a question for ron paul supporters

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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    311jj wrote:

    I hardly doubt he has any funding/support from the Koch brothers. And Fox News hardly likes him.

    I don't understand why there is all this backlash against him on this board. He is an honest politician who stands by his views and is consistent. He wants to bring all of the troops home and audit the fed. Those are two things I think most people here would agree. And that's his two biggest issues.

    Now you can disagree with him for a lot of his crazier ideas, but who else has the guts and honesty to say what they believe and stand by it. I'd like to hear what any other GOP candidate has to say about some of the things that Dr. Paul gets asked.


    Like Vinny said it is the (R) next to his name. Proof that most people here preach bipartisanship and voting for the best candidate, but then look away when the answer slaps them in the face.

    Liberals (classical or neo) really hold the key to this guy getting the Republican nomination. I said it in another thread, and I'll say it again-- Barack Obama has his party's nomination. Registered Democrats should switch parties for the primaries and vote for the Republican who is going to keep Obama most honest, especially in terms of foreign policy, Ron Paul. Even if liberals/Democrats cannot bring themselves to vote against their party in the national election, they owe it to themselves and everyone else to make sure that Barack isn't any lamer than any of the other lame ducks in presidential history. The best way to do that is to run Ron Paul against him.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brandon10 is a pretty liberal guy right?

    If you were to classify me...I guess it would be very liberal. And although I would disagree with many of Ron Paul's ideas, foreign policy is the issue at the top of my list. I also like Ron Paul because he doesn't bullshit when he says he is for personal freedoms.(compared to the other fakes in the GOP)
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    brandon10 wrote:
    I agree with a lot of things you post (prince of dorkness), but I think you are way off base here. It's almost as if you are lumping Ron Paul in with these others simply because he is republican?.

    No, of course not. I'm lumping him in because I think he's jus another Fox News Grenade-Thrower.

    I don't agree with all of Ron Paul's ideas, but I respect any politician who says they want to end all wars and bring all the troops home from all bases around the world.

    Meh.... I think he says those things so he won't get elected. A Republican who is against the war is going to be about as electable as an anti-gay Democrat in San Francisco.

    I don't think he's crazy. And I don't think Sarah Palin is stupid. I think they're both very sane and very smart and VERY much focused on making money, fame and a fan base who'll pay to hear them open their mouths and make noises. Any noises.
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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    brandon10 wrote:
    I agree with a lot of things you post (prince of dorkness), but I think you are way off base here. It's almost as if you are lumping Ron Paul in with these others simply because he is republican?.

    No, of course not. I'm lumping him in because I think he's jus another Fox News Grenade-Thrower.

    I don't agree with all of Ron Paul's ideas, but I respect any politician who says they want to end all wars and bring all the troops home from all bases around the world.

    Meh.... I think he says those things so he won't get elected. A Republican who is against the war is going to be about as electable as an anti-gay Democrat in San Francisco.

    I don't think he's crazy. And I don't think Sarah Palin is stupid. I think they're both very sane and very smart and VERY much focused on making money, fame and a fan base who'll pay to hear them open their mouths and make noises. Any noises.

    He is not a "Fox News grenade thrower". In fact Fox News continually bashes him from every angle possible.

    I guess I'm not as much of a cynic as you. I have seen Ron Paul in debates and interviews for quite a few years now. He has never wavered from certain positions. When someone continually says they are for certain things, I tend to believe them. He has not only said he wants to change the way American foreign policy operates, he has stated why he believes foreign policy needs changing. And I have always agreed with him 100%.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    brandon10 wrote:
    He is not a "Fox News grenade thrower". In fact Fox News continually bashes him from every angle possible.

    Well not in the same way that the Tea Party drum-beaters are, no. But He says things that I think are just to get him the "maverick radical" vote that would otherwise go to Ralph Nader.
    He has not only said he wants to change the way American foreign policy operates, he has stated why he believes foreign policy needs changing. And I have always agreed with him 100%.

    I'd have to see more of that. But... I'm willing to listen, anyway.
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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    I'd have to see more of that. But... I'm willing to listen, anyway.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0

    That is from 4 years ago.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    brandon10 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    I'd have to see more of that. But... I'm willing to listen, anyway.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0

    That is from 4 years ago.

    Oh if that were only even possible in the world we live in. But the US learned in the 40s that blessed isolation is something that ended with the invention of the airplane. We have to have a part in the world stage. I'm not saying we should go to war but I DO think it would better serve our interest to go and keep the peace.

    I just wonder if we're even capable of that.
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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    brandon10 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    I'd have to see more of that. But... I'm willing to listen, anyway.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0

    That is from 4 years ago.

    Another one for you

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLIMRC65WE
  • VINNY GOOMBA
    VINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,826
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    brandon10 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    I'd have to see more of that. But... I'm willing to listen, anyway.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0

    That is from 4 years ago.

