Has anyone figured out who this is . . . ?

Crazy Marcus

This picture is very visible during Water On the Road and this still continues to be set up on stage during the most recent solo shows. Any ideas?

ms.honeymeister

You are looking at a picture of Bears Belly, an Arikara indian man wearing a bear skin costume. It was taken in 1908 by Edward S. Curtis.

you can get a copy here...
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Arikara-I ... 38069_.htm

theserialthrilla

gold star for ms.honeymeister

Crazy Marcus

ms.honeymeister wrote:

You are looking at a picture of Bears Belly, an Arikara indian man wearing a bear skin costume. It was taken in 1908 by Edward S. Curtis.

you can get a copy here...
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Arikara-I ... 38069_.htm

Bravo! Any idea why Ed has this out on stage with him?

ms.honeymeister

why he has it there... no clue.

Slap upside the head

Crazy Marcus wrote:

ms.honeymeister wrote:

You are looking at a picture of Bears Belly, an Arikara indian man wearing a bear skin costume. It was taken in 1908 by Edward S. Curtis.

you can get a copy here...
http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Arikara-I ... 38069_.htm

Bravo! Any idea why Ed has this out on stage with him?

Distant relative or his new publicist.

cbrunelle783

Because Ed's cool like that, duh

Champagne Breakfast

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

RKCNDY

Bears Belly: Born in 1847 at Fort Clark in the present North Dakota. He became a member of the Bears in the medicine fraternity. Famous warrior in the Arikara tribe in the Great Plains.

The photo is a slide from The Indian Picture Opera

Wiki: The Indian Picture Opera is a magic lantern slide show by photographer Edward S. Curtis. In the early 1900's, Curtis published the renowned 20-volume book subscription entitled "The North American Indian". He compiled about 2400 photographs with detailed ethnological and language studies of tribes of the American West.

In 1911, in an effort to promote his book sales, Curtis created a traveling Magic Lantern slide show "The Indian Picture Opera".

Stereo-Opticon projectors put Curtis's stunning images on screens in America's largest cities.... one scene dissolving into another. A small orchestra played music derived from Indian chants and rhythms, and Edward Curtis lectured on the intimate stories of tribal life.

This Magic Lantern show played to breathless audiences, stunned by the humanity, fascinated by the imagery, and shamed by the destruction of Indian cultures. The shows received standing ovations, and generous reviews.

A re-created/updated version was released in 2006-by a company here in the Seattle area: http://www.magiclanternsociety.org/index.html

purchase the DVD here: http://www.amazon.com/Indian-Picture-Op ... B000JUBF0K

I cannot find any info on the music used in the updated version of the DVD...possibly has ties to Ed? Or Ed is part of the Magic Lantern Society?

pandora

a couple cool accounts...

Bear’s Belly

Arikara
1847-aft. 1912
Indian Scout




Bear's Belly or ku'nuh kana'nu was born in 1847 at Ft. Clark. His first war experience was at the age of nineteen he enlisted at Ft. Abraham Lincoln with Custer's 7th Cavalry and was deployed to Black Hills country. During this campaign they ran into a small camp of Sioux where he was able to count (2) first coups and (1) second coup. Upon his return home Bear's Belly fasted and cut skin offerings to a buffalo skull alter on the outskirts of the village. In the same year Bear's Belly married and later became a member of the Bears medicine fraternity. To fulfill one of the needs of being a member he sought to get a bear skin. The following is a narration of his quest:

"Needing a bear-skin in my medicine-making, I went, at the season when the leaves were turning brown, into the White Clay hills. All the thought of my heart that day was to see a bear and kill him. I passed an eagle-trap, but did not stop: it was a bear I wanted, not an eagle. Coming suddenly to the brink of a cliff I saw below me three bears. My heart wished to go two ways: I wanted a bear, but to fight three was hard. I decided to try it, and, descending, crept up to within forty yards of them, where I stopped to look around for a way of escape if they charged me. The only way out was by the cliff, and as I could not climb well in moccasins I removed them. One bear was standing with his side toward me, another was walking slowly toward him on the other side. I waited until the second one was close to the first, and pulled the trigger. The farther one fell; the bullet had passed through the body of one and into the brain of the other. The wounded one charged, and I ran, loading my rifle, then turned and shot again, breaking his backbone. He lay there on the ground only ten paces from me, and I could see his face twitching. A noise caused me to remember the third bear, which I saw rushing upon me only six or seven paces away. I was yelling to keep up my courage, and the bear was growling in his anger. He rose on his hindlegs, and I shot, with my gun nearly touching his chest. He gave a howl and ran off. The bear with the broken back was dragging himself about with his forelegs, and I went to him and said, , I came looking for you to be my friend, to be with me always.' Then I reloaded my gun and shot him . through the head. His skin I kept, but the other two I sold." [Curtis, North American Indian, v.5 p.178]

Another story of hunting bear:

