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aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
edited July 2011 in A Moving Train
3 girls busted for illegal lemonade stand
'We were not aware of how the lemonade was made, who made the lemonade, of what the lemonade was made with,' says police chief in Midway, Ga.


Three girls trying to raise money to go to a waterpark thought that a lemonade stand would do the trick. But then they met the long arm of the law — their local police chief.

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The girls had started up their stand in Midway, Ga., when Police Chief Kelly Morningstar and a deputy drove by.

"They told us to shut it down," 10-year-old Skylar Roberts was quoted as saying by The Coastal Source news website.

"It’s kind of crazy that we couldn’t sell lemonade," added 14-year-old Casity Dixon. "It was fun, but we had to listen to the cops and shut it down."

Morningstar defended his action and received the support of Midway's mayor. "We had told them, 'We understand you guys are young, but still, you’re breaking the law, and we can’t let you do it anymore,'" Morningstar said. "The law is the law, and we have to be consistent with how we enforce the laws."

That city law requires a business and food permits ($50 a day), even if the stand was at the home of one of the girls.

Health issues were also a concern, Morningstar said. "We were not aware of how the lemonade was made, who made the lemonade, of what the lemonade was made with, so we acted accordingly by city ordinance,” he said.

News of the bust caused an outpouring of local support for the trio — and The Coastal Source said it had given the girls tickets to the waterpark.



Lemonade Stand Shut Down, Midway Girls Continue Business Ventures



The feedback and comments keep piling up about a story we brought you first on WJCL News at 11. Three girls' lemonade stand was shut down because Midway police said they did not have a business license.

The response has been overwhelming through Facebook, Twitter, emails, and phone calls. People are just outraged that Midway police would shut down three girls' lemonade stand, and their dreams of going to the water park this summer.

On WJCL FOX28 The Coastal Source Facebook page, Skip Jennings said, “I'm happy to hear that the crime rate in Midway is so low that the police are down to busting lemonade stands!”

Randy Buck wrote, “The next big bust will be kids mowing grass in the neighborhood.”

Don Lewis commented, “What world do we live in, seriously? What mood was the police in on that day? Let’s hope that someone like the Mayor or Council comes to their aid in this!”

In a conversation on Thursday, the Mayor told us she stands by the police and their decision to enforce the law. Many of you asked how you can help donate to the girls' water park funds, but the Mom, Amy Roberts, said she is grateful for the offers but doesn't want money. The whole point of the lemonade stand was to teach her daughters the importance of money and responsibility.



"[When I saw the cops] I said, take the stuff down. I don't want them disobeying the law. I'm trying to teach them a good thing by making them earn their own money to do fun things. I got a damper put in my way of trying to teach too. They've asked the neighbor if they can go over there and rake her yard and dust for her. They're still trying," Roberts said.





While we know Roberts is teaching her daughters responsibility, The Coastal Source wanted to help achieve their dreams and gave four tickets to go to Splash in the Boro.
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    it doesnt really say if they were on their own property.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    that such bull shit
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    blame the people that passed the law. the cops just enforced the laws on the books.

    seriously though, how are you to know if they made it with clean utensils? what would have happened if all of their customers got sick? also there was a permit required $50 a day to do anything of this nature, and the did not have it.

    i remember selling candy bars for my baseball teams as a kid and i would go to the local grocery store and catch people on the way out. i had to get permission from the store manager and i had to check in with the security guard, an off duty cop, upon arrival and upon leaving. i didn't complain, i jumped through the hoops i had to jump through in order to unload my candy bars and raise money for my teams. it is not that difficult really.

    also, i believe the use of the word "tyranny" to describe this situation is a little overbolwn.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    blame the people that passed the law. the cops just enforced the laws on the books.

    seriously though, how are you to know if they made it with clean utensils? what would have happened if all of their customers got sick? also there was a permit required $50 a day to do anything of this nature, and the did not have it.

    i remember selling candy bars for my baseball teams as a kid and i would go to the local grocery store and catch people on the way out. i had to get permission from the store manager and i had to check in with the security guard, an off duty cop, upon arrival and upon leaving. i didn't complain, i jumped through the hoops i had to jump through in order to unload my candy bars and raise money for my teams. it is not that difficult really.

    also, i believe the use of the word "tyranny" to describe this situation is a little overbolwn.
    Dude...do you need to disagree with aerial that badly? :lol::D I kid...but c'mon...it's a lemonade stand. I absolutely blame the officers involved in this one. The ONLY reason I can see ANY reason to shut them down is if, as someone said, they were on someone else's property, and the owner complained. And if that's the case, the owner's a dick too. I highly, highly doubt anyone is going to get sick from utensils used to make lemonade....not like these kids are prepping raw chicken at their booth or anything.....Who would have known they'd need a permit for a bloodly lemonade stand? This is something kids have done for decades without harassment...

