted out of this turd of a bill.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    I'd reply, but this member of the non-productive class has to go to work.
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    anybody that listens to these talk show hosts should be slapped.

    i don't know how people do it.

    and as far as laying the blame at obama's feet, didn't the house and senate write and vote on it? yeah, i thought so.

    at the end of the day, we are going to have to raise taxes (no it's not "revenue") if we want to reduce teh debt and fund the country. we also will need to cut pork spending and eliminate fraud/waste from the system.
    81 is now off the air

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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    edited August 2011
    Savage is comical. The funny part is that he lives in San Fran. Im surprised he hasn't had a grabber yet.
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  • bigdvsbigdvs Posts: 235
    shadowcast wrote:
    Savage is comical.

    what is more funny what he says or the reaction it gets him?
    "The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
    — Socrates

  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    shadowcast wrote:
    Savage is comical. The funny part is that he lives in San Fran. Im surprised he hasn't had a grabber yet.

    color me naive, what is a 'grabber'?

    and congrats to baby smoking avatar guy, 17k posts. i should get there at age 247...
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Wow, Savage and world net daily in one post.


    I am serious when I say you are better off watching Fox News. :lol:
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    81 wrote:
    anybody that listens to these talk show hosts should be slapped.

    i don't know how people do it.

    and as far as laying the blame at obama's feet, didn't the house and senate write and vote on it? yeah, i thought so.

    at the end of the day, we are going to have to raise taxes (no it's not "revenue") if we want to reduce teh debt and fund the country. we also will need to cut pork spending and eliminate fraud/waste from the system.

    We could just stop spending so much.
  • cross7806cross7806 Posts: 222
    We could also take the money back that all politicians line their pockets with.
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