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he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
edited June 2011 in A Moving Train
Tired of seeing the "liberal" or "conservative" labels being spread around like peanut butter here.

These labels are usually used in lieu of talking about the merits of the ideas you're trying to communicate. If the ideas are so fragile that insults or labels are a better way to make an impression, you need new ideas. Politcal bias grows like an absess around people's forebrains eliminating any possibility of rational and objective thought processes.

Once we stop identifying with these labels and stop compartmentalizing others using these labels, I think we can start a serious dialogue in the US (and here on the AMT). It also allows us to not see everyone else as either "good" or "bad" depending on our self-granted label.

just an idea :D
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Oh, I'm a very proud angry liberal warrior and I don't care who knows it.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Oh, I'm a very proud angry liberal warrior and I don't care who knows it.
    Typical...
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    he still stands wrote:
    Tired of seeing the "liberal" or "conservative" labels being spread around like peanut butter here.

    These labels are usually used in lieu of talking about the merits of the ideas you're trying to communicate. If the ideas are so fragile that insults or labels are a better way to make an impression, you need new ideas. Politcal bias grows like an absess around people's forebrains eliminating any possibility of rational and objective thought processes.

    Once we stop identifying with these labels and stop compartmentalizing others using these labels, I think we can start a serious dialogue in the US (and here on the AMT). It also allows us to not see everyone else as either "good" or "bad" depending on our self-granted label.

    just an idea :D

    Couldn't agree more.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    I agree, he still stands. Firstly because, personally, I'm not big on labels anyway but secondly, because they are tossed around like so much confetti. The older I get the more conservative in someways and the more radical in others I become and the labels break down further. On the otherhand, I support someone like Prince of Dorkness proclaiming himself as a liberal warrior because he knows who he is and has strong convictions and, it should be noticed, his label here is a self-proclamation.
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  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    liberal/conservative/democrat/republican

    all need to go.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Oh, I'm a very proud angry liberal warrior and I don't care who knows it.

    ANGER is a liberal prerequisite.

    Think about it.... have you ever met a happy Liberal? They're always upset about something. They're always hating someone, while preaching peace and compassion.

    They even hate their own... look how they're treating Obama right now:


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... roots-par/
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57537.html
    http://renovomedia.com/news/radical-left-attacks-obama/
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Parachute wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Oh, I'm a very proud angry liberal warrior and I don't care who knows it.

    ANGER is a liberal prerequisite.

    Think about it.... have you ever met a happy Liberal? They're always upset about something. They're always hating someone, while preaching peace and compassion.

    They even hate their own... look how they're treating Obama right now:


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... roots-par/
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57537.html
    http://renovomedia.com/news/radical-left-attacks-obama/

    This couldn't be further from the truth, and what a way to knock the OP's idea in this thread.

    Labels are a crappy way to address anyone.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    I'm just a conscientious objector that enjoys Stallone movies.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Why is it just the conservatives that don't get even my sarcastic sense of humor?
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    we seem to be on separate teams when we use these labels... wouldn't it make more sense for us all to be on the same team and talk about strategies/game plans like adults?

    As it is, we seem to be trying to figure things out and trying to make ourselves happy by standing on each other's shoulders and kicking everyone else's teeth in.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Parachute wrote:
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.


    And where you're holding your meetings to speed up the process, I'm sure.
    I can't drive without Pearl Jam
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    he still stands wrote:
    we seem to be on separate teams when we use these labels... wouldn't it make more sense for us all to be on the same team and talk about strategies/game plans like adults?

    As it is, we seem to be trying to figure things out and trying to make ourselves happy by standing on each other's shoulders and kicking everyone else's teeth in.

    It's because everyone is too preoccupied with their own egos. Drop the ego preoccupation and all of sudden problems would get solved.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.


    And where you're holding your meetings to speed up the process, I'm sure.


    i take that to mean you hate the Constitution.

