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Ten Club Membership # Refresh

RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
edited April 2008 in The Porch
Would everyone be in favor of this so that way it eliminates all of the gaps in members that have expired. that way everyones number greatly improves and we would really get a true sense of where we really stand in the terms of seniority.

Obviously this is something that would only get done once every 5 years or so.
Member 164xxx

8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,891
    i would rather keep the number but just be told how many people within the 425k have dropped their membership.
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    Oz JammerOz Jammer Posts: 9,858
    Would everyone be in favor of this so that way it eliminates all of the gaps in members that have expired. that way everyones number greatly improves and we would really get a true sense of where we really stand in the terms of seniority.

    Obviously this is something that would only get done once every 5 years or so.

    I'd just prefer to be given a specific number of active members so I've got a rough idea of where I stand in the pecking order of the Ten Club society.
    A little bit of mystery never hurt anyone :)
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    RedMosquito02RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    This is a great idea and I've thought of it before, but this leaves WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much room for potential errors on the 10C end....and I think we all know quite a bit about the gang over there and their ability to even get a Christmas Single out to us before April....

    Think about all the calls/emails they would get from people, claiming/complaining that they think they got placed in the wrong number, etc.......

    They've got enough on their plate without dealing with this.....lets just keep it simple....

    Word?
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    MichaelMcKevinMichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    Would everyone be in favor of this so that way it eliminates all of the gaps in members that have expired. that way everyones number greatly improves and we would really get a true sense of where we really stand in the terms of seniority.

    Obviously this is something that would only get done once every 5 years or so.

    Either option would for for me... new 10c# or finding out how many have dropped out.

    The question is, do we get a new 10C# everytime someone lower than us drops out? Not very feasible, and if we don't it ruins the idea of the system.

    I think it would be cool to have a "rank" that they give us. Like "Your number is 397xxx out out of 425,000 and your rank is 4,955 out of 5,256."

    Anyone know how many active 10c members there are?
    Camden I '06, Camden II '06, Bonnaroo '08, Camden I '08, Camden II '08, Philly Spectrum II/III/IV '09, MSG I '10, MSG II '10, Made In America '12, Wrigley '13, Brooklyn II '13, Philly I '13, Philly II '13, ...
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    How about not changing our numbers but send out a X-Mas gift of letting us know our true place in seniority as it stands.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Either option would for for me... new 10c# or finding out how many have dropped out.

    The question is, do we get a new 10C# everytime someone lower than us drops out? Not very feasible, and if we don't it ruins the idea of the system.

    I think it would be cool to have a "rank" that they give us. Like "Your number is 397xxx out out of 425,000 and your rank is 4,955 out of 5,256."

    Anyone know how many active 10c members there are?

    I love that idea.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    Why not keep it simple....

    Try using bands.

    Tier 1 (x - 50,XXX)
    Tier 2 (50,xxx - 100,xxx)
    Tier 3 (100,xxx - 150,xxx)
    Tier 4 (150,xx - 200,xxx)
    etc...
    Keep updating this every other year...
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    they have enough problems as it is

    and with my luck theyd screw it up!

    It aint broke, dont fix it.
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    no chance,i like my very low number thanks.
    COYS!
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    it would be a long and tedious (i love that word) process

    let's not make it any harder guys

    let's hope for things like a Texas Tweet

    :D
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    it would be a long and tedious (i love that word) process

    let's not make it any harder guys

    let's hope for things like a Texas Tweet

    :D

    If they sent me an excel file with the current members' names and member number I could assign a new seq number to them in 5 minutes. The original numbers don't have to change, they could just give everyone an unofficial current rank # for where they stand in the fanclub as of that date.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    RedMosquito02RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    If they sent me an excel file with the current members' names and member number I could assign a new seq number to them in 5 minutes. The original numbers don't have to change, they could just give everyone an unofficial current rank # for where they stand in the fanclub as of that date.


    I think they should send that excel doc to me instead ; )

    I would be more than happy to do it for them......
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    I think they should send that excel doc to me instead ; )

    I would be more than happy to do it for them......

    Its just so easy you sort table by member number and then in access you assign a new field whose properties are AutoNumber ans woila you have a new order number that they could send to everyone but not change their orignal number.

    They could do this in 5 minutes and have a mass email out in 25 minutes.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Or even create a enter box on the main page where you enter your member number and hit enter. it then provides you of your current rank in the fan club.

    That wouldn't be hard for a programmer to do and would probably take a week or so.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    ozcharlieozcharlie Posts: 91
    it makes no difference, whether u keep yor current number or get a better number, u still have same amount of people before you....
    well you know the pendulum throws
    farther out to the one side, swinging
    has to sweep back the other way
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    RedMosquito02RedMosquito02 Posts: 2,560
    Thats a great idea, do you think they would take the time (5mins) to actually do this, though?

    Building a spreadsheet right now at work.....

