Have EV Crowds Really Been This Bad?
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As a first-time EV show-goer (Minneapolis on Saturday!), have the crowds really been this obnoxious? It seems there's a lot of talk about proposing rules to rid the shows of hecklers/drunks or a lot of complaining about the crowds...I'm getting a little worried.
So...on the whole, have EV crowds been really as obnoxious as they sound? I'm really excited for this show but am a little worried that some jackass yelling "play Freebird" (sorry Dimitri
) will ruin it for the rest of us.
PS The setlists so far have been incredible.
So...on the whole, have EV crowds been really as obnoxious as they sound? I'm really excited for this show but am a little worried that some jackass yelling "play Freebird" (sorry Dimitri
) will ruin it for the rest of us.PS The setlists so far have been incredible.
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I agree with this ^
Don't worry - just go to the show and enjoy YOURSELF. don't take notice of others and the crowd won't be that "bad".
I think it is ridiculous to say "don't take notice of others" when even Eddie Vedder calls them out sometimes. If someone in front of you gets up 20 times during the show, is talking in your ear the entire show, or blinding you with their cell phone it is impossible not to get annoyed. Sure you can choose your attitude about it, but you shouldn't have to strain to block out your surroundings when you paid $100 to get in the door.
These concerts are not rock concerts.
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Then, stuff you might not have noticed or thought twice about before begins to bother you.
Here's what I can tell you about the one EV solo show I went to: They are in smaller venues, and there's no backing band, so it is much, much quieter than a normal show.
That means two things: 1) Things you normally wouldn't hear, you hear;and 2) Some people who weren't hugged enough as children occasionally think they need to participate in the show by yelling things to Ed during song breaks ("Ed talked to me! I can die in peace! He told me to shut the fuck up, but he talked to me! Yaaaay!").
It can be a little disconcerting, for sure. But on the other hand, I think the problem is a bit overstated by people with sticks up their asses who would have been better off watching Water on the Road alone in their living room where nobody will bother them.
for the least they could possibly do
people who review shows and only talk about how bad the crowd was need to stay home :evil:
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As others said, just go and enjoy yourself and try not to think too much about it.
This is kinda dumb.
Its absolutely possible for someone to ruin the night for someone, even if the person is trying to ignore them.
Because you spend your night trying to ignore someone, rather than pay attention to someone.
For arguments sake, if someone came up and hit me in the face repeatedly, it would ruin my night. There is no way I can ignore that.
To a lesser extent, its impossible to ignore some poeple who are yelling constantly or talking constantly during the songs.
However, if you dont ask them to be quiet, or get an usher THAT is your fault.
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This is also accurate. It was way better than 2008, for Chicago anyway.
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yeah I understand that. In a small venue it becomes more apparent when people talk and whip their phones out and stuff. What I meant was it just seems people are fixating on it - when people shouldn't be and should care more about Eddie and stuff. Over 50% of the reviews coming in are about the crowds and like someone else said, it's making people more cautious before they go to the shows and so they are more prone to notice little things.
No matter where you are - whether it's a rock concert, a folk concert or whatever - you'll get people like that and there's nothing you can do about it. It's their choice if they want to talk, to yell things out, to get their phones out - I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. I know how annoying it is but I for one never notice because I am used to that at shows and so I just ignore the people around me.
Those people who are talking and yelling also paid $100 to get in too - you can't control other people and their actions, but you can control how you react and your own attitudes and you can DO YOUR BEST to ignore them and try not to get so affected by them.
I'd jump at the chance to see Eddie and when I do, I for one will not be paying attention to anyone else in the room.
Honestly, some people are just there for the music and dont care about the story ed is telling. I like those stories.
In 2008, i had a girl next to me talking on the cell phone during both the songs and during the stories. I turned to her, and said "Excuse me, I really want to hear the concert. Can you take that outside?"
She looked at me like I asked her to remove her clothes. She gave a typical, "ugh", but left. When she came back, she was quieter, but was bored during the show.
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How do you know she was bored? Were you watching her? I think that's what the folks mean when they say if you let folks bother you its your fault. Obviously, that's not referencing every conceivable thing someone might do. But, when you're noticing someone is bored, well... I think that speaks for itself.
I do hope they have all sorts of guidelines for me to follow next time I pay for a ticket and go to a concert. I assume the first one will be:
1) Make sure you identify the "real" fans and only do what they want you to do when they want you to do it.
Short of folks starting fights, it's pretty easy to ignore the rest if you're into the show. Someone passing by me to go out for whatever (bathroom? beer? Merch? I have no idea. I don't ask them. I let them pass as quickly as possible, so they can go do whatever it is they want to do, and I can get back to doing whatever it is I was doing - watching the show). I have no more right to that show than the person sitting next to me. As long as they don't punch me or puke in my ear, spend your evening however you'd like.
Concerts are both solitary and communal events to me. And seeing how others react to the music, surroundings, etc. is all part of it. And when I want to focus on the artist, I can do that, as well.
As someone said - if I want to avoid people, I can listen to a concert of my choice on my iPod and block out everyone and anything.
exactly. the whole "dont let it bother you" response makes no sense. that's like saying "let me punch you in the face, but dont let it hurt you, ok?"
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Shhhh, I am trying to read the thread...
my only reference point is the last gig in beantown. was ready for the worst, and it wasn't bad. i read the reviews here and apparently there was some mid concert scuffling, people getting tossed and such, but i saw none of it - pretty fixated on the show at hand. the lady behind me kept yelling "Tom Petty!", which only happened in between songs and became kindof a joke with our little group of fast friends. she just kept yelling it. i once turned to just see what inebriated species was making all that noise, and she was frighteningly HUGE! like lady wrestler huge, so i just gave her a wink and shaka, and said to the nice, much smaller lady next door "do you think she knows that's not Tom petty?" and she just smiled, shrugged and said "maybe not". my wife tugs my shirt and asks "did you ask her to pipe down?" and i said "absolutely not. did you see the size of her?i came to listen to ed, not wrestle a hammered 250 pound female tom petty fan" and then, right on cue, from behind, full throttle "TOM PETTY!!!"
good times. keep it up, THAT guy (girl).
i agree THAT guy needs his own snl skit.
i gotta boot where ed talks about a pj religion, where there's only one rule - don't be an asshole. could be the title of his next dvd.
also spoke in boston about people in general, that we need asshole people, just for reasonable, good-hearted folks to look at and and see and say "that's not how i wan't to act" personally, i could do without 'em, but whatever. TOM PETTY!
She was right next to me. i can look over when ed is grabbing a guitar to see her playing with her phone. its not that hard to look to the right for 3 seconds.
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Also, her being bored didnt bother me.
he talking incessantly on her cell phone while the concert was going on WAS bothering me.
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sorry
this.
or the 3rd kind: the annoying ones who bring babies or use their disabilities to try to get ed's attention