"One Fall Red Star and Bear's Belly went out hunting bear. They tracked one bear to the river and across the sand up to a cut bank cave. They went to the entrance and looked in but could not stir him. Bear's Belly went up the bank to the other entrance and seeing the bear's head shot at him. He sank out of sight and the two men crawled into the den about eight feet and began poking him to find out whether he was dead or alive. At last they found him dead, Bear's Belly and Red Star had a hard time dragging him out of the cave because he was very heavy. Bear's Belly took the head and skin to use in a ceremonial dance. In order to use this skin he had to drag it home by means of thongs fastened to his own flesh. Red Star cut two gashes in Bear's Belly's back and fastened the rawhide thongs as done in the Sun Dance. Red Star went on ahead after doing this for his companion and left him to drag the hide painfully the whole way home. When Red Star reached camp he told the old men that Bear's Belly was dragging the hide into the camp, and several of them went out to help him whenever his load got caught on anything. He did not make it to camp intil the next night." [Libby, Arikara Narrative, p.199]

His next tour of duty was with the Custer Surveying expedition in June of 1875. The expedition was responsible for finding gold in the Black Hills close to the Shell River, and the ensuing gold rush. In August of 1912, nine survivors of some forty members of the Arikara Scouts came together at Bear's Belly home at Armstrong on the Ft. Berthold Reservation to tell their stories to the secretary of the State Historical Society.

Sources:

Libby, O.G. The Arikara Narrative of the campaign against the Hostile Dakotas, June, 1876. Rio Grande Press, Inc. Glorieta, N.M. 1976.

Curtis, Edward S., 1868-1952. The North American Indian, being a series of volumes picturing and describing the Indians of the United States and Alaska. New York, Johnson Reprint Corp. [1970, c1907-30], p.178.

perhaps Ed has it for spiritual and physical support ...
you can channel a lot of strength from a picture

I love history now... so late in life but it makes much more sense to study it now and hold it in high regard

BrainofBGA

I asked the same question on this very board a couple of weeks ago...

Someone told me it was Chief Seattle. ??

RedMosquito22

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

It's red Gatorade. It's the same thing that is always in the 2nd bottle of wine he has on stage as well.

DriftingByTheStorm

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

It's red Gatorade. It's the same thing that is always in the 2nd bottle of wine he has on stage as well.

Now WAIT a mad minute here.
You mean he is playing TRICKS on us?

This is like the friend of a friend of mine who was an airline pilot and an old-time drinker. He had recently begun to drink in moderation, but didn't want people at the bar to think he was a pussy. So instead of "wussing out", he would order one vodka tonic, and then he had an arrangement with the bartender where he would continue to hand him old fashioned glasses, but filled only with sprite. The ruse worked great, and no one thought he was a pussy. Like i said, it worked great ... that is, until the day someone called the airline and reported that they had seen their pilot out at the bar very late the night before their red-eye flight, and that they saw him drink no less than a half dozen liquor drinks.

Needless to say, the intelligence of his ruse then came in to question.
lol.

It's okay that you're getting old, Eddie.
Come to the south, and have your fill of SWEET TEA.

RedMosquito22

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Now WAIT a mad minute here.
You mean he is playing TRICKS on us?

He sure is.

JimmyV

pandora wrote:

I love history now... so late in life but it makes much more sense to study it now and hold it in high regard

Never too late to start!

pandora

JimmyV wrote:

pandora wrote:

I love history now... so late in life but it makes much more sense to study it now and hold it in high regard

Never too late to start!

:thumbup: yes!

and history doesn't change but it does repeat itself
so you can apply it to today and one's own life.

While tracing my family tree I found its good to understand
what my family and others were experiencing at the time.
Incredible hardships, adventures, discoveries... it's thrilling.
And I've leaned more about geography too.
I might have goofed off a lot in school thinking it unimportant
because it wasn't my world.

And I enjoyed my recent study into Abe Lincoln, thanks to a nice friend here. :wave:

thefixer9

That's weird, we have a painting of that picture in our house, clang believe I did t notice!

Champagne Breakfast

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

It's red Gatorade. It's the same thing that is always in the 2nd bottle of wine he has on stage as well.

Really? How do you know that? Its always wine in the bottles he hands out to the crowd during CM.

Go Beavers

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

It's red Gatorade. It's the same thing that is always in the 2nd bottle of wine he has on stage as well.

Really? How do you know that? Its always wine in the bottles he hands out to the crowd during CM.

I read about the Gatorade in the second bottle thing on here about a year or two ago. People were pretty certain about it.

DS1119

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

RedMosquito22 wrote:

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

i wonder that red drink is too? noticed that on stage every single ev show. little magic potion

It's red Gatorade. It's the same thing that is always in the 2nd bottle of wine he has on stage as well.

Really? How do you know that? Its always wine in the bottles he hands out to the crowd during CM.

The second one is gatorade, powerade, something like that.

usamamasan1

This isn't the same dude munk one has on the Minneapolis poster is it?
Who is that guy then?
Woot!