    Oh if that were only even possible in the world we live in. But the US learned in the 40s that blessed isolation is something that ended with the invention of the airplane. We have to have a part in the world stage. I'm not saying we should go to war but I DO think it would better serve our interest to go and keep the peace.

    I just wonder if we're even capable of that.

    There's a huge difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. Isolation would mean not trading with other countries-- where non-interventionism promotes travel, business, and trade among nations because that helps keep peace among them, just like anyone that you personally do business with. The true isolationists are the ones who are waging war and sanctions on other countries, as well as funding both sides of a conflict.
  • butterjam
    butterjam Posts: 221
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

    Meh.... I think he says those things so he won't get elected. A Republican who is against the war is going to be about as electable as an anti-gay Democrat in San Francisco.

    I don't think he's crazy. And I don't think Sarah Palin is stupid. I think they're both very sane and very smart and VERY much focused on making money, fame and a fan base who'll pay to hear them open their mouths and make noises. Any noises.

    He says those things because he believes them. Again, he has not wavered on any of his stances. He's been wanting to audit the fed for decades.

    Who is paying Ron Paul to speak? To my knowledge, since he is a member of Congress he can't get paid. Before you go throwing out accusations, do some fact checking.

    Palin does get big money to speak, which is why she quit her job, among many other reasons.

    All of the legislation he has introduced is consistent with his message of liberty and freedom.
  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ&feature=relmfu
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    I'll tell you what. As of right now he is getting my vote as an Independent
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    for all you R.P. supporters here is a opportunity to get the word out...

    http://wonkette.com/448866/hope-and-cha ... of-storage

    http://ronpaulblimp.com/ronpaulblimp/

    :mrgreen:
  • butterjam
    butterjam Posts: 221
    Wilds wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ&feature=relmfu

    Wow. Its like Dr. Paul might know a thing or two about monetary policy. But maybe we should dismiss everything he says because he wants to legalize pot.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    311jj wrote:
    consistent with his message of liberty and freedom.


    Oh everybody says they believe in "Liberty and Freedom."

    But he supports DOMA. And sorry, that's not liberty or freedom for ME.

    Yeah, he's not crazy. That's a plus. I still won't vote for him.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    311jj wrote:
    consistent with his message of liberty and freedom.


    Oh everybody says they believe in "Liberty and Freedom."

    But he supports DOMA. And sorry, that's not liberty or freedom for ME.

    Yeah, he's not crazy. That's a plus. I still won't vote for him.
    yes, supporting DOMA automatically loses my vote...i can't vote in favor of discrimination, no matter what other policies of his i might possibly agree with.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    311jj wrote:
    consistent with his message of liberty and freedom.


    Oh everybody says they believe in "Liberty and Freedom."

    But he supports DOMA. And sorry, that's not liberty or freedom for ME.

    Yeah, he's not crazy. That's a plus. I still won't vote for him.
    yes, supporting DOMA automatically loses my vote...i can't vote in favor of discrimination, no matter what other policies of his i might possibly agree with.


    Would you vote for him in the republican primaries? Against the likes of Bachmann and Romney?
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yes, supporting DOMA automatically loses my vote...i can't vote in favor of discrimination, no matter what other policies of his i might possibly agree with.

    And his excuse for supporting DOMA is that "this is about state's liberty" or some noise like that.

    And the "whites only" water fountains, I guess, were the "states rights" as well. And let's not forget that his son is the guy who says that restaurants should have the "liberty" to have a "no blacks" policy.

    Must be nice that none of that "liberty" will ever touch him, will it?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    brandon10 wrote:

    Would you vote for him in the republican primaries? Against the likes of Bachmann and Romney?
    if i had to choose between paul, romney, and palin, and no challengers from the othe party were running i would vote for paul. unfortunately if anyone with a pulse ran against anyone in the gop for the general election i would either stay home or vote for the opposition. there is not a single republican in my lifetime who has held a high office that has made me ever consider another republican for the highest office in the land. i just disagree with the republican party mantra, and that is pretty much across the board on every single issue, both foreign and domestic....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    yes, supporting DOMA automatically loses my vote...i can't vote in favor of discrimination, no matter what other policies of his i might possibly agree with.

    And his excuse for supporting DOMA is that "this is about state's liberty" or some noise like that.

    And the "whites only" water fountains, I guess, were the "states rights" as well. And let's not forget that his son is the guy who says that restaurants should have the "liberty" to have a "no blacks" policy.

    Must be nice that none of that "liberty" will ever touch him, will it?
    this is not the 1960s. we have moved beyond this segregation bullshit. paul is an old man, and his beliefs will not resonate with the youth, who are actually engaged in the election process now, and they will be necessary to win the popular vote.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    brandon10 wrote:

    Would you vote for him in the republican primaries? Against the likes of Bachmann and Romney?
    if i had to choose between paul, romney, and palin, and no challengers from the othe party were running i would vote for paul.

    I'm with you there.

    If his kind of "liberty" won, I'd probably move back to Canada.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam

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