Incubus - If Not Now, When? Your Thoughts?

circlesdowncirclesdown Posts: 308
edited July 2011 in Other Music
I've been waiting a long, long time for some new Incubi. Loved this band for a long time. It seems there are three kinds of listeners that like Incubus. There's the kind that insists on measuring everything against S.C.I.E.N.C.E., demanding they return to that sound, there's the kind that is a slight extension of the first, thinking that they were good through Morning View and the two albums since have been weak adult contemporary Maroon 5 crap, and then there are what seem to be only a few of those who are cool with and actually like the direction they have taken the past couple of albums. I myself am in this final group. I don't think their last two albums are as off-the-reservation as I've heard many claim, and I dig the pop sounding stuff as well as the hard rockin stuff.

Well I just listened to the new disc through all the way and then a little more. I feel about like I figured I would. Fortunately I was prepared for how literally off the reservation this one actually is, and I was ready to go along for the ride. I'll admit, a few of the tracks do not go down so smooth, and it may take several listens before I can get it. In some places there is no tangible rhythm or melody, no riff or structure. Mike is laying textures (I know that sounds kinda musice reviewer cliche, sorry, but that's is what he's doing) and is far in the background. There are a small handful of moments where the guitar actually stands out, and kinda like Incubus have always done, they pick the awkward note to land on rather than the one you expect, which can make the first few listens uncomfortable, but later you get used to it and you like it. Brandon's voice however sounds full, front-mixed, clear, strong and amazing. It's clearly leading everything else. He might as well have given the band his vocal tracks and told them to figure something out to go around it, cause it's done. Early standouts for me were Isadore, Defiance, In the Company of Wolves (another music writer cliche, the pink floyd comparison). Wolves will make for a nice, stoned groove during their live shows, and I like the single, Promises Promises. Switchblade was one that was difficut this first go-round, kinda like Pistola was. (I HATED a crow left of the murder for a good month and then fell in deep, lustful, filthy, dirty, love with it).

I fucking love Science, Make Yourself, and Morning View. Love Love Love. And I wouldn't suggest their later stuff is any better than their early stuff, but I'm totally cool with them not recreating those styles still and instead doing songs like Oil & Water, Diamonds & Coal, Love Hurts, Talk Shows on Mute, etc. For every song people say is "too poppy" there's a Rogues or Kiss to Send Us Off or Made For TV Movie that sounds as edgy and baddass as anything on Make Yourself. Give this new album time and it will grow, like a fungus, among us.
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  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,656
    Was a Huge fan of Make Yourself and Morning View. I liked Oil and Water, Talk Shows on Mute..Meglomaniac..etc. Thanks for the review..makes me want to catch the SB show this Friday..
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  • BIGDaddyWilBIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,069
    I listened to this album three times, straight through. All I can say that it's super mellow and smooth. Enjoyable. Good driving music, nothing like Make Yourself and their older stuff.
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  • unknownunknown Posts: 531
    Best Album of the Year! Huge props for Incubus for taking a chance and creating something
    totally different on this album. In the Company of Wolves is a masterpiece. The whole album is.
    A must buy.
  • anyone pre order it through iTunes? I want to hear Rebel Girls.
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  • Raineman311Raineman311 Posts: 127
    Lots of hate from this album, but I love it. The title track drew me in on first listen, Brandon's vocals in that song are stunning. Defiance, Thieves, In The Company of Wolves are the other standout tracks for me. I cant wait to see them at Mohegan in Sept. And here is Rebel Girls on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PR9nt66Vf4 which imo should have been on the album with Surface to Air.
  • circlesdowncirclesdown Posts: 308
    Loving it more and more with each listen. Brandon's voice is stronger than ever, especially in the first track, 'if not now when'. It odd how at first listen songs can sound so strange and different but after a few listens it sounds like a pretty straightforward song. It's growing on me.
  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    i heard adolescents on the radio and i'm really liking the direction they're going. the song got me excited to go buy the whole album
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  • Not sure how i feel about the album as a whole yet. I do however love ...Promises,Promises and Isadore thus far.
    Incredible melodies.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    been listening to this album for about 4 days straight now and i can't get enough of it.

    alot of hate surrounding this album and as mentioned above, alot of incubus fans can't let go of the sounds created on SCIENCE. we are not going to see incubus make another one of those, just as we will not see another VS or vitalogy from pearl jam.

    might have to do with incubus' younger fan base that can't come to terms with a band maturing?

    in the company of wolves might be the best song they have ever written. and i am really digging the orginal too.
  • I really loved the energy in Light Grenades, the album that really turned me onto them as a fan, aside from previous singles. I don't understand why people say it sounds poppy. Catchy, yes. But if Diamonds and Coal, Oil and Water, and Love Hurts are poppy, then they are seriously rocking poppy songs.

    That's why at first listen of this new album I thought "WTF?" Where's the energy?? But this album grows on you once you give it a chance. There is so much subtlety to every song, each song is like a small explosion instead of the big bang of some of their previous hits, but it's so mellow and cool. I love the title song, great!

    haha since I heard this album i've been scrawlling "If Not now,when?" everywhere at school, in my notes, on desks. Great way to look at life!
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,162
    Giving it a first listen as I type. Not bad ... although I'm not digging the song "Thieves". I don't want to listen to a song that demands I feel sorry for myself for being a W.M.A.

    Hey Incubus. When will you get yours? Well, you already got it when I paid $10 for your album. Now how about you lay out a few lines of cocaine, bust out the effects, and blow this motherfucker up!
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  • awilkinsawilkins Posts: 984
    Not sure I dig this one.
  • dr0ptheleashdr0ptheleash Posts: 1,264
    awilkins wrote:
    Not sure I dig this one.
    +1, tough to get through for me. Wish they still had any funk left in them.
  • my two favourites have always been make yourself and morning view, awesome albums. im not sure bout this one yet but ive only just got my hands on it so only listened to it twice so far, really diggin in the company of wolves at the moment though.but ye its gonna need another good few listens yet.
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  • boroff89boroff89 Posts: 786
    They're on a bad streak with me. Light Grenades never grew on me, and If Not Now, When looks like it will be the same. What a collosal waste of Jose Pasillas's talent. One of the best drummers on the planet, and they might as well have told him not to bother showing up to the recordings. I don't expect them to keep the same sound album after album. In fact, their growth from album to album has always been one of the things I treasure most about Incubus. Morning View and A Crow Left of the Murder were the incredible products of the band's refusal not to become stagnant. But with their two most recent albums, they've gone astray. I hope it is not permanent.
    It makes much more sense to live in the present tense.
  • unknownunknown Posts: 531
    Yeah, I don't really know what the thinking was on this album. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy parts of it,
    but all of the aggressiveness is gone. At least on light grenades they had some hard rock songs, like
    a kiss to send us off, rogues, etc. I agree that jose didn't get to showcase much, but even more
    dissapointing is the fact that guitarist mike einzinger isn't given the chance to showcase how he is
    one of the most creative guitarists in the world today.
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