    They're kids....leave them alone. I'm sure they'll grow to have a lot of respect law enforcement after this. we can only hope that the cops were very, very polite to them, and didn't scare them at all......I'd be pissed if these were my kids.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    At least they weren't tasered.....
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Jeeeeeeeez.
    I know there is protocol but... it's a lemonade stand!
    I guess they are 14 years old though, that seems a bit old for a lemonade stand :S

    But still.
    No need for the popo to be so... sour.
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  • Oh those damn conservatives.

    They need their money, no matter what.

    They need to wring their money from anyone, even kids.

    Ok, sorry, I can't even feign this.

    There are rules. We all have to follow them. If I can't get married because I'm gay... then kids can't open a business without a permit because they're kids. If I have to pay my taxes and follow the rules then so does anyone who wants to open a business and it doesn't matter if they're 14 or 64.

    If you want to "make some money" you have to have a permit, you have to follow the rules. If you want to make food for people to eat or drink... you can't just pour a yellow liquid into glasses and say "it's lemonade." If any hotdog stand owned by and adult has to meet health regulations, so does a lemonade stand run by a kid.

    You want to just let kids do whatever.... well change the law.

    And can we PLEASE stop throwing such silly phony indignation machine dance parties? This song is really getting tired.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Oh those damn conservatives.

    They need their money, no matter what.

    They need to wring their money from anyone, even kids.

    Ok, sorry, I can't even feign this.

    There are rules. We all have to follow them. If I can't get married because I'm gay... then kids can't open a business without a permit because they're kids. If I have to pay my taxes and follow the rules then so does anyone who wants to open a business and it doesn't matter if they're 14 or 64.

    If you want to "make some money" you have to have a permit, you have to follow the rules. If you want to make food for people to eat or drink... you can't just pour a yellow liquid into glasses and say "it's lemonade." If any hotdog stand owned by and adult has to meet health regulations, so does a lemonade stand run by a kid.

    You want to just let kids do whatever.... well change the law.

    And can we PLEASE stop throwing such silly phony indignation machine dance parties? This song is really getting tired.

    Not sure who you're mocking with your last line....the people who think this was a ridiculous waste of resources for the police to harass them? Or the police for making a big deal of this?

    And man...yes, your issue is a totally valid one, and I think you have every right to be pissed, and that you SHOULD point out hypocrisy as it relates to your plight....but this issue is about as deserving of a gay marriage analogy as it is to one of tyranny....or are you just joining the indignation dance party?

    When I first read the article, I missed that one kid was 14...was under the impression that they were both around 10...a 14 year old can join the workforce; they should be doing something else...still...the laws are in place to regulate businesses. Th hot dog stand analogy is valid if these kids set up outside a baseball stadium or in a downtown park (I don't know where they were)...but if they were in front of their house like 99% of lemonade stands are, I don't think its a fair one.

    Its a bit much to apply a slippery slope argument here...does anyone really worry that we're headed toward a kind of hell where 40 year old men will be peddling unlicensed food products on every street corner, causing death and disease...where we charge kids with tax evasion for mowing lawns and getting undeclared allowances, and their child-labour bosses/parents under investigation too...... so stupid we're even having this discussion...
  • When I first read the article, I missed that one kid was 14...was under the impression that they were both around 10...a 14 year old can join the workforce; they should be doing something else...still...the laws are in place to regulate businesses. Th hot dog stand analogy is valid if these kids set up outside a baseball stadium or in a downtown park (I don't know where they were)...but if they were in front of their house like 99% of lemonade stands are, I don't think its a fair one.


    I think what bugs me about the out-of-proportion reaction is that it's just more libertarian, government is running my life bullshit.

    There are rules and laws and kids aren't exempt from them. Yes, it's a bit silly to shut them down maybe, but the "oh my god the Gestapo is coming for your kids" hysteria is sillier.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    When I first read the article, I missed that one kid was 14...was under the impression that they were both around 10...a 14 year old can join the workforce; they should be doing something else...still...the laws are in place to regulate businesses. Th hot dog stand analogy is valid if these kids set up outside a baseball stadium or in a downtown park (I don't know where they were)...but if they were in front of their house like 99% of lemonade stands are, I don't think its a fair one.