    Why do I feel like a chess player at a checkers tournament?
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Us and Them
    And after all we're only ordinary men
    Me, and you
    God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
    Forward he cried from the rear
    and the front rank died
    And the General sat, as the lines on the map
    moved from side to side
    Black and Blue
    And who knows which is which and who is who
    Up and Down
    And in the end it's only round and round and round
    Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
    the poster bearer cried
    Listen son, said the man with the gun
    There's room for you inside
    Down and Out
    It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
    With, without
    And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
    Get out of the way, it's a busy day
    And I've got things on my mind
    For want of the price of tea and a slice
    The old man died
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    Parachute wrote:
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.

    I agree.
    Bristow, VA (5/13/10)
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.

    I agree.

    labels are necessary so you can split and compartmentalize others into little boxes so you can store them away and never think about it again in detail, and more importantly, to protect the ego from the bewilderment of the all-encompassing mystery of everything and everyone.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    he still stands wrote:
    Us and Them
    And after all we're only ordinary men
    Me, and you
    God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
    Forward he cried from the rear
    and the front rank died
    And the General sat, as the lines on the map
    moved from side to side
    Black and Blue
    And who knows which is which and who is who
    Up and Down
    And in the end it's only round and round and round
    Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
    the poster bearer cried
    Listen son, said the man with the gun
    There's room for you inside
    Down and Out
    It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
    With, without
    And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
    Get out of the way, it's a busy day
    And I've got things on my mind
    For want of the price of tea and a slice
    The old man died

    Wondering if you wrote this?

    Not bad.... damn good actually.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    Parachute wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    Us and Them
    And after all we're only ordinary men
    Me, and you
    God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
    Forward he cried from the rear
    and the front rank died
    And the General sat, as the lines on the map
    moved from side to side
    Black and Blue
    And who knows which is which and who is who
    Up and Down
    And in the end it's only round and round and round
    Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
    the poster bearer cried
    Listen son, said the man with the gun
    There's room for you inside
    Down and Out
    It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
    With, without
    And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
    Get out of the way, it's a busy day
    And I've got things on my mind
    For want of the price of tea and a slice
    The old man died

    Wondering if you wrote this?

    Not bad.... damn good actually.

    I'm labeling you as someone with a good sense of humor, because if I didn't, this happy liberal would be sad.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,898
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    Us and Them
    And after all we're only ordinary men
    Me, and you
    God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
    Forward he cried from the rear
    and the front rank died
    And the General sat, as the lines on the map
    moved from side to side
    Black and Blue
    And who knows which is which and who is who
    Up and Down
    And in the end it's only round and round and round
    Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
    the poster bearer cried
    Listen son, said the man with the gun
    There's room for you inside
    Down and Out
    It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
    With, without
    And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
    Get out of the way, it's a busy day
    And I've got things on my mind
    For want of the price of tea and a slice
    The old man died

    Wondering if you wrote this?

    Not bad.... damn good actually.

    I'm labeling you as someone with a good sense of humor, because if I didn't, this happy liberal would be sad.

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Parachute wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    Us and Them
    And after all we're only ordinary men
    Me, and you
    God only knows it's not what we would choose to do
    Forward he cried from the rear
    and the front rank died
    And the General sat, as the lines on the map
    moved from side to side
    Black and Blue
    And who knows which is which and who is who
    Up and Down
    And in the end it's only round and round and round
    Haven't you heard it's a battle of words
    the poster bearer cried
    Listen son, said the man with the gun
    There's room for you inside
    Down and Out
    It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
    With, without
    And who'll deny that's what the fightings all about
    Get out of the way, it's a busy day
    And I've got things on my mind
    For want of the price of tea and a slice
    The old man died

    Wondering if you wrote this?

    Not bad.... damn good actually.

    You should hear it with music behind it. It's even better. It's lyrics from one of the greatest bands ever, off of one of the greatest and best-selling albums of all time. Strong hint: the song title is the first line.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    Mix red with white, Mr. Cramer?
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Although we often disagree, we all speak 1 common language:

    Sarcasm. ;)
  • pjfan021pjfan021 Posts: 684
    Parachute wrote:
    Labels are necessary so we Constitutionalists can keep track of who is destroying this country.

    no it's not....they all are..although i guess that label would then be politician.
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