boy, 14, sentenced in Mexico for cartel killings
mysticweed
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holy fucking hell man
MEXICO CITY — A 14-year-old U.S. citizen charged in Mexico as having worked as a drug cartel hitman was found guilty of homicide on Tuesday and sentenced to three years in prison, the maximum for minors.
Edgar Jimenez Lugo, who was born in San Diego, allegedly worked for the Beltran Leyva brothers' drug cartel in Morelos state, outside Mexico City.
The attorney general's office in Morelos said a local juvenile court had convicted him of various crimes — including killing four people whose mutilated bodies were found hanging from a bridge not far from Mexico City last August.
The boy was caught last December as he boarded a plane in the city of Cuernavaca. He was traveling to the border city of Tijuana with two of his sisters, one of whom is believed to be the lover of one of the cartel's bosses, the Mexican army said at the time.
Jimenez first made headlines last November as reports of his grisly murders, including beheadings, surfaced.
Once arrested, he acknowledged having killed at least seven people under the influence of drugs provided by a cartel leader, according to the army statement.
He was eventually charged in four murders and three kidnappings."
MEXICO CITY — A 14-year-old U.S. citizen charged in Mexico as having worked as a drug cartel hitman was found guilty of homicide on Tuesday and sentenced to three years in prison, the maximum for minors.
Edgar Jimenez Lugo, who was born in San Diego, allegedly worked for the Beltran Leyva brothers' drug cartel in Morelos state, outside Mexico City.
The attorney general's office in Morelos said a local juvenile court had convicted him of various crimes — including killing four people whose mutilated bodies were found hanging from a bridge not far from Mexico City last August.
The boy was caught last December as he boarded a plane in the city of Cuernavaca. He was traveling to the border city of Tijuana with two of his sisters, one of whom is believed to be the lover of one of the cartel's bosses, the Mexican army said at the time.
Jimenez first made headlines last November as reports of his grisly murders, including beheadings, surfaced.
Once arrested, he acknowledged having killed at least seven people under the influence of drugs provided by a cartel leader, according to the army statement.
He was eventually charged in four murders and three kidnappings."
fuck 'em if they can't take a joke
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
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to be able torture,beat with a 2X4,slice throats then decapitate four grown men and hang their bodies
from a bridge..... frontal lobe is very thin, this kid is cut a drifferent mold all together to be able
to exacute such an order at 13 to 14 years old.
soooooo anybody still want to legalize drug's ?
Godfather.
Most definitely, yes. Opposite outcome.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
yep, this kind of thing would happen less and less every day
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
it may remove "some" of the danger from the cartels but what these drugs do to the human mind is as dangerous, and with such a hold on the US drug market do you really think the cartels will just stop if drugs were leagalized ? price's may go down but the black market for drug's would still thrive and the war's for territory would still be here.
really you guy's don't kid your selfs.
Godfather.
I would be one that would say legalize it all. I would look to portugal as an example of how to decriminalize drugs. they have actually seen drug use decrease since legalizing them earlier.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article ... 46,00.html
I would take it one step further and allow the wholesale distribution to become a business regulated much like alcohol and cigarettes. I am not much for regulation of things, but would be willing to make a concession here if it meant the legalization. I am not a drug user today, and wouldn't be tomorrow if they were legalized, (maybe weed) but the crime that is associated with them is far too costly to not try a change in philosophy...and the drug cartels would lose all power. Look at the repeal of the Volstead act and its effect on crime. If all the synthetics have taught us anything, it is impossible to stop people from getting high, they will always do it, they might as well be able to do it safely and without repercussions simply from using...
Will there still be a black market...sure, will it be nearly the problem it is today? no way...and without billions in profits the cartels will begin losing much of their power...the dollars will stay home and the industry will be booming. I am not sure how much tax revenue would be raised, and that shouldn't be the chief concern, but it would be a nice secondary benefit.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
what happened after the Volstead act was repealed? Is there still a giant black market for alcohol? are people being killed over territory?
