Rupert Murdoch

shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
Can someone explain to me whats going on here? I tried to find an article but they are all reading like stereo instructions.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    shadowcast wrote:
    Can someone explain to me whats going on here? I tried to find an article but they are all reading like stereo instructions.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11195407
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    he has a lot of heat on him. here is an article i found.

    Murdoch hacking crisis deepens with war dead outcry

    http://news.yahoo.com/uk-soldiers-targe ... 37129.html

    LONDON (Reuters) - A scandal rocking Rupert Murdoch's media empire deepened on Thursday with claims his best-selling News of the World paper hacked the phones of relatives of British soldiers killed in action.

    Britain's military veterans' association broke off a deal to campaign with the paper on improving conditions for service families, signaling how far the scandal is alienating a core readership, already horrified by suggestions that journalists accessed the messages not only of celebrities and politicians, but also missing children and the relatives of bombing victims.

    The British Legion also said it may join major brands in pulling advertising from The Sun, which like its sister paper the News of the World mixes a diet of stories exposing scandal among the rich and famous with populist campaigning.

    The long-running saga has taken on dramatic new proportions this week and threatens to delay a planned multi-billion-dollar takeover by Murdoch's News Corp of news and entertainment broadcaster BSkyB.

    It has also raised fresh questions about the power the Australian-born Murdoch has wielded for 30 years over the British press, politicians -- including Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron -- and the police.

    "We have let one man have too far great a sway over our national life," said lawmaker Chris Bryant, who secured a debate in parliament on Wednesday in which politicians lined up to vent their fury at News of the World and its powerful proprietor.

    "No other country would allow one man to garner four national newspapers, the second-largest broadcaster, a monopoly on film rights and first-view movies."

    The government has already backed a deal for Murdoch's News Corp to buy out the 61 percent of pay-TV company BSkyB it does not already own, and says the two cases are not linked. But U.S. shares in News Corp fell over 5 percent on Wednesday, while shares in BSkyB also eased on fears the deal may delayed.

    "APPALLED AND HORRIFIED"

    News International said it would work with the Defense Ministry to investigate a report in the Daily Telegraph that the phone numbers of British soldiers were found in the files of a News of the World investigator jailed in 2007 for hacking.

    "If these allegations are true, we are absolutely appalled and horrified," the company said in a statement, echoing language it has used repeatedly as each new case has been brought to light in rival publications. It also noted that it had always been a strong supporter of Britain's armed forces.

    The British Legion said it could not campaign with the News of the World, Britain's biggest selling Sunday paper, on behalf of the families of soldiers "while it stands accused of preying on these same families in the lowest depths of their misery."

    It added: "The hacking allegations have shocked us to the core."

    Cameron has proposed inquiries into the newspaper and also into the wider issue of ethics in the cut-throat, and shrinking, news business. Arguments over privacy, free speech and the power of the press have already stirred heated debate this year.

    However, critics called Cameron's move to set up official inquiries a tactic to push the embarrassing affair far into the future. The precise form of those inquiries is still unclear.

    Labour opposition leader Ed Miliband has called for the BSkyB deal to be referred to the Competition Commission and said that Rebekah Brooks, a former editor and now Murdoch's most senior British newspaper executive, should quit.

    So far, Murdoch has said he will stand by Brooks, 43, who edited the paper from 2000 to 2003, when some of the gravest cases of phone hacking are alleged to have taken place. She is a regular guest of the prime minister, as well as having good relations with previous Labour leaders in power until last year.

    Senior politicians from all parties, including Cameron and Miliband, rubbed shoulders with Murdoch, Brooks and other News Corp executives at Murdoch's exclusive annual summer party last month, underlining the power his organization wields.

    Both Miliband and Cameron chose former News International employees as media advisers, although Cameron's choice of Andy Coulson, who succeeded Brooks as News of the World editor, has caused the prime minister the more obvious problems.

    Coulson quit the paper over the first hacking case in 2007 and went to work as Cameron's spokesman. He resigned from the prime minister's office in January as police reopened inquiries.

    WIDESPREAD OUTRAGE

    The scandal dominated front pages on Thursday, including at Murdoch's Times -- though the Sun devoted all but a few lines to allegations about the sex life of soccer star Rio Ferdinand.

    The main accusations are that journalists, or their hired investigators, took advantage of often limited security on mobile phone voicemail boxes to listen in to messages left for celebrities, politicians or people involved in major stories.

    Disclosure that the practice involved victims of crime came when police said a private detective working for the News of the World in 2002 hacked into messages left on the phone of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler while police were still looking for her.