    I think what bugs me about the out-of-proportion reaction is that it's just more libertarian, government is running my life bullshit.

    There are rules and laws and kids aren't exempt from them. Yes, it's a bit silly to shut them down maybe, but the "oh my god the Gestapo is coming for your kids" hysteria is sillier.
    I understand what you're saying...I agree, 'tyranny' is total hyperbole..I was expecting Alex Jones, not lemonade stands. :lol:
  • OH... "Tyranny."

    Sorry..

    I thought he was calling the cop a tranny.

    My bad.
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    Just more of the police state trying to get $.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    unreal what a bunch of bullshit...HIEL HITLER ! freaking A-holes and their gustapo rule.
    yes this story angers me...who fucks with kid ? come on !

    Godfather.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Tyranny is an officer enforcing the laws set fourth by a democratically elected assembly?

    Okay!

    Seriously, the story is stupid, discretion needs to be used sometimes.
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  • And it's these silly "who really cares" stories that are thrown at us one after another to distract us from the BIG stories like Congress making sure that corporations can continue to bankrupt the country and the war can go on and the oil companies can continue to poison our oceans.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Lemonade stands are as American as hotdogs and apple pie......Oh yeah I forget about the Americans that hate America......Let the parent raise there own kids.....why did this not happen thirty years ago but happens now? We used to go door to door selling tomatoes from my dads garden....never was asked to get a permit....this is about the government trying to control every aspect of our lives. It starts small so that people will not notice and blow it off as petty until it affects them.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    beware of the big bad gubmint.

    next thing you know it will be telling us when we can and can't go to the bathroom!

    shut it down!

    default on our debt! woot woot!!

    attica!! attica!!!


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    i'm sorry, but i really have bigger things to worry about in my life. none of my freedoms are being threatened, aside from the ones that have already been taken from me via the patriot act...and i am not even going to get into who demanded that one be passed....
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  • aerial wrote:
    this is about the government trying to control every aspect of our lives. It starts small so that people will not notice and blow it off as petty until it affects them.


    I agree 100% with that. Oddly enough.

    Much like your "Tyranny 2" tread where you only started to care about the tyranny of the Arizona government when a white person was arrested for doing something legal in public.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    aerial wrote:
    this is about the government trying to control every aspect of our lives. It starts small so that people will not notice and blow it off as petty until it affects them.


    I agree 100% with that. Oddly enough.

    Much like your "Tyranny 2" tread where you only started to care about the tyranny of the Arizona government when a white person was arrested for doing something legal in public.
    what people are forgetting it that this is a LOCAL issue with the local police and government. this has nothing to do with anything on the state or federal level. the local officials should handle this one on their own, or else the state will have to get involved and then more people will be claiming abuse by the "big gubmint" once it gets involved with results that some people support and some don't.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    aerial wrote:
    this is about the government trying to control every aspect of our lives. It starts small so that people will not notice and blow it off as petty until it affects them.


    I agree 100% with that. Oddly enough.

    Much like your "Tyranny 2" tread where you only started to care about the tyranny of the Arizona government when a white person was arrested for doing something legal in public.

    :roll:
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    none of my freedoms are being threatened, aside from the ones that have already been taken from me via the patriot act...and i am not even going to get into who demanded that one be passed....


    Nor mention who keeps voting for it.
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    One time when I was like 5 or 6 I made a lemonade stand.
    Didn't want to waste plastic cups so I went green and used glass ones and washed them instead.



    Apparently I made "soapy" lemonade.


    Police shoulda shut me down actually... Because I never hear the end of that god damn soapy lemonade story.
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  • aerial wrote:
    Lemonade stands are as American as hotdogs and apple pie......


    Um.

    Hotdogs originated in Germany.

    They were originally called dachshunds after the shape and colour of a small dog that's long and thin and kinda redish-beige. But Americans weren't able to spell it or pronounce it so the name "Hot Dog" was used by a food vendor who couldn't sell ice cream and cold drinks to baseball fans on cold days.

    And Lemonade is French. It comes from the word "limonade."

    The French word limonade, which originally meant an "unsweetened lemon-flavored water" or carbonated soda, has since come to mean "soft drink", regardless of flavor, in many countries.

    In the UK, the suffix '-ade' means a 'carbonated sweet soft drink'; hence limeade, orangeade, cherryade, etc. Brown lemonade exists in the Northern Ireland region of the UK.

    So I guess the idea of dumbing things down is American.







    Oh... but apple pie is all yours. You can have it.
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