    You're right, it could be done incredibly easily....
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,891
    ozcharlie wrote:
    it makes no difference, whether u keep yor current number or get a better number, u still have same amount of people before you....

    like i said in another thread... its about having a better idea of where you are going to sit the day of the show. everyone here knows that we wont magically jump in front of members who joined before us.
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Exactly! Now that the # is responsible for seniority seating it would be nice to know where you stack up and give each member a better idea of where they might sit. It's too easy to do and no ones number would change.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    gibbitsgibbits Posts: 500
    That wouldn't be hard for a programmer to do and would probably take a week or so.


    I wish you were my boss! This is a two hour job tops and even with that quote I built in padding - it's a simple SQL statement.
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    einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    jbalicki10 wrote:
    Why not keep it simple....

    Try using bands.

    Tier 1 (x - 50,XXX)
    Tier 2 (50,xxx - 100,xxx)
    Tier 3 (100,xxx - 150,xxx)
    Tier 4 (150,xx - 200,xxx)
    etc...
    Keep updating this every other year...

    that is too depressing...
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    gibbits wrote:
    I wish you were my boss! This is a two hour job tops and even with that quote I built in padding - it's a simple SQL statement.

    I was being a bit generous I guess. Hahahahaha Either way its something that could be done very simply and would make everyone happy. I don't think there is any member that wouldn't want a feature that would be on http://www.pearljam.com where their members could get their standing in the club any time they felt like checking hoping that they may move up a spot that month.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    kh65kh65 Posts: 946
    Get_Right wrote:
    they have enough problems as it is

    and with my luck theyd screw it up!

    It aint broke, dont fix it.

    totally agree. plus, we are getting older. i can't imagine remembering a new number every year.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    kh65 wrote:
    totally agree. plus, we are getting older. i can't imagine remembering a new number every year.


    Indeed. Already need an outlook reminder to renew every year.
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    Would everyone be in favor of this so that way it eliminates all of the gaps in members that have expired. that way everyones number greatly improves and we would really get a true sense of where we really stand in the terms of seniority.

    Obviously this is something that would only get done once every 5 years or so.


    I always wonder why the fans think they can try and change the fan club.
    Its there, its good enough, and they do what they want, just like anything else in society. Just becasue they are good to us doesnt mean they want our opinions, I think people get that confused alot, and in turn the club sometimes is rude. And I dont blame them.
    Some people have religion I have Pearl Jam.


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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    I always wonder why the fans think they can try and change the fan club.
    Its there, its good enough, and they do what they want, just like anything else in society. Just becasue they are good to us doesnt mean they want our opinions, I think people get that confused alot, and in turn the club sometimes is rude. And I dont blame them.

    Its a business now not just a fan club. they are always looking at improving their site. you make it seem like this is something they cant do and there isn't a new number to remember. You keep your number and you can check your real time seniority status on their site anytime you want, hell they can put it in your profile on the site instead.

    Yo make it seem like this process is complicated. I guarantee you everyone disagreeing would love to know their actual seniorty position after 16 years of people dropping out.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,148
    Would everyone be in favor of this so that way it eliminates all of the gaps in members that have expired. that way everyones number greatly improves and we would really get a true sense of where we really stand in the terms of seniority.

    Obviously this is something that would only get done once every 5 years or so.


    this sounds like math and i'm math phobic. maybe my 150000 will turn into 15000 or maybe if i round to the nearest.......
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    Its a business now not just a fan club. they are always looking at improving their site. you make it seem like this is something they cant do and there isn't a new number to remember. You keep your number and you can check your real time seniority status on their site anytime you want, hell they can put it in your profile on the site instead.

    Yo make it seem like this process is complicated. I guarantee you everyone disagreeing would love to know their actual seniorty position after 16 years of people dropping out.


    I do not care. So there is one. I am happy with my number (175xxx) and my seats. There will always be a bunch of people with better and a bunch with worse.

    Id rather they focused on getting us information a little bit quicker and fixing the servers for those big onsales. Especially when those zippos hit.
    :D
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    soxjamsoxjam Posts: 55
    whats the highest 10c number? i would guess and say 425xxx
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    jbalicki10jbalicki10 Posts: 517
    After looking at the seat tracker data collected (a small sample), I say the 50 percentile for senority is at 200,000. Therefore if your under 200,XXX , you have better seats than half the members. (Barring that you won the seat lottery)
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Get_Right wrote:
    I do not care. So there is one. I am happy with my number (175xxx) and my seats. There will always be a bunch of people with better and a bunch with worse.

    Id rather they focused on getting us information a little bit quicker and fixing the servers for those big onsales. Especially when those zippos hit.
    :D

    Its not a new number, its a different number you see in your profile when you log in. Your membership number doesn't change. Its something that can be done in 2 hours, Im sure the ordering and shipping problems are a little harder to get right.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

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