    Mark Lewis, a lawyer for her parents, said other papers had also been involved in underhand practices to secure circulation-boosting stories, and said News of the World was "unlucky" because its investigator had kept copious notes -- in 2007, he and the paper's royal correspondent went to jail for hacking.

    Police are mining those notes kept by investigator Glenn Mulcaire for clues to possible other victims. The list of those named so far by rival publications also includes victims of the London suicide bombings of July 7, 2005, and the parents of 3-year-old Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in Portugal in 2007.

    Murdoch, the 80-year-old U.S.-based billionaire, kept a low profile at a conference in Sun Valley, Idaho. He did, however, issue a rare statement saying he found the allegations of hacking, and reports his journalists also bought information from police, "deplorable and unacceptable." He has named a senior News Corp executive to oversee an investigation.

    Analysts believe the global Murdoch empire, which includes Fox television and the Wall Street Journal in the United States as well as London's Times, can weather a storm of reproach from advertisers, readers and politicians in Britain -- though there were signs on Thursday of international ramifications.

    In Murdoch's native Australia, the leader of the Greens party said he wants the government to examine the ramifications on Australia of the phone hacking scandal.

    The secretary general of the Council of Europe, Thorbjorn Jagland, said it was concerned by allegations of breaches of privacy. He said: "Governments need to act resolutely to fight and to prevent violations of this fundamental right, whilst actively protecting and promoting freedom of speech."
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    News Of The World is shutting down.

    Then all employees that participated in it should be thrown in jail.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    WHat a bunch of scum bags. Especially the hacking of the missing girl Milly Dowler's phone.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    shadowcast wrote:
    WHat a bunch of scum bags. Especially the hacking of the missing girl Milly Dowler's phone.

    Then deleting voicemails once it was full, which gave her family hope that she was alive and checking her voicemail.
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    WHat a bunch of scum bags. Especially the hacking of the missing girl Milly Dowler's phone.

    Then deleting voicemails once it was full, which gave her family hope that she was alive and checking her voicemail.
    I know that is just terrible, seriously who does that?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    http://www.vanityfair.com/business/feat ... rld-201106

    long read but if you want to read about people at their absolute scummiest, here it is
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    shadowcast wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    WHat a bunch of scum bags. Especially the hacking of the missing girl Milly Dowler's phone.

    Then deleting voicemails once it was full, which gave her family hope that she was alive and checking her voicemail.
    I know that is just terrible, seriously who does that?

    The worst of the worst. I wish they could all be thrown in jail.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    at what point does freedom of the press suprecede an individual's (especially a private citizen and not a celebrity) right to privacy?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    edited July 2011
    The more I read into this the more I get pist off.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    I wish they shut down the paper for the right reason, but I have a feeling it was because they would never be able to find an advertiser or subscriber again.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.

    I think a lot of it has to do with US news readers having no idea what the "News of the World" paper is, but everyone knows Murdoch's name.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    the guy owns a ton of papers, i just hope that it was limited to "news of the world" only.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.
    Well he is only the biggest news paper owner in the world. So when one of his papers is in question especially of this magnitude he's gonna get the press. It would kind of be like if Steve Jobs/Apple Inc. were in trouble for stealing ideas.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.

    what's interesting about it...?

    where you familiar with "news of the world" before this horrible story...?

    personally, I would have thought it was one of those ragmags that prints stories about "monkey vampires is Bulgaria"
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.

    what's interesting about it...?

    where you familiar with "news of the world" before this horrible story...?

    personally, I would have thought it was one of those ragmags that prints stories about "monkey vampires is Bulgaria"
    It's interesting because the common person with passing knowledge of the story is going to assume that Murdoch was directly involved in the scandal.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.

    what's interesting about it...?

    where you familiar with "news of the world" before this horrible story...?

    personally, I would have thought it was one of those ragmags that prints stories about "monkey vampires is Bulgaria"
    It's interesting because the common person with passing knowledge of the story is going to assume that Murdoch was directly involved in the scandal.

    he may have been for all we know...
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Interesting to see how all the headlines (including this thread) covering the story mention "Murdoch" in their headlines with no mention of the newspaper's name.

    what's interesting about it...?

    where you familiar with "news of the world" before this horrible story...?

    personally, I would have thought it was one of those ragmags that prints stories about "monkey vampires is Bulgaria"
    It's interesting because the common person with passing knowledge of the story is going to assume that Murdoch was directly involved in the scandal.

    It's getting closer to the family than it was a couple days ago.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    It's getting closer to the family than it was a couple days ago.

    that fucker is directly tied into things that are at the very least asshole in nature and at the very worst evil ... :x
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    [Why the rush to close down the paper?] News of the World closes, innocent people lose their jobs and baby Murdoch and his management team continue with business as usual at another paper site.