Don't kid yourself Godfather...if someone wants to do drugs they will, they might as well be able to do it safely and without fear...if I sit at home and smoke weed or use heroin, how would that hurt anyone else but me.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
It was actually decriminalized...which is quite different than legalized.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10080
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
you could be right and maybe not who knows, if it did work I would support it but we're talking about a country who's primary source of income is drugs their cash crop and lets face it the drug lords run the country from the inside and have the money to buy almost anybody and anything...I wonder if they contributed to the obama fund to help push imigration reform
Godfather.
:?
Godfather.
which is why I said it
I also said I would take it a step further.
edit : i see where I made the syntax error on the third read through
shoudl have said decriminalize twice, went a little quickly I suppose
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
right, and if you take away the incentive to grow the cash crop by making it legal here, it takes away the cartels power...they sell it to us after all...
and yes, if someone wants to go home and relax with a beer, or some H or both what is it to you? how does it affect you? The answer is... it wouldn't most of the time and until it does the person should not be in fear of the police. If they get high on drugs and rob/kill someone, make that a stiffer punishment, but don't make the simple act of drug use a crime. I think people have this idea of barter town in their heads when they think about what would happen from drug legalization, or at the very least decriminalization.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
My apologies...marijuana is one thing...coke, crack, meth, heroin, they are all different animals, highly addictive...I have my doubts that this would get rid of the dealer...I'm guessing most people who do these drugs are doing it to get high...probably a lot of people who like alcohol like the taste of beer or rum or whatever your drink of choice is...I myself enjoy a nice beer or nice glass of rum and coke and enjoy the taste and don't need to get drunk.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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the simple act of drug use ? wow ! I have feeling you have never experianced drug addiction or seen on a personal level the thing's that addicted user's do to support their habbit's or the change that comes over them from years of "simple drug use" or the lives that they change or distroy do to their addiction.
there is no such thing as a "simple user"when you are talking about heroin or coke amd meth.
look at what oxycotton is doing to people and it's legal with a scrip right ? it's so profitable that doctors are are writing scrip and working with some pharmicys to cash in...but what's it to you as long they don't rob you or steal your car or hurt someone you love right ?
it's a sticky situation mike not as cut and clean as it may sound.
Godfather.
If it doesn't affect you or others, what right do you have to tell me what I can do with my body? When you affect others there are problems...if you neglect a child, there is punishment for that....when you rob someone, there is a punishment for that...if it were easier to get the drugs and at a lower cost would we still see those things happening? We see all that now, what would be the difference if it were decriminalized...
You are right, I have never been addicted to drugs, but that doesn't mean I don't know what happens to people who are addicted, I have seen it first hand and it doesn't change my position at all...A buddy of mine's addiction was crack, and it almost killed him...Doesn't change the fact that he made a lot of the bad choices he made because he had to go underground to support that lifestyle...
If you look at the study you would see that drug use DECREASED as a result of the decriminalization, those in rehab and therapy INCREASED, and drug related deaths DECREASED...if that is your goal and from your comments it looks like it is, why would you not support and encourage a policy that lead to those types of numbers?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
as I said earlier if worked I would support it , but studies where ? it's a whole different game in the US I believe.
and besides we have mexico right next door to keep a black market alive. I just don't like the idea of it all
I've seen too much.
Godfather.
fair enough, we certainly can agree to disagree. The study I was referencing is about Portugal's decision to decriminalize drugs. it doesn't seem like you aren't understanding the point about the black market though...it won't be nearly what it is today with legal and cheap drugs available...which takes away the power of the drug cartels...We don't need to worry about mexico, we need to worry about the US and movements like this cannot be tried here if people don't support it first...Click on the link I provided earlier and read about Portugal.
Who do you think wants to keep drugs illegal the most? the god damn cartels and the DEA
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
just legalizing pot would be a max for me I might say o.k to that but the other drug's worry me, if pot we're legal our prison system would open up a little making room for the real dirt bag's.
Godfather.
and again blah blah blah
blah
Chadwick.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Godfather.
The same type of statements were said about alcohol during prohibition.
Godfather.
fuck yes
"what a long, strange trip it's been"