    [What are they hiding?] The hackers were News Corp employees, not terrorists, not China, and, not North Korea, They knew who and what they were targeting, so what were they really after, another Dow Jones power play?

    The U.S. stated that in some cases ‘hacking’ would be treated as an ‘act of war’. What is our position when a citizen of the U.S. is caught hacking within another country? Could it become a case of treason?
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Murdoch is the world's most corrupt scumbag. He doesn't just own several newspapers, he own mass media in general, he owns so many stations and other media outlets. He is THE monopoly of the media world.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The 'News of The World' folds amid hacking scandal.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14070733

    Brilliant!

    Hopefully 'The Sun' will soon go the same way.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    looks like murdoch's son can be facing charges in the UK and the US.

    i am gonna predict now that no charges are brought here in the US...

    Rupert Murdoch’s son could be prosecuted by U.S.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/ ... ed-by-u-s/

    As the phone-hacking scandal involving Rupert Murdoch’s media empire widens, attention is increasingly being focused on his son, James Murdoch. The Guardian reported on Friday that the younger Murdoch, who has already admitted misleading Parliament, “could face criminal charges on both sides of the Atlantic.”

    James Murdoch is the deputy CEO of News Corp, the US company which owns the British company News International that allegedly paid police officers in the United Kingdom for information. This could make him liable to prosecution in the US under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, which prohibits American companies from bribing foreign officials.

    Current TV’s Keith Olbermann summarized the latest developments in the scandal before turning to Murdoch biographer Michael Wolff for commentary. Wolff began by saying that the elder Murdoch should really be out apologizing to everyone who has been harmed by his company’s actions, but “that’s not Rupert Murdoch.”

    “This is a company that’s all about — it’s about power,” Wolff explained. “You hurt me, you diss me, we smack you down.” He added, “These people will do anything.”

    “Is James Murdoch really at legal risk?” Olbermann asked.

    “I think it’s an exaggeration, somewhat,” Wolff replied, but he quickly noted, “Anything could happen now. … The unimaginable is now occurring.”

    “This is the snowball effect,” Wolff said, explaining that when it comes to Rupert Murdoch, “these politicians … in the UK have had to put up with this guy for a long time. He’s never been pleasant about it. He’s always extracted blood. So finally there’s an opportunity. ‘We can get rid of this guy.’”

    Wolff concluded by saying that we can expect “new revelations every day” as “more shoes drop.”
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    looks like murdoch's son can be facing charges in the UK and the US.

    i am gonna predict now that no charges are brought here in the US...

    Rupert Murdoch’s son could be prosecuted by U.S.

    I bet you're right. His 'ol man has so much power that charges against him won't happen.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jeanwah wrote:
    looks like murdoch's son can be facing charges in the UK and the US.

    i am gonna predict now that no charges are brought here in the US...

    Rupert Murdoch’s son could be prosecuted by U.S.

    I bet you're right. His 'ol man has so much power that charges against him won't happen.
    if you are rich, you can buy justice. plain and simple...

    murdoch's son will not only not be charged in the states, he will also walk free in any trial brought in the uk. you heard it here first, kiddos....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    This scandal has exposed Murdoch News Corporation for what it is, a 'MONOPOLY'. A monopoly that used its satellite holdings to break local, national, and international laws.

    This scandal has served as a wake-up call because you now have the UK, the USA and Australia seeking to breakup that 'monopoly'.

    Murdoch's biggest fear is that they'll make him divest his holdings just like they did with AT&T, because Murdoch is all about power and control, this would be a fate worst than jail. That's why Rupert, the big man himself, has flown to the UK.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Leave Rupert Murdoch alone, he's an old fella from my neck of the woods.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Murdoch gave up his Aussie citizenship back in ’85 just so he could buy a TV station in the U.S. With one phone call, Rupert closed down a major UK newspaper and put hundreds of innocent people out of work. You think good old Rudy wouldn’t twist the screws on Australia to keep his control and power in the media? So much for your down-under, homeboy, god save the queen loyalty !!!!
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    puremagic wrote:
    Murdoch gave up his Aussie citizenship back in ’85 just so he could buy a TV station in the U.S. With one phone call, Rupert closed down a major UK newspaper and put hundreds of innocent people out of work. You think good old Rudy wouldn’t twist the screws on Australia to keep his control and power in the media? So much for your down-under, homeboy, god save the queen loyalty !!!!

    You take that back! :lol:
    Obviously I wasn't being serious with my above post, take a chill pill :roll:
    Like I give a damn about this greedy guy, he apparently wants to charge people for accessing his news websites.
    And what are you talking about with ''god save the queen loyalty''?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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